Official Vocals thread (READ OP FIRST)

[himi]

50 minutes ago, RATY said:

His G#4 is not very impressive to me and under G#4 he can show a good time but most of the issues are still there and I like it those C#3 sound good. The A4 in the clip sounds very pushed to me as he tries to susatained.

Oh! he's trying to emulate the opera, he still needs more precise muscle coordination but he's doing pretty well. 1.32 It sounds bad because he didn't do it with head voice just like the other clips, His muscles were still mixing.

 

Yeah he does have some questionable stylistic quirks like swallowing his tongue or being too gritty. Compared to other AA guys, his mix is definitely among the weaker ones but compared to the other A-AA guys I think he'd be above since he has shown some moments of openess on his G4/G#4. So without the lows and hv he'd be A-AA at best imo. And right those A4s are definitely pushed. I'd maybe give a pass on the first phrased ones. Support isn't ompletely lost there.  In general, G#4 seems to be his limit.

Edited July 23, 2022 by himi

[himi]

1 hour ago, luxuriouss86 said:

Jongho has the best vocals

 

He's not bad but most of these are just him straining in the 5th octaves. Just saying

Edited July 28, 2022 by himi

[himi]

Inseong is in the army but still slaying us some nice G4s. 

1:44, 3:47

 

He really loves this song for some reason. It's like his 20th times performing this lol-

[himi]

a new bg ATBO debuted a couple weeks ago and one of them, Yeonkyu, is likely to be in Average so far.

@10:58 singing starts. @11:06 @11:14 seems like he can carry support down to D3 ish. @11:19 F#4 a bit stuck into the nose but carry support. @11:35 E4. Couple of E4~F#4 throughout and seems like he can support those somewhat fine.
 

nothing much on their debut song... just that he could be into the nose sometimes lol. most notably on the pre chorus @0:43. some E4 @1:08 @1:13
 

not live but 0:56~1:06 couple of F4~G4 throughout. A bit tight on the G4s but F4 carried support. 1:26 F4

 

 

[himi]

1 hour ago, nana_moon said:

new Chan OST @himi

Oh I wasn't expecting an OST to sound like a club banger lol but I like it. The song slaps. 

Vocal wise there isn't much going on aside from the E3 @0:19 and the F#4 @2:00 but I do like his mid range here. He seems to put a little effort into sounding fuller there than usual (probably to match the song but it's nice)

[himi]

new 127 content

 

 

Nothing much different from Taeil/Doyoung/Jaehyun but Jungwoo really surprised me. 0:11~0:51 he actually sounded like Doyoung here lol. 0:18 nice E4. He def supports those F4~F#4s after. 0:29 this one in particular. Based on this clip alone he actually sounds closer to average than a lot of W-A guys. If only he sound like this all the time lol

 

original vid

 

Edited September 6, 2022 by himi

[himi]

5 hours ago, nana_moon said:

kim jaehwan, from what i've read on this thread, he's A-AA, right?

yeah he should be A-AA with something like Eb3 - G4 down. There are a few G#4s there that carry some support

[himi]

12 hours ago, BAZISSINO said:

Eb3 isn't his limit down there 

oh my bad then. i only focus on his mixed lol not so much on his lows

[himi]

some 4th gen male vocal update/showcase~

 

 

 

Out of everyone, Junho is the most surprising to me. He didn't strike me as higher than Weak during Produce/X1 but these clips sound quite close to average. Seems like he's stronger than Seungwoo

Sangyeon isn't as weak as the initial consensus was. More like W-A.

The TNX guy actually has some better clips with some nice G4~G#4 but I only discovered them after making the showcase so yeah expect some more updates of him in the future lol

Edited September 11, 2022 by himi

[himi]

1 hour ago, RATY said:

I hope you add Xdinary Heroes.

Jooyeon & Jungsu have potential, at least for the 4th gen standards. It seems that JYP's vocals are good in this generation.

 

They're on my list ^^ 

[himi]

Seokhwa from WEi seems to be average. Seems to be able to handle F#4 ish

2:24  C#4 - E4 - F#4 - F4. A couple of F4 throughout the chorus. 3:07 F#4 followed by pushy G#4. 3:46 F4s

damn 4th gen bg is packed with average guys lol. There are like 20 people in there now 

Edited September 13, 2022 by himi

[himi]

5 hours ago, whistledownnn said:

Nct 127 new comeback 

 

 

 

1:06 I love this G4~A4 glissando from Taeil

[himi]

1 hour ago, nana_moon said:

Seungwoo, Sungwoon and Minhyun are all Averages?? wait, really?? i was always under the impression that were all like W-A at best, or worse. especially since this video from Himi on the thread says Junho is W-A, and the strongest in X1?

so is Seungwoo actually stronger than him?

oops you're right Hweseung was on Season 2, I completely forgot about that. what about Woodam from that PD101?

