Official Vocals thread (READ OP FIRST)

[VT Evil Queen]

isn't Yoona better than Hyoyeon?

It's more HyoNa...they are like the same.

[VT Evil Queen]

I'm glad you put down TaeYeon has shown head voice and not uses it. Because honestly that was a mistake/she got lucky that she actually used Head Voice...

[Janny]

LOL

 

Sica's voice is pretty. <333 I actually get annoyed when people complain about her nasality and I'm like "Your bias is also very nasal, hell, Majority of people in Kpop are nasal" LOL

 

Well I don't hate her voice either. I actually like it sometimes. I don't know I think it depends on the effort she puts in?

 

 

Bitches be acting like Jessica is the only nasal KPOP idol, hell what makes her better than most is that she sometimes has the decency to get rid of it when she feels like it. 

Like Here

 

Exactly what I'm talking about. XD

 

 

(Common people I even own a Jessica IGAB Album I like her ok?)

 

hello~

 

i find kyu's singing beautiful. it touches my heart tbh. yeah he's not particularly lively on stage, but just closing my eyes and listening to him is enough to move me. kyu won the show a couple of times during his short time on is2 too, so even people that don't know him well can be moved by him. 

 

You've never met that many Kyuhyun biased people then~

 

/leaves

 

Well I guess I've met two that are now. :D

 

Opinions I guess, I can't seem to be moved by his voice except for that one song that is on the SM The Ballad album where he sings about his accident (I bawl every time). But apart from that one. >__< Like I said stuff like this is personal preference, you can't say for a fact that Kyuhyun doesn't deliver emotions well cause emotions are something very ambiguous, I just really never met a person who said they were moved by his singing up until now. Whenever I came across the topic with people most of them agreed about him being an outstanding vocalist but most of them also agreed to not being touched by his voice. So...yeah

 

 

Elly, I've met many Kyuhyun-biased people though, ELF was like my first Kpop-Fandom. Tho I admit I didn't talk about vocals with all of them. xD Please don't feel personally offended, I love Kyuhyun nevertheless. ;) I like his voice and I know he's a great vocalist, but his delivery of emotions just doesn't do it for me. Thus I love love LOVE him in upbeat songs but when it comes to ballads...meh. And I used to be a Kyuhyun-biased person myself, at one point in time so.   It's just that emotionally, Yesung does a lot more with my heartstrings. 

[Awielie]

If singing was just about hitting notes then I would declare Kyuhyun the best male singer in Kpop. Well he is the best vocalist probably,I know many people with actual knowledge about vocals think so, but for me he lacks emotion. Like. So much. He can sing ballads all amazingly all he wants I'm never touched :/ Which is why in SJ I still prefer Yesung over him. (Then again, unlike vocal techniques, delivery and reception of emotions is a question of personal preference, just like voices. But I've honestly never met a person that said Kyuhyun's singing MOVES them.)

 

That's because people seem to prefer singers who double over when reaching high notes and look like they struggle over effortless singing.

 

He moves me. His voice is enough, no theatrics needed.

[Janny]

That's because people seem to prefer singers who double over when reaching high notes and look like they struggle over effortless singing.

 

He moves me. His voice is enough, no theatrics needed.

 

Might be true about other people but not about me. It doesn't even move me when I don't even see him singing, in recordings and such. I don't think there are any visual theatrics in recordings...if visual theatrics is what you're talking about (not really sure).

 

It's okay though, me not being moved by is voice is subjective (and people really I can't really help it you can't FORCE emotions after all) and not a fact.

 

On a side-note, Onew's my bias and he's not really one of those singers that make big dramatic visual gestures when singing either (more than Kyuhyun probably but not really that much compared to others)... so yeah. 

[Elly]

 

 

Elly, I've met many Kyuhyun-biased people though, ELF was like my first Kpop-Fandom. Tho I admit I didn't talk about vocals with all of them. xD Please don't feel personally offended, I love Kyuhyun nevertheless. ;) I like his voice and I know he's a great vocalist, but his delivery of emotions just doesn't do it for me. Thus I love love LOVE him in upbeat songs but when it comes to ballads...meh. And I used to be a Kyuhyun-biased person myself, at one point in time so.   It's just that emotionally, Yesung does a lot more with my heartstrings. 

Oh I'm not offended, like at all, everyone is entitled to their opinions. A lot of people like Yesung's singing, myself included. I'm just shocked that you've never met someone who found him emotional, I can count on one hand the people I know that haven't been moved by him. (People who aren't fans included)  

[Janny]

Oh I'm not offended, like at all, everyone is entitled to their opinions. A lot of people like Yesung's singing, myself included. I'm just shocked that you've never met someone who found him emotional, I can count on one hand the people I know that haven't been moved by him. (People who aren't fans included)  

 

I have been tho...once. So you can't really add me to the list of people who have never been moved by him, cause once is not never. 

[AhMin]

I have no idea what a F#5 is (other than the key on my keyboard) but here you go

 

She only sung at 3:17 and 4:55

oh awk no F#5 </3

 

hello~

 

i find kyu's singing beautiful. it touches my heart tbh. yeah he's not particularly lively on stage, but just closing my eyes and listening to him is enough to move me. kyu won the show a couple of times during his short time on is2 too, so even people that don't know him well can be moved by him. 

