DoraemoNobita 65 Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Ock Joo Hyun: Luna: Is OJH much better than Luna in this perf? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akisame 3,880 Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Ock Joo Hyun: Luna: Is OJH much better than Luna in this perf? She slays Luna (I've seen both performances before) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chungie 1,215 Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 I see. But Minkyung plays a supportive role so I don't get how it hurts their performance. Makes sense Yeah but how does nasality matter during performances? I can't notice anything wrong with Minkyung's singing. Her performance level doesn't drop. Basically nasality means one is not open throated. Also Minkyung strains a lot. She's not bad nor mediocre. She's alright but her and Haeri has a huge difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onehallyu#1NiceOppaKW 27,191 Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Ock Joo Hyun: Luna: Is OJH much better than Luna in this perf? OJH is much more musical than Luna. She understand the song better than Luna. Yeah but how does nasality matter during performances? I can't notice anything wrong with Minkyung's singing. Her performance level doesn't drop. It is nasal, not nasality. Nasality you need to twitch your nose to sing. No pop singer will do that unless for a purpose. When you sing, you focus on the nose or nasal cavity, that nasal singing. Soyeon is the extreme of this type of singing for idols. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoraemoNobita 65 Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 (edited) @akisame: Thanks. How would you rate Luna's perf: OK, decent or good? ====================================================== About Park Bom's voice: You guys said that one of the Bom's weaknesses is her inability to connect her notes, right? But isn't it her selling point? I mean, the "staccato" thingy (idk the better word :p) makes her voice unique, lol. Edited August 12, 2013 by DoraemoNobita Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akisame 3,880 Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 @akisame: Thanks. How would you rate Luna's perf: OK, decent or good? ====================================================== About Park Bom's voice: You guys said that one of the Bom's weaknesses is her inability to connect her notes, right? But isn't it her selling point? I mean, the "staccato" thingy (idk the better word :p) makes her voice unique, lol. It was a nice decent performance, with some good moments. That isn't staccato, though. She literally cannot connect her notes together because of her shit breath support, her notes are splattered. Idc if it makes her unique. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abraa 1,118 Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Basically nasality means one is not open throated. Also Minkyung strains a lot. She's not bad nor mediocre. She's alright but her and Haeri has a huge difference. Hmm... but the question was how it affects the performance. She always sounds great, even if it's supposedly nasal. Luna probably did well vocally on that performance but it wasn't anything special anyway, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chungie 1,215 Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Hmm... but the question was how it affects the performance. She always sounds great, even if it's supposedly nasal. Luna probably did well vocally on that performance but it wasn't anything special anyway, IMO. Nasality is a technical fault, it means no resonance. Intentional nasality is okay. Unintentional is not. Nasality means the placement is not proper and it also means one is not fully open throated. It affects a performance's technical level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abraa 1,118 Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Nasality is a technical fault, it means no resonance. Intentional nasality is okay. Unintentional is not. Nasality means the placement is not proper and it also means one is not fully open throated. It affects a performance's technical level. But doesn't do much in terms of sound? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onehallyu#1NiceOppaKW 27,191 Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 This is one type of nasality singing, especially in the chorus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akisame 3,880 Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 But doesn't do much in terms of sound? Well, if Haeri is resonating, Minkyung will be drowned out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onehallyu#1NiceOppaKW 27,191 Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Well, if Haeri is resonating, Minkyung will be drowned out. Haeri do not drown out Minkyung, cos she don't belt in their song. Even she does, she will put off her mics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Crown 529 Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Haeri do not drown out Minkyung, cos she don't belt in their song. Even she does, she will put off her mics. Haeri will drown out MinKyung... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chungie 1,215 Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 But doesn't do much in terms of sound? Read the OP you'll understand the difference between an ideal tone and a nasal/not fully open throated tone. An ideally placed resonant vocal will always drown out the non-resonant sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onehallyu#1NiceOppaKW 27,191 Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 (edited) But doesn't do much in terms of sound? If you ever notice Haeri used a lot more effort than Minkyung in singing. Haeri will drown out MinKyung... Yes. If she want too. You know vocal is not about drowning out one and other. Edited August 12, 2013 by kongwee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Crown 529 Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 If you ever notice Haeri used a lot more effort than Minkyung in singing. Yes. If she want too. You know vocal is not about drowning out one and other. I know vocals ain't bout drowning each other out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onehallyu#1NiceOppaKW 27,191 Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 But doesn't do much in terms of sound? Nasal is not technical fault and not straining, and people are singing happily forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krunchii 409 Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 @akisame: Thanks. How would you rate Luna's perf: OK, decent or good? ====================================================== About Park Bom's voice: You guys said that one of the Bom's weaknesses is her inability to connect her notes, right? But isn't it her selling point? I mean, the "staccato" thingy (idk the better word :p) makes her voice unique, lol. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmtPg_XYA74 at 0:30 is staccato Bom is more like hiccups 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abraa 1,118 Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 (edited) Read the OP you'll understand the difference between an ideal tone and a nasal/not fully open throated tone. An ideally placed resonant vocal will always drown out the non-resonant sound. I did... so the only real difference is power? And that it can be more difficult to hit the right note if you sing nasally? I don't think I've ever noticed Minkyung missing a note... So as long as you know how to handle it nasality isn't and issue? Also why would you bash Sunny so much in the OP? She's a very good singer IMO. In my top 2 in SNSD... Note: not vocalist, but I'm sure she's not one of the worst there either... Edited August 12, 2013 by abra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
•Link• 301 Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 I did... so the only real difference is power? And that it can be more difficult to hit the right note if you sing nasally? I don't think I've ever noticed Minkyung missing a note... So as long as you know how to handle it nasality isn't and issue? Also why would you bash Sunny so much in the OP? She's a very good singer IMO. In my top 2 in SNSD... Note: not vocalist, but I'm sure she's not one of the worst there either... She is far from the worst lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onehallyu#1NiceOppaKW 27,191 Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 I did... so the only real difference is power? And that it can be more difficult to hit the right note if you sing nasally? I don't think I've ever noticed Minkyung missing a note... So as long as you know how to handle it nasality isn't and issue? Also why would you bash Sunny so much in the OP? She's a very good singer IMO. In my top 2 in SNSD... Note: not vocalist, but I'm sure she's not one of the worst there either... Sunny is other nasal singer. Her trot songs are good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abraa 1,118 Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Sunny is other nasal singer. Her trot songs are good! I think so too She is far from the worst lol. She was used as an example about everything wrong with nasality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onehallyu#1NiceOppaKW 27,191 Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 I think so too She was used as an example about everything wrong with nasality Asia embrace nasal singing and nasality too. Don't need to be sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
•Link• 301 Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 I think so too She was used as an example about everything wrong with nasality lol Don't worry, there are a lot of kpop idols who are really nasal. I'm pretty sure she isn't the worst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onehallyu#1NiceOppaKW 27,191 Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 lol Don't worry, there are a lot of kpop idols who are really nasal. I'm pretty sure she isn't the worst. People don't know nasal is loud enough for mic singing, and free a lot of body movement. That why you will see BoA use it most of her time in her complex dance movement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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