BAZISSINO 2,061 Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 that moment when a guy mixes a E5-Eb5-C#5 but you actually love it despite the notes being strained lol 2:35 the vibrato @ I love it woodam's F#4s don't sound that bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAZISSINO 2,061 Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 Are we out of skilled vocalists now? It seems like it has been a long time since a vocalist that could actually produce resonance or even just support well debuted... No one this year yet. For 2016, the best ones are probably the ones in NCT...which is from SM so I ain't surprised. Did I miss any female vocalists from 2016/2017 that could at least like...have proper support? Sent from my SM-G530H using OneHallyu mobile app i don't know for Females but for males there's Pentagon's Hui and jinho both average too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAZISSINO 2,061 Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 He was asked on the show about his range and he said he can go up to the 3 octave Mi-Fa. Click here to view the Tweet he hit F#5 from what i heard he showcased (C3 - F#5 ) 2 Octaves 2 notes and 2 semitones something like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAZISSINO 2,061 Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 IA but once the highs start coming, it is a bit much. Ahmin on Downpour: Jaehwan: His E4’s in the chorus sound fine, well supported. 1:00 falsetto transition was too airy. 1:02 1:04 many G#4’s, tight throat and a high larynx. 1:49 nobody had support in this portion. 2:13 C5 ~ A4, strained, pushed. 2:25 the G4 wasn’t bad. He's not gonna be ranked unless he debuts after Wanna One, but it'd depend on his consistency. HE's in wanna On until December 2018 ... and he's still free agent so, He's consistent his support is solid On F#4 he's at least average for sure it not like he just developed support Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAZISSINO 2,061 Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 Hi guys I'm a beginner casual singer so far but I'm still in high school so hopefully there's time. I have some knowledge of music since I have the equivalent of an undergraduate music certificate in Australia and I have some basic singing knowlege.I'm a countertenor( most likely mezzo Range) as well so what type of coach do you recommend I get if I enjoy kpop but want a classical technique and where should I start?? My vocal range without screaming is currently E3-F5( Im aware of the damaging strain so I don't go higher) but I feel most comfortable from G3-A4. I'll try linking a video of me singing when my voice gets better. You said you were a countertenor which i assume a lyric tenor from what you mentioned you haven't explored your low range E3 is not low even for a tenor i'm sure you can hit around A2 - D3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAZISSINO 2,061 Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 I shouldnt be answering but these are my two cents since i havent been here in a long long time. He has nice placement and support here. He's fine up to F#4. 0:43 to 0:52 C3 had some support, D4,E4s supported same as from 1:20 but the C3s arent bad. 1:47 E4 resonant. 2:00 nice mask placement on that E4. 2:03 to 2:07 those G4s had good placement but was pushed. 3:27 G4 'gok' is a little tight, after that is G4-F4-E4-G4 up to 3:30 which all had support including that G4 but it might be a little pushed, other than that it wasnt bad. Good placement altogether. 3:44-4:48 G4s were okay I think. F4 at 3:49 nice support and placement but that vibrato was wobbly. 3:54 D4 has small resonance in there I see you. 3:58-4:01 some resonance in that D4 too yass. 4:03 F4 supported. Sounds above average to me. He seems to be singing within his supported range, not going out of it. He might be able to do G#4s nicely if there was a video but with this performance he is above average to me if not above average-average. His pitch seems fine, but he tends to pull too much chest at times. He don't support G4s and the D4s you mentioned don't have resonance i don't think you know what a true resonance is 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAZISSINO 2,061 Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 Hey, hey, no need to be rude. We are all here to learn. Unfortunately, I can't stop and give it a listen to confirm or deny, but really no need to be rude. I'm not rude lol i said i don't think s/he know what resonance sound like and he's a tenor i don't expect him to resonate D4s 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAZISSINO 2,061 Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 I doubt ittttt, I sang in Head Voice for half my range for years so I developed some bad habits. Call me Heady Mcbreath. at least You sing in HEAD VOICE , some people have never experienced connection in the upper register LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAZISSINO 2,061 Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 I haven't listened to it yet but Imma just answer that. It's not that generally baritones prefer falsetto over head voice. If you hear someone produce falsetto instead of head voice, there's probably a chance they don't KNOW how to make a connected head voice. So it's not that baritones prefer to use falsetto, but it's likely that the ones you've heard so far can't make a connected head voice. Or even if he can, falsetto isn't a preference of a voice type. It's a preference to each person, no matter the voice type LOL. Hope that clears it up. still most baritones i heard can't connect into their head voice ... some baritones don't even explore that register or that high Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAZISSINO 2,061 Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 Would it be a technical flaw for me to barely produce any falsetto? I know myself only using head Voice is healthier but would having a falsetto make someone like more technically diverse or something?? even when you want to use some airy stylistic mariah vibes lol you can still train your head voice to sound a bit more airy for style ofc ... Personally, i can't produce falsetto and i don't want to even when i strain it tense pushed head voice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAZISSINO 2,061 Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 Well, there's plenty of tenors that can't connect to head voice. Idk if we should just generalize Baritones as people that are not keen to the upper register LOL. it seems like a preference to each person instead of just a voice type. sent from your mom. i was talking about my experience and people i heard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAZISSINO 2,061 Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 i cant believe im better than sungwoon.... i cant believe im better than sungwoon.... who said you were better than him lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAZISSINO 2,061 Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 i cant believe im better than sungwoon who said you were better than him lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAZISSINO 2,061 Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 It was opened tho. Somehow i hear chest resonance on those F4s and G4s it wasn't resonant just supported i heard more chesty notes from her it was just lightly