You've never met that many Kyuhyun biased people then~

 

/leaves

OMG LOLOL "Hello~" LOLOL

u guise.

 

I'm glad you put down TaeYeon has shown head voice and not uses it. Because honestly that was a mistake/she got lucky that she actually used Head Voice...

When'd she use head voice?

That's because people seem to prefer singers who double over when reaching high notes and look like they struggle over effortless singing.

 

He moves me. His voice is enough, no theatrics needed.

BAM.

 

On the whole moving people thing, there are these guys in my college who are black and add runs to EVERYTHING they sing, which is somewhat musicianship, except when they are pitchy... I don't have the sensibility to add runs on right parts often, but I can... problem is... They define emotion as adding runs and making a song smooth and all sexy/R&B like, I define emotions as the dynamics put into a song.... I find it a bit annoying how they say I ain't adding emotion, when really it's subjective.

[Awielie]

Might be true about other people but not about me. It doesn't even move me when I don't even see him singing, in recordings and such. I don't think there are any visual theatrics in recordings...if visual theatrics is what you're talking about (not really sure).

 

It's okay though, me not being moved by is voice is subjective (and people really I can't really help it you can't FORCE emotions after all) and not a fact.

 

On a side-note, Onew's my bias and he's not really one of those singers that make big dramatic visual gestures when singing either (more than Kyuhyun probably but not really that much compared to others)... so yeah. 

 

Looking like they're on the verge of dying crying, exaggerated hand gestures. Y'know, things Yesung tends to do.

 

And I'm aware of it being subjective. I was just saying. 

 

PS: I believe we're derailing the thread orz. 

[Josias]

oh awk no F#5 </3

 

OMG LOLOL "Hello~" LOLOL

u guise.

 

When'd she use head voice?

BAM.

 

On the whole moving people thing, there are these guys in my college who are black and add runs to EVERYTHING they sing, which is somewhat musicianship, except when they are pitchy... I don't have the sensibility to add runs on right parts often, but I can... problem is... They define emotion as adding runs and making a song smooth and all sexy/R&B like, I define emotions as the dynamics put into a song.... I find it a bit annoying how they say I ain't adding emotion, when really it's subjective.

Too much Runs and riffs is just sloppy.

How you interpet and phrase a song is how you add emotion. Barbra Streisand doesn't really doo all the melismatic phrasing however the bitch can still get people teary-eyed.

[Samurai Soju]

I have been moved by Kyu's singing many times. His performance of First Impressions is one of my favs and when he sang Seven Years of Love at the Super Show and Infection...I can just go on. It's subjective how a song makes you feel and for me, I can feel it in his singing alone. I don't need to see strain or any of that stuff. I was never a Kpop fan, but he got me here and it was through his beautiful voice. It touches me.

[AhMin]

Too much Runs and riffs is just sloppy.

How you interpet and phrase a song is how you add emotion. Barbra Streisand doesn't really doo all the melismatic phrasing however the bitch can still get people teary-eyed.

Thanks...that's what I thought, it's just annoying how they go "You're not adding emotion. Add runs. Change the melody" it will sound artificial if I do it on cue.. 

[rinamy]

< first to admit massive Kyuhyun bias

 

Nonetheless:

 

Yesung - I love his voice, and yes you can hear the emotion very clearly which is moving etc, but he does it the way most rock/pop singers do which is not worry about technique and get that rasp, howl, whatever he thinks is appropriate for the song in his voice.  I appreciate the emotion but sometimes I wince when I hear him scraping on notes and thinking that's gotta be rough on his vocal chords.

 

Kyuhyun - golden voice, great technique.  His delivery is a lot more subtle than Yesung's and aside from using adlibs and occasionally crazy runs to show off he never veers off a technically proficient performance and relies on volume and change of tone to carry his emotion.  Is it a less emotional performance than Yesung's?  If you prefer Yesung's more obvious emotional display, then yes.  I personally like Kyu's better especially for ballads because I can't stand hearing people singing from their throats or straining for notes even if it's a better emotional delivery.

 

I do think Kyuhyun has an issue letting go on stage (less now than before) because he's still shy and super self-conscious regardless of how he's schooled himself to be more outgoing and vocal on variety shows.  Yesung is the better performer to watch (just not my ultimate cup of tea to listen to, I still enjoy him though)

 

IMO Kyuhyun is a singers' singer whereas Yesung is popular for everyone in general.

[DoraemoNobita]

I have no problem with emotional aspect of Kyuhyun's singing (i agree tho, he kinda lacks expression on stage).

 

My biggest concern about his singing is...his voice quality has changed? Call me crazy, but i feel his voice became more nasal and somewhat higher, compared to 3/4 years ago    But i feel it only happens in Korean songs, when he sings in Mandarin he sounds deeper and richer.

 

Am I the only one who thinks this way?

