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what does that mean? a falsetto with good technique? or is it some other style?

it sounds so powerful (and clear)

I can't remember if I am mixing it up with another term, but it's a falsetto which is produced so it sounds like an head voice but isn't. It's mainly found amongst male opera singers.

 

this definitely isn't falsetto, its head voice because sometimes i can reach that note in head voice but its squeaky as fuck with 0 power lol, falsetto is breathy and lacks control

Men cannot produce head voices, but they can train themselves to produce falsettos that sound similar to head voice. Countertenors train for years to master their falsettos, it's absolutely not true to say falsetto is breathy and lacks control 100% of the time.

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men have no head voice? where did you hear this?

 

That is falsettone - NOT head voice. Unless one has been castrated, there is no possible way for that man to produce a head voice.

 

5 octaves*

 

Falsettone? 

YES, THAT IS IT!!

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Head voice is produced by the predominance of CT muscles activity in your vocals cords. However, males generally have thicker vocal cords (also female contraltos and some heavy-sounding mezzos), so when they're trying to produce a head voice, there will be AT muscles (responsible for chest voice production) involved in the production more, hence making the "head voice" they're trying to produce not as pure, but more mixed. This is why what they're producing can't be considered as "head voice", physiologically. It's more of a really predominant head mix. Though males with very light voices are able to produce the pure head voice. 

Countertenors, right?

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As a whole (not just vocal line), which male idol group has the strongest vocals? DB5K?

2AM.

 

 

Hi guys, last year I had come here to ask about male and female TOP10, you think changed?
 
They told me:
Ailee, Yeonji, Haeri, Lina, Jea, Hyorin, Taeyeon, Luna, Eunji and Dana. 
Kyuhyun, GO, Ryeowook, Changmin, Woohyun, Junsu, Sandeul, Yesung, Taemin, Jonghyun. 
 
I'd venture to say that Dia (Kiss&Cry) could enter the female, and Narsha (BEG) in place of Dana.
In the male, maybe Taemin (SHINee) should go out to the Chen (EXO-M), and Woohyun (INFINITE) go a little lower. What do you say? :D

 

We don't do rankings any more but Taemin is better than Chen.

 

Hey, I just read the About & Criteria in kpopvocalanalysis, when I saw Good vocalists' criteria, I compared it to Ailee's vocal analysis. Some of her criteria matches the Great vocalists' criteria, shouldn't she be rated as Good to Great vocalist? :/

She puts too much chest into her mix and the shaping of her vocal tract is less than desirable, so she's fine where she is.

 

I hope some vocal people here are not that biased when it comes to certain groups, and be objective about their flaws as well. 

 

also I don't think just having resonated once or twice means that person doesn't lack in other areas.... isn't consistency important too?

You obviously haven't read the OP.

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This is the second time I've seen you post a video with a caption about slayage since you told me that's not what the vocals thread is for. I'm not hating, but I feel a little confused, tbqh. 

Iirc, AhMin actually told you to stop talking about Lee Sun Hee every time that Sohyang was brought up because it was like you were persistently trying to undermine Sohyang.

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Ummm ... No, that's not what was said, like at all.

 

Go back through and look and you'll see that most of the LSH vids have no mention or reference to Sohyang in them. And, the last time Sohyang was brought up because LSH was, not the other way around.

 

I know you didn't reply to me, but your comment was just so far from the truth that I had to say something. :derp:

Erm, that's why I said "If I remember correctly" and even if I was wrong, Niki told me that is what she said to David anyway so it isn't "as far from the truth" as you'd like to think.

 

Oh, and from the moment you two have entered this thread you do persistently undermine Sohyang no matter what.

 

I really dislike being accused of being a liar. Like, it gets on my nerves in a very horrid manner. 

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I said it's far from the truth. It is.

 

I read the whole thing between them, including the PMs, which he showed me. Niki got upset because there was an instance of SH/LSH, but it started when someone brought up SH in comparison to LSH and not LSH in comparison to SH. If I remember correctly, Niki was irritated at the whole _______ is better than SH argument, not necessarily what started it.

 

No, most of our posts have nothing to do with SH whatsoever. After the initial argument, I don't know if I've even mentioned her, at least not in a negative way. He even stated that he enjoyed SH's energy and upper register. So, no, you've just got that notion in your head.

 

And, I'm not calling you a liar. I don't think you are.  I just think you're incredibly misinformed. :derp:

OK.

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Voice wise, do you guys like the main vocalists in SM that are trained/sound like yoo young jin compared to those who arent?

Like subjectively Im not that interested towards ChenBaekSoo. To me they leave a strong flavour of Yoo Young Jin. To me im really interested in the ones that dont. They sound more special to me like Onew, sungmin and Suho, and also KRY. They dont sound like him.

 

omg sounds pretty nice.

 

Is that a resonant F4 @ 2:12?

I Kyungsoo's voice, because it has it's own unique quality to it whilst Chen and Baekhyun are hard to differentiate (for me non-exo fan ears).

 

Well, at the beginning.

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can i just say YAAASSS to whoever revamped the vocal analysis blog, it looks soooo good.

especially the new collage of main vocalists for the banner (and jessica at the top omg)

and the new sidebar, with numbered categories so that it's easier to navitage? yesss

 

thanks guise *_*

yw

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I know you guys don't like reviewing non main/lead vocalists, but could you guys analyze this song? Is he weak-avg or better/worse?

http://youtu.be/zee2LNnzJwo

Thanks!

What is everyone so fascinated about? His technique is non-existent - one can hear the tension in his jaw in such a small amount of range, not to mention that the sound is practically coming out of his nose making power practically non-existent in his voice.

 

There is literally no support and he's flat and sharp throughout the song. His pitch is a mess. His singing is a mess. The transition into falsetto was laughable. 

 

I don't know what all of the fuss is about, maybe you guys are surprised that his rapping voice is not as monstrous as his vocal tone, but his singing not acceptable. I doubt he could ever have the ability to sing a song in tune.

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Wow! Completely agree with this comment! Which is why I can't wait to hear the live performance of it. I'm curious to know for how long he can stay in the center of the pitch, until his tone just disappears. 

Or how long he can keep-up that donkey-laugh vibrato <3

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Have you noticed? His donkey-laugh vibrato is extremely reminiscent of Sunny's caprino vibrato. If he continues to sing with an empty support, his caprino might surpass hers in a few years. 

What a major feat! His picture will be right next to the dictionary definition of "caprino vibrato" (that is, if he can beat Shakira's goat-gargle).

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