Messica 5,468 Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 Let me put it like this, everyone in 2ne1 is below SNSD's Sunny, Sunny is the last of mediocre female vocalist in KPOP anyone below her is Bad/Terrible/Horrendous. Everyone below her has terrible support,even worse stability than she does, and only note they have probably supported is a G4 which is nothing in the Soprano world. Jiyul! How would you rank SNSD 5 vocalists in these vocal categories Resonance Breath support Upper Chest register C5-G5 belts Head voice Fry/Lower Register Tessitura Falsetto Mixing You dont have to give a ranking in all of them if theyre too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elolery 7,286 Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 Who's vocals do you guys prefer? Bada or Ock Joohyun Ock Joohyun was really good in her musicals, but Bada's performances in IS2 really give insight. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=2AlZfh9UNJg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6c1GtQM_JMQ I prefer Bada, but since you guys are better at determining who is better, I wanted to ask you guys. I think we can only prefer voice, not vocals here. Although I'm pretty sure Ock Joo Hyun's vocals are better. Some even put her as 1 of the top 3 female korean vocalists. As for Bada, they've put her at around Eunji's level. Voice wise, I prefer Bada's. She proves that nasal is not always bad sounding. Sohyang's is still my favourite among the top vocalists. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chungie 1,215 Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 Honestly In that ranking, Hyorin shouldnt even be in top 5.Ailee, Bada and Ock Juyeon should be up there. I would keep Taeyyeon there as number 5 though (cos im biased). Raina shouldnt even be in top 10 cos Jessica and Gain are better than her, Heck I can believe Jessica isnt in that list. Bom, Gyuri and Taeyang shouldnt be in that list OMG. Luna and Sunye should be above Eunji. If niel is in that list, Taemin should too. the problems in this list is too damn high. Also, How does Sohyang compare to them two? Raina>Jessica>Gain. Anyway Bom, Gyuri and Taeyang should be in the last places. And Luna>Hyorin>Taeyeon. Sunye is more or less on Eunji's level or below. Sohyang>Every female in SK. Jiyul! How would you rank SNSD 5 vocalists in these vocal categories Resonance Breath support Upper Chest register C5-G5 belts Head voice Fry/Lower Register Tessitura Falsetto Mixing You dont have to give a ranking in all of them if theyre too much. Resonance: Only Taeyeon has achieved it. Support: Sica and Seo has shown support till C#5, so has Sunny. Fany has shown an alright C5. Belts and Upper chest register/mixing: Taeyeon>Sica>Seo. Fany and Sunny are kinda leveled. Head Voice: Sunny>Taeyeon. The others haven't shown a HV. Lower Register: Fany/Seo>Sica>Taeyeon>Sunny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Messica 5,468 Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 Raina>Jessica>Gain. Anyway Bom, Gyuri and Taeyang should be in the last places. And Luna>Hyorin>Taeyeon. Sunye is more or less on Eunji's level or below. Sohyang>Every female in SK. Resonance: Only Taeyeon has achieved it. Support: Sica and Seo has shown support till C#5, so has Sunny. Fany has shown an alright C5. Belts and Upper chest register/mixing: Taeyeon>Sica>Seo. Fany and Sunny are kinda leveled. Head Voice: Sunny>Taeyeon. The others haven't shown a HV. Lower Register: Fany/Seo>Sica>Taeyeon>Sunny. omg only taeyeon has acheived resonance? Give me an example Also if you were to replace a TTS member with Jessica, who would it be? How would Jessica fare if it was Taeyeon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chungie 1,215 Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 omg only taeyeon has acheived resonance? Give me an example Also if you were to replace a TTS member with Jessica, who would it be? How would Jessica fare if it was Taeyeon? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeuoE6aQFAw Many resonant notes. C5s from Lost in Love especially are her best belted notes. Tiffany. Taeyeon is miles ahead of Sica. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onehallyu#1NiceOppaKW 27,191 Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 Also, How does Sohyang compare to them two? It is not fair to compare Sohyang. Sohyang never do musical as I know, and she not interest in kpop market. She only like to do Christian song. Her voice is for the God. These I know from Star King. She did one oldie song which is not her strength. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aL8e2dWdPgc She cannot absorb the song. This is unlike her style when she do other covers. Or course, that clip is KBS Open Concerts, not the right audience. As for now Ock Jo Hyun and Bada are still better in kpop performance than Sohyang. Both of them are more versatile in voice and can cover far more kpop songs than Sohyang. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperRookie 68 Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 Honestly In that ranking, Hyorin shouldnt even be in top 5.Ailee, Bada and Ock Juyeon should be up there. I would keep Taeyyeon there as number 5 though (cos im biased). Raina shouldnt even be in top 10 cos Jessica and Gain are better than her, Heck I can believe Jessica isnt in that list. Bom, Gyuri and Taeyang shouldnt be in that list OMG. Luna and Sunye should be above Eunji. If niel is in that list, Taemin should too. the problems in this list is too damn high. Also, How does Sohyang compare to them two? Sohyang is far better than every female in Korea, here a video about her virtuosity and extreme vocals. lol ignore that kongwee, he doesn't know Sohyang well, he didn't even know she sang musical, OST and appeared on 'I am a singer' many times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chungie 1,215 Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 Watch this. It shows her technical prowess and her versatility. Sohyang is far better than any female in Korea, here is a video about her virtuosity and extreme vocals. lol ignore that kongwee, he doesn't know Sohyang well, he didn't even know she sang musical, OST and appeared on I am a singer show many times. Oops you posted it as well XD Haha xD And she does cover songs better than the original like Power of Love or My heart Will Go on etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elolery 7,286 Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 It is not fair to compare Sohyang. Sohyang never do musical as I know, and she not interest in kpop market. She only like to do Christian song. Her voice is for the God. These I know from Star King. She did one oldie song which is not her strength. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aL8e2dWdPgc She cannot absorb the song. This is unlike her style when she do other covers. Or course, that clip is KBS Open Concerts, not the right audience. As for now Ock Jo Hyun and Bada are still better in kpop performance than Sohyang. Both of them are more versatile in voice and can cover far more kpop songs than Sohyang. I don't think Bada and Ock Joo Hyun are classified under your usual kpop anymore. They can already join the group of older artists consisting of Kim Bum Soo, Lena Park, Sung Si Kyung etc. They both have done several musicals and they sing old songs (not kpop songs) in immortal song just like Sohyang sings old songs in "I Am A Singer" (And IMO Sohyang is def much better sounding). Sohyang's usage of her vocals in CCM is already suitable for musicals IMO, and her cover of "Goose's Dream" is good IMO too. Therefore, it all boils down to opinion again...and the youtube comments are mostly positive so... In case you didn't know, Sohyang has tried some kpop songs Edit: Ock Joo Hyun sang in I am A Singer instead, not IS2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperRookie 68 Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 Oops you posted it as well XD Haha xD And she does cover songs better than the original like Power of Love or My heart Will Go on etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Messica 5,468 Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeuoE6aQFAw Many resonant notes. C5s from Lost in Love especially are her best belted notes. Tiffany. Taeyeon is miles ahead of Sica. I would replaced seohyun though. But If you watch TWINKLE 9 (6) member version in their seoul concert, Jessica executed Taeyeon's last F#5 belt just as good as she did. Yes Taeyeon is much better, but could sica actually pull off her high notes in TTS songs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onehallyu#1NiceOppaKW 27,191 Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 I don't think Bada and Ock Joo Hyun are classified under your usual kpop anymore. They can already join the group of older artists consisting of Kim Bum Soo, Lena Park, Sung Si Kyung etc. They both have done several musicals and they sing old songs (not kpop songs) in immortal song just like Sohyang sings old songs in "I Am A Singer" (And IMO Sohyang is def much better sounding). Sohyang's usage of her vocals in CCM is already suitable for musicals IMO, and her cover of "Goose's Dream" is good IMO too. Therefore, it all boils down to opinion again...and the youtube comments are mostly positive so... In case you didn't know, Sohyang has tried some kpop songs Edit: Ock Joo Hyun sang in I am A Singer instead, not IS2 Unless Sohyang go for IS2 then I am able to judge. I love IS2 better than I am a Singer. IS2 you have to drive the audience like crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chungie 1,215 Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 I would replaced seohyun though. But If you watch TWINKLE 9 (6) member version in their seoul concert, Jessica executed Taeyeon's last belt just as good as she did. Yes Taeyeon is much better, but could sica actually pull off her high notes in TTS songs? Fany's larynx shoots up in C5s. Seo is better. And Sica's F#5 isn't as strained as Taeyeon's. But it's still bad. Both shouldn't try anything that high. I don't think Bada and Ock Joo Hyun are classified under your usual kpop anymore. They can already join the group of older artists consisting of Kim Bum Soo, Lena Park, Sung Si Kyung etc. They both have done several musicals and they sing old songs (not kpop songs) in immortal song just like Sohyang sings old songs in "I Am A Singer" (And IMO Sohyang is def much better sounding). Sohyang's usage of her vocals in CCM is already suitable for musicals IMO, and her cover of "Goose's Dream" is good IMO too. Therefore, it all boils down to opinion again...and the youtube comments are mostly positive so... In case you didn't know, Sohyang has tried some kpop songs Edit: Ock Joo Hyun sang in I am A Singer instead, not IS2 Yeah. Sohyang's A Goose's Dream is good. