Official Vocals thread (READ OP FIRST)

[jaedimps]

3 hours ago, himi said:

new 127 content

 

 

Nothing much different from Taeil/Doyoung/Jaehyun but Jungwoo really surprised me. 0:11~0:51 he actually sounded like Doyoung here lol. 0:18 nice E4. He def supports those F4~F#4s after. 0:29 this one in particular. Based on this clip alone he actually sounds closer to average than a lot of W-A guys. If only he sound like this all the time lol

 

original vid

 

You weren't kidding he really kinda sounds like Doyoung here, too bad he isn't consistent with it...

[Tsukimono]

Does he support? There's a lot of Bb4's, but there's some consistency issues there and below that makes me unsure @1:04, 1:06, 1:19, 1:21, 4:01, 4:03 compared to @3:30, 3:32

I don't think the sustained notes were supported tho @2:44, 3:42, 4:50

 

Edited September 7, 2022 by Tsukimono

[noprinterjustfax]

So Hyolyn held her concert on 09/03 and 09/04 and they were both 3.5hrs long and it's was all live so I'm not really expecting a lot of GREAT moments but still, here are some clips. 

 

See Sea 2:50

Chitty Chitty Bang Bang, she has belts throughout the entire song + the F5 towards the end

Dally 2:28

 

Bae 2.48

 

[noprinterjustfax]

Ma Boy

Layin Low 0:42

 

 

[Guest]

kim jaehwan, from what i've read on this thread, he's A-AA, right?

[himi]

5 hours ago, nana_moon said:

kim jaehwan, from what i've read on this thread, he's A-AA, right?

yeah he should be A-AA with something like Eb3 - G4 down. There are a few G#4s there that carry some support

[Guest]

3 hours ago, himi said:

yeah he should be A-AA with something like Eb3 - G4 down. There are a few G#4s there that carry some support

I see, thank you! I’m curious what’s holding him back from advancing further/from improving since his Wanna One days? 

[namyuactivist]

does berry good vocal line (gowoon, taeha, seoyul) supports? hearing them live i think it's just shallow but i think gowoon is just average with taeha and seoyul possibly w-a

[BAZISSINO]

11 hours ago, himi said:

yeah he should be A-AA with something like Eb3 - G4 down. There are a few G#4s there that carry some support

Eb3 isn't his limit down there 

[Guest]

3 hours ago, BAZISSINO said:

Eb3 isn't his limit down there 

What is his lower limit?

[himi]

12 hours ago, BAZISSINO said:

Eb3 isn't his limit down there 

oh my bad then. i only focus on his mixed lol not so much on his lows

[caracalftw]

Is it safe to give Haewon a pass on the D5’s?

 

 

 

[ZRH23]

3 hours ago, caracalftw said:

Is it safe to give Haewon a pass on the D5’s?

 

 

 

The first clip had phrased Eb5s, they carried support. The second clip were D5 and C#5, both were nice. I mean yeah I'd give her a pass C#5/D5 at least. She can get a bit off up there if she's not focusing (which isn't that big of a deal but we need to wait for more).

[noprinterjustfax]

On 9/7/2022 at 6:02 PM, noprinterjustfax said:

So Hyolyn held her concert on 09/03 and 09/04 and they were both 3.5hrs long and it's was all live so I'm not really expecting a lot of GREAT moments but still, here are some clips. 

 

See Sea 2:50

Chitty Chitty Bang Bang, she has belts throughout the entire song + the F5 towards the end

Dally 2:28

 

Bae 2.48

 

 

On 9/7/2022 at 6:13 PM, noprinterjustfax said:

Ma Boy

Layin Low 0:42

 

 

Can anyone reply to this

[sergel]

I wonder what a current-day equivalent of a chart like this would look like?

 

Edited September 10, 2022 by sergel

[Guest]

1 hour ago, sergel said:

I wonder what a current-day equivalent of a chart like this would look like?

