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56 minutes ago, BAZISSINO said:

she did as usual , once again the runs are sloppy .... i would actually pay money to hear her ,uji or aille cover this 

the hold this SONG had on me back then wasn't a joke 

What you mean with that "as usual"? Im not sure about her usual when it comes to F#5s... 

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4 hours ago, BAZISSINO said:

oh yeah the phrased F#5, well for me it doesn't get a pass it too pushed ( i meant the usual as her range around B4 ~Eb5 ) 

Are you kind of updated about her recent performances? Im curious to know if F5 is back in her supported range since they some of them are supported. 

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On 9/2/2022 at 11:23 PM, Tinastory16 said:

I came across this video of Nct Yuta singing, he sounds better here than in Nct songs (except towards the end where he sounds tight)

Any thoughts ? @himi@BAZISSINO@ZRH23

His E4 doesn't sound very bad here though nasality is decently present

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26 minutes ago, probee said:

Hello, just testing if am able to hear correctly, from their recent fan meeting. Lol.

3:13 -- Supported, the "jwo"?

2:48-3:03 -- Resonance or at least supported for the most part?

 

Yep, supported 'jwo' from Tiffany (B4 to A4 I think). 

The phrased D5 was opened and bright (I wouldn't use the term resonance in this moment but it was nice still). The E5 was not bad, one of the moments where she puts in more effort lol. It still got that slight high larynx to me, it didn't carry enough support imo but it was bright and decent enough. At least there's some alright moments from her at this event, I heard a few not very cute ones in other songs lmao. 

On 9/3/2022 at 6:51 PM, Renner said:

What do you guys think of Lyodra the Indonesia singer? I recall her having quite a messy chest pulling approach from the X-Factor or something of the sorts show but she has this annoyingly catchy power ballad rn and I think she sounds somewhat cleaner and more refined.

I'd personally say she's safely more than an just an Average. I like how her mid-range sounds here, head voice moments and C#5's carry support, but I recall from other performances she can still sound a bit rough or raw (like her chestiness & pushing compensates for her development) starting from Bb4's.

0:20 nice B4 and I'd say the D5 here carried support 0:50. I think she sounds like she's doing better compared to someone like Hwasa? let me all know what you guys think

Yeah, I guess she's more than Average but she's not very polished ngl. I like some of the B4s in the first song, but there were some with questionable placement like @2:46, plus that sloppy run. There's some moments where it gets into her nose too. @3:03, the best C#5 in the video, it carried support for that one and the placement isn't bad. But the other C#5s are meh. There's some support but she doesn't really keep the engagement strong and solid throughout. She's pushing here and there too. She doesn't keep the placement consistent too. I'm not liking her head voice tbh, it's airy all the way from B4ish lol. Even the F5ish area is a bit too thin for me to give a pass personally, it's closer to Eunji's attempts rather than a clean, supported head voice. The last F#5 was better but she didn't maintain the cord closure.

She was pushing those B4s and above for the Mariah cover, placement could be way better too tbh. A bit too on the throat. I wouldn't say the D5 was supported. 

I mean... Hwasa with all of her issues and whatnot wouldn't exactly be a high benchmark lmao. I suppose she's cleaner than Hwasa. But she's got some pretty consistent issues B4-C#5 and I wouldn't say head voice is much of an asset for her. Dunno if she's AA worthy tbh. 

On 9/3/2022 at 12:23 AM, Tinastory16 said:

I came across this video of Nct Yuta singing, he sounds better here than in Nct songs (except towards the end where he sounds tight)

Any thoughts ? @himi@BAZISSINO@ZRH23

I don't think he sounds that different from in NCT songs. Yuta still doesn't have the proper cords to carry that full breath support so while he's not tight or thin here, it's closer to shallow support for me. But he usually sounds like this I think 

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3 hours ago, ZRH23 said:

Yep, supported 'jwo' from Tiffany (B4 to A4 I think). 