mixed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAZISSINO 2,061 Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 I am sure with time they'll have some kind of improvement whether it be big or small lol. Hey, hey, hey, don't give SM that much credit lol SM is also the same company that let Krystal and LuHan be lead vocalist, and lets Tiffany get all the high notes. Also don't forget where EXO came from. Baekhyun used to have some major issues. why are u comparing luhan to baekhyun ,even with his pitch issue he debuted with resonance and chen and D.O had vocal training wayy before joining SM same for kyuhyun and junsu they had park sun joo training them at young age ( junsu since 8th grade ) taeyeon been coached by the one since she was a kid too etc at the end it up to the student how much he want to improve SK have famous vocal coaches and academies now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAZISSINO 2,061 Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 However, I wasn't comparing LuHan to BaekHyun at all. There was literally no comparison between them being made. I was simply pointing out that SM has put weak to average vocalist for their lead vocalist like LuHan and Krystal. The reason why I mentioned EXO and specifically BaekHyun was because the user was comparing NCT's vocal line to EXO's. And I just wanted to remind them that EXO's vocal line at the beginning was not at the level they are at today and Baekhyun was just used as an example as one that improved from the beginning until now. Therefore, if EXO improved...so can NCT... I really don't understand the point of your response at all. my response was not just for you sweetie :3 i just wanted to say SM havn't made the basics for some yeah NCT can improuve they young and have potential EXO improved after debuting but beakhchensoo debuted pretty AA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAZISSINO 2,061 Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 3:33 but this one does sound bad @ 3:16 lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVB4lYVjZwY yesung don't support that high Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAZISSINO 2,061 Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 Yeah even myself listening back to it that definitely doesn't sound very mezzo-like to me, but then the teachers who called me that were listening to me singing classical music, classical style. I'll let myself judge it again later, but at least to my current ears I'd be a full lyric soprano. And yeah I think the rushed feeling was because: this was the first song I sang in a 15-minute repertoire, I was being filmed, I was singing it acapella, and I was in front of an entire room of 13/14 year olds who I'd never met before watching me. And they were really watching me like I almost never saw a pair of eyes look away and that was terrifying to me lmao :P Essentially I was just very nervous. To be honest I sounded better in that clip than my mental picture of myself back then was, because as you said it was a lot of pushing by air pressure and I had practically no idea what mixing was. I kind of don't even understand how I managed to sound that good with all the things I was doing wrong tbh but maybe it was the fact that I didn't have too many pitch issues and I practiced it for a long time. And I actually am considering doing this over again now, if not for anything else than to just reassure myself that my pronunciation and diction aren't as inconsistent as well as generally cringe-inducing (at least to me) now. You instrument is light you Don't sound like a full soprano to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAZISSINO 2,061 Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 My voice is a lot heavier than it comes across in that clip - I'll be posting a new version of that at the end of this week hopefully though. Why how old was that clip? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAZISSINO 2,061 Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 Boiii how do you even get down to E2? I'm a tenor and I can only get down to a C3, mabye a B2 if I try really hard but I won't cause I want my voice to live to. If you experience a crack above F#4 then it's probably falsetto, cause when I use head my voice doesn't crack, it should feel like it goes on without much of a flip unless your mix is super chesty(at least for me that's what it feels like). Does your notes beyond your mix get more airy and sound kinda weak/frail? If so then it's falsetto cause Head Voice sounds pure and full .My range deteriorated so much omg, since I waved goodbye forever to my falsetto for health reasons and only use head voice now, it stops at F5. Send some singing clips!!! Many people here are music experts. cracking above F#4 don't necessarily mean falsetto it mean you're cords are not developed enough it could still be thine mix or undeveloped head voice ... head voice don't always sound full/supported or pure especially for guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAZISSINO 2,061 Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 I "might" be a lower tenor than you and I speak consistently from C4~F4 lol speaking voice isn't exactly the best determiner of anything really. Countertenor is still very much a male voice is what the thread concluded at last time we discussed it, so you speak around C4 - F4 it hard to believe i'm a tenor myself and i speak around F3 - B3 sometimes higher but F4 that too high i think you meant C3 - F3 , how old are you by the way ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAZISSINO 2,061 Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 I "might" be a lower tenor than you and I speak consistently from C4~F4 lol speaking voice isn't exactly the best determiner of anything really. Countertenor is still very much a male voice is what the thread concluded at last time we discussed it, so speaking voice plus your singing through a range of something like C3 ~ F4 , mixing , vocal weight determine it .... some tenors speak much lower than natural , some baribros speak higher too but speaking voice does help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAZISSINO 2,061 Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 (edited) from what i heard most of you guys are baribros lol only some are undeveloped tenors if you speak around the second octaves there a big chance you're a baritone Edited July 5, 2017 by BAZISSINO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAZISSINO 2,061 Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 Not necessarily. I am a tenor and I speak in the 2nd octave at times. Not really where my voice sits and is the most comfortable, but it does dip in there depending on inflection and whatnot. When people talk their voice really goes all over the place essentially. And I am by no means "under developed" yeah at times the natural speaking range of tenor is the 3rd octave i can't speak around G#2 - C3 it just not natural Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAZISSINO 2,061 Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 We really shouldn't be putting much emphasis on speaking voices because they can be deceptive. And like in the grand scheme of things it really isn't what determines voice i already said it not speaking voice alone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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