 

This chart seems wildly inaccurate though? Why are Xiumin and Chanyeol and Key in Average? Changmin being that high? Jaejoong that low? Yesung on par with Chen? Seungri is listed?? The girl group side is also inaccurate

Edited September 10, 2022 by nana_moon

[BAZISSINO]

4 hours ago, sergel said:

I wonder what a current-day equivalent of a chart like this would look like?

 

I honestly don't think the kpop stan world is ready for mixed genders all ranking like that ....I also hate the whole letters system that being speared in tiktok 

[sergel]

2 hours ago, BAZISSINO said:

I honestly don't think the kpop stan world is ready for mixed genders all ranking like that ....I also hate the whole letters system that being speared in tiktok 

How come you don’t like the letter system? It doesn’t seem too different and seems less confusing, though less descriptive.

[Tsukimono]

7 hours ago, sergel said:

I wonder what a current-day equivalent of a chart like this would look like?

 

Was Raina really that high? She has all 3 developed registers but there's some below her(Prime Yuju, Yerin, etc.), who have a better mix.

Bada also being that high?? Above Shannon and Haeri? 

 

Solji, Kei should be higher... was Solji on the mid/low AA or A-AA side back then? 

Wheein, Hwasa lower

Edited September 10, 2022 by Tsukimono

[himi]

some 4th gen male vocal update/showcase~

 

 

 

Out of everyone, Junho is the most surprising to me. He didn't strike me as higher than Weak during Produce/X1 but these clips sound quite close to average. Seems like he's stronger than Seungwoo

Sangyeon isn't as weak as the initial consensus was. More like W-A.

The TNX guy actually has some better clips with some nice G4~G#4 but I only discovered them after making the showcase so yeah expect some more updates of him in the future lol

Edited September 11, 2022 by himi

[galhadineas]

hey guys, I'd like to have your opinion on those C5s

it starts at @2:51 

imo they have the same "brassy" quality of Hyunyoung's C5 @2:25

 

[RATY]

4 hours ago, himi said:

some 4th gen male vocal update/showcase~

 

 

 

Out of everyone, Junho is the most surprising to me. He didn't strike me as higher than Weak during Produce/X1 but these clips sound quite close to average. Seems like he's stronger than Seungwoo , Junho is the most surprising to me. He didn't strike me as higher than Weak during Produce/X1 but these clips sound quite close to average. Seems like he's stronger than Seungwoo

Sangyeon isn't as weak as the initial consensus was. More like W-A.

The TNX guy actually has some better clips with some nice G4~G#4 but I only discovered them after making the showcase so yeah expect some more updates of him in the future lol

I hope you add Xdinary Heroes.

Jooyeon & Jungsu have potential, at least for the 4th gen standards. It seems that JYP's vocals are good in this generation.

 

[himi]

1 hour ago, RATY said:

I hope you add Xdinary Heroes.

Jooyeon & Jungsu have potential, at least for the 4th gen standards. It seems that JYP's vocals are good in this generation.

 

They're on my list ^^ 

[BAZISSINO]

11 hours ago, sergel said:

How come you don’t like the letter system? It doesn’t seem too different and seems less confusing, though less descriptive.

Nah definitely messier than the tiers system from what I've seen in tiktok (putting taeyeon is A in the same pedestal as Dia ,Luna,hyolyn, UJI ,Moontaek isn't really accurate) and I got ppl to stop using it in the few months I've been in tiktok

[sergel]

12 minutes ago, BAZISSINO said:

Nah definitely messier than the tiers system from what I've seen in tiktok (putting taeyeon is A in the same pedestal as Dia ,Luna,hyolyn, UJI ,Moontaek isn't really accurate) and I got ppl to stop using it in the few months I've been in tiktok

That part makes sense, though maybe more distinctions would help, though it doesn’t seem too different than Average, A to AA, Above Average, etc. I’ve seen lists using both, though peoples definition of what constitutes “average” seems to vary lol.