The phrased D5 was opened and bright (I wouldn't use the term resonance in this moment but it was nice still). The E5 was not bad, one of the moments where she puts in more effort lol. It still got that slight high larynx to me, it didn't carry enough support imo but it was bright and decent enough. At least there's some alright moments from her at this event, I heard a few not very cute ones in other songs lmao

 

Can you please elaborate on that?

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3 hours ago, jaedimps said:

Can you please elaborate on that?

With her current approach, when Taeyeon doesn't put conscious effort to be fuller, she'll end up sounding tight and small. I heard that in the Kissing You, it wasn't great lmao.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnxPMtrRpTs

@2:53, I expected better even if she didn't properly focus. It's a very big contrast from how she sounds in her earlier years ngl, not necessarily for the better too in this case lmao. Even in the midrange @2:28. The tonality wise it's on the same level even compared to the others lmaoo. 

 

 

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11 hours ago, ZRH23 said:

Yep, supported 'jwo' from Tiffany (B4 to A4 I think). 

The phrased D5 was opened and bright (I wouldn't use the term resonance in this moment but it was nice still). The E5 was not bad, one of the moments where she puts in more effort lol. It still got that slight high larynx to me, it didn't carry enough support imo but it was bright and decent enough. At least there's some alright moments from her at this event, I heard a few not very cute ones in other songs lmao. 

Am not really that familiar with Tiffany's issue, but lately or it is just me, she's been doing better? Just adding and no idea if you've listened to Sunny, same-old problems but more chest engagement? Dunno what am I talking about. Any, thank you for answering.

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8 hours ago, ZRH23 said:

With her current approach, when Taeyeon doesn't put conscious effort to be fuller, she'll end up sounding tight and small. I heard that in the Kissing You, it wasn't great lmao.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnxPMtrRpTs

@2:53, I expected better even if she didn't properly focus. It's a very big contrast from how she sounds in her earlier years ngl, not necessarily for the better too in this case lmao. Even in the midrange @2:28. The tonality wise it's on the same level even compared to the others lmaoo. 

 

 

Yeah I agree that this wasn't good but she did fine here right?
2:35, 2:57, 3:01


And her iconic genie part also sounded pretty good imo
2:51
 

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Mainly a question for @ZRH23, but open for everyone ofc. Any thoughts on Bey’s vocals recently? She obviously doesn’t have the ease on the upper 5th octave like she used to, but how’s her general development? Renaissance was obviously a more experimental album and she was obviously trying to be much lighter but I think it was a good compromise because her voice sounds a lot less..constricted? 

 

Also, is Jojo still a mezzo? It could just be that she’s really good but her upper belts seem a bit too easy 💀

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15 hours ago, RATY said:

Is there Eb5 in here? I only hear C5 D5 F5.

Yeah there's only D5 there I meant in general since she's comeback she been showing better moments up d5/Eb5

 

6 hours ago, jaedimps said:

The D5 sounded pretty nice is it not supported? 

No it is supported my reflection was regarding your question if I would still put her in AA which is still the case 

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3 hours ago, RATY said:

Jooyeon (Xdinary Heroes ) show head voice . He seems to have potential.

I would agree there's potential but I wouldn't say support was present in that clip personally, it very unlikely to hear supported head voice anywhere near the lower tiers which is his case

( talking from experience with korean male vocalists ...you would need to climb up the AAs to begin hearing supported head voice )

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Nothing much different from Taeil/Doyoung/Jaehyun but Jungwoo really surprised me. 0:11~0:51 he actually sounded like Doyoung here lol. 0:18 nice E4. He def supports those F4~F#4s after. 0:29 this one in particular. Based on this clip alone he actually sounds closer to average than a lot of W-A guys. If only he sound like this all the time lol

 

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5 hours ago, BAZISSINO said:

Yeah there's only D5 there I meant in general since she's comeback she been showing better moments up d5/Eb5

 

No it is supported my reflection was regarding your question if I would still put her in AA which is still the case 

I don't know how consistent she is with this approach on d5s but if its consistent wouldn't she be placed higher? 
Maybe my ears are failing me but it doesn't sound like just bare minimum support it also has quite an open sound imo but I might be wrong... or does she have to resonate to be placed higher?

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