Messica 5,468 Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 but... exclamations. LOL and honey... Taeyeon's F#5's are all better than the 2 ones from Listen and from whatever the Immortal Song song she sang was.. lol but the one in HYAMLC is definitely better than Taeyeon's.. OH yeah that one was actually not that bad, I like that one. bom wishes she could pull that F#5 like that . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Messica 5,468 Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 So you guys were pointing out about being a goof vocalist without having to belt high notes. I would like to expire and learn more about this. Could you guys show me a video or give a me a good vocalist who doesn't belt frequently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danny. 762 Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 Alright so I've seen the term resonance thrown around a lot when referencing a good vocalist, but I'm just wondering, how important is it really? I mean, which is better, to achieve resonance a handful of times or to be consistently healthy/supported when singing most of the time? Is it a huge factor is determining how good a vocalist someone is technically? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AhMin 5,245 Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 Alright so I've seen the term resonance thrown around a lot when referencing a good vocalist, but I'm just wondering, how important is it really? I mean, which is better, to achieve resonance a handful of times or to be consistently healthy/supported when singing most of the time? Is it a huge factor is determining how good a vocalist someone is technically? It's one important factor, resonance is the ideal sound one should look for when trying to sing. A resonant note, resonance, resonant phrases, all of that means you're singing in a healthy way and you're supported, but above that, you're also projecting, using good placement and producing the best sound one can produce. A resonant sound means there's no tension, it's free, it's projected, it's well placed, it's well supported and it sounds good, with good tonality. Other factors to consider however are intonation and stability, as well as consistency. One may resonate but not after, or how stable ones pitch is. I mean great you're resonant, but if your note is flat then it's not really that effective. Sure you're resonant, but you can't really sing a line in key or you can't hold a line for long, meh, idek how you resonated in the first place. lol Or consistency, how often you're healthy and resonant, I mean hey Demi Lovato resonated A5, she's amazing therefore? Not really, cuz on the same performance she tended up on a C#5, that's inconsistent, not to mention the A5 was off key as far as I've been told LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rouga 414 Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 Do you know any dramatic contralto? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfadik 49 Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 how would you rank the beast/b2st members after yoseob? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kawaiiderpz 75 Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 (edited) EXO was supposed to have 13 members. BUT one left before debut. His name is Kevin Shin. http://www.gokpop.com/news/sm-entertainment-former-trainees::10600.html Edited August 10, 2013 by kawaiiderpz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akisame 3,880 Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 how would you rank the beast/b2st members after yoseob? Yoseob >>> Hyunseung > Gikwang/Doojoon(?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♥SNS-Shinomiya♥ 420 Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 (edited) okay so I have a question really quick. Aside from the intonation issues, Sooyoung's voice is rather shaky is that just style or is a lack of good support? Edited August 10, 2013 by Monotrack20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Crown 529 Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 okay so I have a question really quick. Aside from the intonation issues, Sooyoung's voice is rather shaky is that just style or is a lack of good support? she don't really have good stability that's why she's shaky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akisame 3,880 Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 okay so I have a question really quick. Aside from the intonation issues, Sooyoung's voice is rather shaky is that just style or is a lack of good support? She lacks the proper breath support for her voice to be stable, that's why she sounds shaky. This is also the reason why Sooyoung sings underpitch a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♥SNS-Shinomiya♥ 420 Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 She lacks the proper breath support for her voice to be stable, that's why she sounds shaky. This is also the reason why Sooyoung sings underpitch a lot. she don't really have good stability that's why she's shaky thanks. I heard her singing and thought she sounded a lot better than before but I was kinda thrown off by how shaky her voice was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akisame 3,880 Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 thanks. I heard her singing and thought she sounded a lot better than before but I was kinda thrown off by how shaky her voice was. Well, she has improved, she's not as bad as she used to be, but she's still bad. She's basically struggling to push the air out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♥SNS-Shinomiya♥ 420 Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 Well, she has improved, she's not as bad as she used to be, but she's still bad. She's basically struggling to push the air out. the belt was kinda nice though lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akisame 3,880 Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 the belt was kinda nice though lol It was pretty bad, though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moralar 21 Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 Does/did Ailee have a vocal coach in Korea? She seems clearly better than she was in her predebut videos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akisame 3,880 Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 Does/did Ailee have a vocal coach in Korea? She seems clearly better than she was in her predebut videos. I heard that Wheesung trained her, but I'm not too sure about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onehallyu#1NiceOppaKW 27,191 Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 So you guys were pointing out about being a goof vocalist without having to belt high notes. I would like to expire and learn more about this. Could you guys show me a video or give a me a good vocalist who doesn't belt frequently. "Belting" isn't required at all times, and depend on song. The thing about resonance is not alway you need to do that through a song. "Belting" and "resonance" are loud projection technique. There are many vocalist do not required to do that and depend on song. Do you think you need to have loud projection on soft,sweet ballad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes.anhxtanh 0 Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 (edited) Can you guys rank sm artists against each other ( Sorry because there are too many people ) or maybe just snsd , super junior, shinee, dbsk , f(x )( still too many > < ) Edited August 10, 2013 by Holmes.anhxtanh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akisame 3,880 Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 Can you guys rank sm artists ( Sorry because there are too many people ) or maybe just snsd , super junior, shinee, dbsk ( still too many > < ) You want us to rank them within their individual groups or against each other? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes.anhxtanh 0 Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 You want us to rank them within their individual groups or against each other? against each other Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danny. 762 Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 It's one important factor, resonance is the ideal sound one should look for when trying to sing. A resonant note, resonance, resonant phrases, all of that means you're singing in a healthy way and you're supported, but above that, you're also projecting, using good placement and producing the best sound one can produce. A resonant sound means there's no tension, it's free, it's projected, it's well placed, it's well supported and it sounds good, with good tonality. Other factors to consider however are intonation and stability, as well as consistency. One may resonate but not after, or how stable ones pitch is. I mean great you're resonant, but if your note is flat then it's not really that effective. Sure you're resonant, but you can't really sing a line in key or you can't hold a line for long, meh, idek how you resonated in the first place. lol Or consistency, how often you're healthy and resonant, I mean hey Demi Lovato resonated A5, she's amazing therefore? Not really, cuz on the same performance she tended up on a C#5, that's inconsistent, not to mention the A5 was off key as far as I've been told LOL Oh, I see, I see~ It seems like there are a lot of things to consider when judging someone's ability. So what I understand is that resonance is not everything, especially if it's very fluky. Is this right? Would it be just better to be consistently 'okay'/'decent' than to be 'very good' a couple of times? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Messica 5,468 Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 Oh, I see, I see~ It seems like there are a lot of things to consider when judging someone's ability. So what I understand is that resonance is not everything, especially if it's very fluky. Is this right? Would it be just better to be consistently 'okay'/'decent' than to be 'very good' a couple of times? a lot of okay/decent people are consistent in that are but also they have some good moments. Consistency is key tho. What's better than being consistent is trying to do better, reach a higher level and then strive to be consistent at it. Eg Taeyeon is working hard to be a resonance whore and more but she is decent. But its perfectly fine staying okay and decent because it shows more that you're serious of being a serious vocalist, whereas if you were mediocre its bad because being consistently mediocre means you're not showing the will to improve. This is worse than showing that you're more than just mediocre but just staying there and not striving to be consistent to that higher ability. For example, Jessica (sorry guys, just using my bias as an example, I won't go further into this). She's had a few decent moments and has shown she could be okay more than a few times for many years, but for many years we've been waiting for her to step into the okay moment, but she's not which shows she will or lack thereof to be a serious vocalist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akisame 3,880 Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 (edited) a lot of okay/decent people are consistent in that are but also they have some good moments. Consistency is key tho. What's better than being consistent is trying to do better, reach a higher level and then strive to be consistent at it. Eg Taeyeon is working hard to be a resonance whore and more but she is decent. But its perfectly fine staying okay and decent because it shows more that you're serious of being a serious vocalist, whereas if you were mediocre its bad because being consistently mediocre means you're not showing the will to improve. This is worse than showing that you're more than just mediocre but just staying there and not striving to be consistent to that higher ability. For example, Jessica (sorry guys, just using my bias as an example, I won't go further into this). She's had a few decent moments and has shown she could be okay more than a few times for many years, but for many years we've been waiting for her to step into the okay moment, but she's not which shows she will or lack thereof to be a serious vocalist. Jessica hasn't had any decent moments, heck her OK moments are even that OK. Also, your post shows that you have no real knoweldge of vocal pedagogy or how the voice works. Please, refrain from answering questions that you obviously don't have the ability to answer. AhMin's answer was already enough and it explained everything perfectly, you are just being confusing as fuck. I know Jessica is your bias, she's my bias too, but just fucking stop talking about. Jessica hasn't done anything worth talking about. Why should we constantly obsess over a girls vocals that haven't improved since 2008? When Jessica sings a note which is resonant then talk about her all you like, but giving Sica as an example in your post is utterly flawed (and frankly annoying). Jessica is mediocre and will probably stay mediocre forever, there's no point about wishing for her to improve or whatever the fuck. Just shut the fuck up about Jessica and stop trying to answer questions that you obviously don't have the ability to answer properly. (BTW If you were going to bring up a vocalist who is consistently decent you should have talked about Eunji!) Edited August 10, 2013 by akisame 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josias 369 Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 Actually judging someones ability in singing alone is so vast. Cause you can also judge on how rhythmic they are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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