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elolery 7,286 Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 Unless Sohyang go for IS2 then I am able to judge. I love IS2 better than I am a Singer. IS2 you have to drive the audience like crazy. Lol, just a guess, but i'm think idol fans (who are generally crazier) would rather go to IS2 than "I Am A Singer 2" where idols are absent and the audience is more mature and prefer heart wrenching perfs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Messica 5,468 Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 Fany's larynx shoots up in C5s. Seo is better. And Sica's F#5 isn't as strained as Taeyeon's. But it's still bad. Both shouldn't try anything that high. Yeah. Sohyang's A Goose's Dream is good. Seohyun is only better because she doesnt get as nasal (she gets nasal sometimes) as Jessica. Jessica though is technically better. Seohyun cant even fake her F#5. Ive also heard that Jessica is the closest member to ever achieve resonance in upper chest register in SNSD other than Tiffany. Plus Jessica has better breathing support than Seohyun, and seohyun is still breathy as hell. Even Sunny's E flats and E's are better than Seohyuns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onehallyu#1NiceOppaKW 27,191 Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 Seohyun is only better because she doesnt get as nasal (she gets nasal sometimes) as Jessica. Jessica though is technically better. Seohyun cant even fake her F#5. Ive also heard that Jessica is the closest member to ever achieve resonance in upper chest register in SNSD other than Tiffany. Plus Jessica has better breathing support than Seohyun, and seohyun is still breathy as hell. Even Sunny's E flats and E's are better than Seohyuns. Some program analysis Sica signature dolphin sound and said she could be very good vocalist. In reality, but well.....she is sica. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akisame 3,880 Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 does exo k/m's vocalists beat shinee's? if you compare onew, taemin and jonghyun against chen, kyungsoo, baekhyun and _________? feel free to push this question back on ur list of "to answers" i know it's hard not to roll your eyes so far back and into your skull and into infinity. :( Taemin > Jonghyun > Onew/EXO ^It's a slim chance of people resonating in an offkey note. Pitch problems are also related to support, so I do not think they are gonna resonate. Demi Lovato resonated an A5 but it was offkey... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chungie 1,215 Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 Seohyun is only better because she doesnt get as nasal (she gets nasal sometimes) as Jessica. Jessica though is technically better. Seohyun cant even fake her F#5. Ive also heard that Jessica is the closest member to ever achieve resonance in upper chest register in SNSD other than Tiffany. Plus Jessica has better breathing support than Seohyun, and seohyun is still breathy as hell. Even Sunny's E flats and E's are better than Seohyuns. Seo is only a lil less nasal than Sica. And whoever told you Fany is closest to achieving resonance should be bashed on his head. Fany's larynx shoots up crazily in a minor B4, she has EXTREMELY LONG way to go until she achieves resonance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Messica 5,468 Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 Seo is only a lil less nasal than Sica. And whoever told you Fany is closest to achieving resonance should be bashed on his head. Fany's larynx shoots up crazily in a minor B4, she has EXTREMELY LONG way to go until she achieves resonance. oops i meant taeyeon. You should agree though, that if it is anyone who should achieve resonance after Taeyeon, its Jessica. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josias 369 Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 Ock Joo Hyun>>>Bada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chungie 1,215 Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 Where would Roy Kim rank amongst the male idols? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josias 369 Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 Can't really rank idols I don't know lol. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AlZfh9UNJg&feature=player_embedded I actually adore this performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onehallyu#1NiceOppaKW 27,191 Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AlZfh9UNJg&feature=player_embedded I actually adore this performance. That is Korean traditional folk song. She sing the favour out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josias 369 Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 I kinda figured because the way she is singing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elolery 7,286 Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 Guys, how would you rate Moon Myung Jin's vocals? He stepped into IS2 recently and his voice is oh so smooth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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