 

33 minutes ago, ZRH23 said:

Ohhh Han Seungwoo lmao. Pretty sure the ‘seungwoo’ name is spelled the same either way, it’s the surname that’s different. Okay yeah, Han Seungwoo is W-A at most. I guess you could say Junho is stronger but that guy only has like, 2 occasions where he tried a bit more in his midrange but he’s still shallow above E4ish. 
 

I knew I wasn't trippin lol cuz I was so sure that Han Seungwoo is not average lmao. Understandable though I get mixed up with their names too sometimes ngl XD 

 

13 minutes ago, BAZISSINO said:

If it the same park woodam yeah he can support  he's way less thin and soft than the likes of nu'ests minhyun

I also checked out some of Woodam's stuff a while back and yeah seems like he should be average at the very least (oh look another 4th gen average lol smh)

 

He's a bit whiny in this one but E4s and some phrased F#4 in the chorus seem to be finely supported. 

 

A bit bolder approach here. 0:56 onwards E4~A4 seem promising

Edited September 18, 2022 by himi

[himi]

11 hours ago, nana_moon said:

I know Hyojin from ONF is A-AA but I was wondering....can anyone else in ONF support?

E-tion kinda does. I've heard some okay E4/F4-ish but he can be a bit shallow and stuck at times, especially when he sings quite softly.

@1:18 @2:02 there are a couple of E4/F4 in his lines

MK sounds very much like Haechan lol. J-us in that performance isn't bad. @1:58 @4:36 some E4/F4. But in some other clips I've heard, he can be too shallow 

 

I don't check listen to the other members out enough but that's what I remember when I was looking for Hyojin's stuff lol

Edited October 10, 2022 by himi

[himi]

just dropping this guy here who seems to have a really good potential

 

[himi]

1 hour ago, nana_moon said:

oh i love DKZ, i thought he was good :00 our first 4th gen boy group vocalist to be higher than Average that isn't Yonghoon or Hyojin?

also when is your friend Yeoun going to put Jooan from TAN on her tier ranking he's an Average too

yeah but Yonghoon and Hyojin are both arguably 3rd gen so Mingyu is technically the lol

Yeoun only includes those who she's sure I think. Give her time I guess  

[himi]

On 11/1/2022 at 9:37 AM, nana_moon said:

since we're finding a lot of Averages across boy groups, i'm curious about another 4th gen boy group, OnlyOneOf. they're from the same creative director as Loona, so i'm not expecting much:

they don't have a lot of live content and i'm not sure who would be the strongest since their main vocalist left. is there anyone who can support?

hmm they all sound pretty weak to me. i think i checked out their main vocalist before he left once and i don't recall anything noteworthy too unfortunately.

[himi]

1 hour ago, nana_moon said:

on the subject of 4th gen nugu groups, what about Kingdom? i think Dann is the main vocalist?

I checked him out a while ago and he supports but in this cover, it isn't cute. He sounds quite thin here. I've heard better

This one is a bit better. He can handle F4 ish. Most likely low average at best

[himi]

24 minutes ago, nana_moon said:

i was expecting him to be W-A honestly so low Average is better than i expected.

man, 4th gen is really bursting with Averages....

Oh i should clarify it's at his best and just an estimation. Cuz I also heard on another clip where he can be a bit too light and shallow for Average so yeah somewhere between W-A and low A lol. It depends on what his consistent sound is

Edited November 5, 2022 by himi

[himi]

On 7/4/2023 at 7:28 AM, jeong jaehyuns boyfriend said:

Are they really "average"? I mean, Zhang Hao for example supports consistently up to F4/F#4 and has a handful of supported moments on G4. He also has quite good pitch and his high notes beyond G4 more often than not don't sound very strained, just unsupported. 

Supporting F#4/G4 is VERY common for Average tenors so F4/F#4 isn't that impressive... Zhang Hao and Taerae are around mid Average

Edited July 8 by himi

[himi]

7 hours ago, exodus05 said:

if a male vocalist has G4/G#4 is he AAA?

Not necessarily. Supported range doesn't determine which tier a singer belongs

[himi]

5 hours ago, Tsukimono said:

So what's the minimum requirement for becoming Average as a tenor? I always thought it's typically F4/F#4 where they mostly support F4 and have moments on F#4

F4/F#4 seems alright for the bare minimum for Average tenors, as long as they are not shallow. It's just F#4/G4 is pretty common around upper half of Average tenors