[rinamy]

I have no problem with emotional aspect of Kyuhyun's singing (i agree tho, he kinda lacks expression on stage).

 

My biggest concern about his singing is...his voice quality has changed? Call me crazy, but i feel his voice became more nasal and somewhat higher, compared to 3/4 years ago    But i feel it only happens in Korean songs, when he sings in Mandarin he sounds deeper and richer.

 

Am I the only one who thinks this way?

 

I haven't really done any comparisons with his recent singing versus old songs, but Kyuhyun has mentioned a couple of times in interviews that he finds it easier/preferable to sing in Mandarin because of how things are pronounced versus Korean, I wonder if that's made a difference for him?

[VT Evil Queen]

KyuHyun is not nasal. His soft palate is raised like all the time.

[VT Evil Queen]

I have no problem with emotional aspect of Kyuhyun's singing (i agree tho, he kinda lacks expression on stage).

 

My biggest concern about his singing is...his voice quality has changed? Call me crazy, but i feel his voice became more nasal and somewhat higher, compared to 3/4 years ago    But i feel it only happens in Korean songs, when he sings in Mandarin he sounds deeper and richer.

 

Am I the only one who thinks this way?

That actually isn't unheard of, some people as the age their singing voices may actually get higher. TaeYeon and Jessica's singing voices are actually brighter and lighter than they were before.

[Onehallyu#1NiceOppaKW]

Too much Runs and riffs is just sloppy.

How you interpet and phrase a song is how you add emotion. Barbra Streisand doesn't really doo all the melismatic phrasing however the bitch can still get people teary-eyed.

 

oh awk no F#5 </3

 

OMG LOLOL "Hello~" LOLOL

u guise.

 

When'd she use head voice?

BAM.

 

On the whole moving people thing, there are these guys in my college who are black and add runs to EVERYTHING they sing, which is somewhat musicianship, except when they are pitchy... I don't have the sensibility to add runs on right parts often, but I can... problem is... They define emotion as adding runs and making a song smooth and all sexy/R&B like, I define emotions as the dynamics put into a song.... I find it a bit annoying how they say I ain't adding emotion, when really it's subjective.

It is how you understand the song. If you can sing a song you can related to, it is easier to sing. If not for most people, they will try to paint a scenario in their mind and interpret the song. Usually understand how the song been written is important. The next thing is to act.  You can't just add emotion. It is a feel. Understand the song, feel it, and speak your own mind.

[DoraemoNobita]

KyuHyun is not nasal. His soft palate is raised like all the time.

 

Hmm okay, maybe "nasal" isn't the right word :p What i mean is his voice was more "crystal clear" and richer. Now, sometimes he sounds like he has stuffed nose (idk the better word lol) in belting notes, esp. in letters b,p,n,m.

 

Example: 2:28, 3:13

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wppx7y_ryrE

 

That actually isn't unheard of, some people as the age their singing voices may actually get higher. TaeYeon and Jessica's singing voices are actually brighter and lighter than they were before.

 

Park Hyo Shin too, right? I wonder why. I thought your voice gets deeper with age.

[Nanallena]

How did soshi do in their most recent ITNW Acapella?

[VT Evil Queen]

Hmm okay, maybe "nasal" isn't the right word :p What i mean is his voice was more "crystal clear" and richer. Now, sometimes he sounds like he has stuffed nose (idk the better word lol) in belting notes, esp. in letters b,p,n,m.

 

Example: 2:28, 3:13

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wppx7y_ryrE

 

 

Park Hyo Shin too, right? I wonder why. I thought your voice gets deeper with age.

Hun, that is because those are nasal sounds XD Go Bee,Pi,Mmm,Nnn and you'll feel vibrations near your nose XD It is impossible to do it without a nasal sound. 

 

Well, your talking voice and your singing voice are actually very different. It has to do with mixing and placing or something.

[DoraemoNobita]

Hun, that is because those are nasal sounds XD Go Bee,Pi,Mmm,Nnn and you'll feel vibrations near your nose XD It is impossible to do it without a nasal sound. 

 

Well, your talking voice and your singing voice are actually very different. It has to do with mixing and placing or something.

 

But...there are a lot of singers that sound less nasal than Kyu on those letters :D I think Kyuhyun himself sounded less nasal on those nasal letters a few years ago..that's why it becomes my issue.

[VT Evil Queen]

But...there are a lot of singers that sound less nasal than Kyu on those letters :D I think Kyuhyun himself sounded less nasal on those nasal letters a few years ago..that's why it becomes my issue.

Well, he isn't nasal as a technical fault, his soft palate is lifted 99% of the time. So technically speaking KyuHyun isn't nasal.

[Chungie]

Park Hyo Shin too, right? I wonder why. I thought your voice gets deeper with age.

Voice changes with age. But it's not fixed that it'll get deeper or lighter. Taeyeon and Sica's voice has gotten lighter since their debut. Whereas Jojo's voice became deeper.

[VT Evil Queen]

Age changes with age. But it's not fixed that it'll get deeper or lighter. Taeyeon and Sica's voice has gotten lighter since their debut. Whereas Jojo's voice became deeper.

FIX THAT