BAZISSINO 2,061 Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Nobody actually knows who BTS vocal coach is the only thing we know is that their coach belong to the same trainer agency than the guy currently teaching Somi in the Unnies. Correct me if I'm wrong but Kim Sung Eun who was training BTS Jin and TWICE is not part of the season 2 of produce 101. Those coach are new and that guy was doing a really bad job literally telling the boys to hit the high notes even if it didn't fit their range and even scolding them for not hitting the right note as if they all became main vocals of their agency. The girl is a vocal trainer under JYP but I don't think she trained TWICE since Kim Sung Eun was in charge. They didn't really show much of her teaching in the second episode tbh She is throaty here and there in the performance but overall she seems to be good imo. No THE GIRL Is THE VOCAL COACH in YG like the Official One she's lee hi teacher, she seems GOOD LOL where? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAZISSINO 2,061 Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Shin Yumi was previously a in house YG vocal trainer but she quit because she joined The Voice. She's the exclusive vocal trainer of Lee Hi before but now she also teaches BlackPink, Twice and Got7 according to PD101 S2. TWICE and GOT7 too ? where it was said ?can you link it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAZISSINO 2,061 Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 it's my 2nd fave tiffany pic after the *cris off-key* one LOL You never know, maybe the Eb5 was from a different performance date haha. Otherwise it will be removed from her analysis </3 @anyone, Aside from that one random resonant F5 , have you guys heard Yuju inconsistently support D5 and above before? 1:40 Eb5 again She's just 19 lol she barely had 4 Comebacks let give her time to work and improve her technique 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAZISSINO 2,061 Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 gonna butt in your discussion a bit lol. Is Taeyeon's mix balanced as of now or is she leaning towards one side? For me it Quite balanced 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAZISSINO 2,061 Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 no lie, this is just out of the blue? read back a few pages, there's a discussion about it, maybe. It could be a possibility, maybe. AND YOu GUYS Believed it lol , have you guys Heard him speaking he speak around the 3rd octave from Eb3 to A3 sometimes higher that definitely a tenor .... EVEN KYUNGSOO who speak lower than natural , Plus his voice is placed higher than a baritone and don't mix untile Eb4/E4 here an example both chen and baekhyun speak around the 3rd octave when chanyeol dip into A2 - C3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAZISSINO 2,061 Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 AND YOu GUYS Believed it lol , have you guys Heard him speaking he speak around the 3rd octave from Eb3 to A3 sometimes higher that definitely a tenor .... EVEN KYUNGSOO who speak lower than natural , Plus his voice is placed higher than a baritone and don't mix untile Eb4/E4 here an example both chen and baekhyun speak around the 3rd octave when chanyeol dip into A2 - C3 ANd do you guys hear mixing around B3 - D4 ???.... '-' !!! here's how a baritone mix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAZISSINO 2,061 Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 I not calling it quite yet, but I'm def interested in hearing from CY about it. My mind it open. I don't think speaking voices are completely reliable, Kyungsoo does speak low but he used to speak higher lol You what ?!! honestly i don't see how BAEKHYUN is BARITONE ... But you believe what you want lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAZISSINO 2,061 Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 Most western pop stars to debut in the last decade and a half aren't even average singers. Kpop isn't especially lacking in vocal skill, the skill level trends pretty high. Vocal training in SK seems normal, it's like anywhere else. There's coaches who know what they're doing and coaches who don't. They have a lot of skilled singers, even some non professional citizens who guest on singing shows can be pretty good. When it comes to idols, it's not just singing skill and drive that matters, idols are meant to be all rounders. So they're people who were cast as kids, for their good looks, dance skills, and entertaining aura. If companies refuse to pay out for decent vocal coaches (YG, JYP), then the idols they cast are shit out of luck, unless they find somewhere else to get instruction. Or the company can cast good coaches (SM) but some idols just aren't receptive. "even some non professional citizens who guest on singing shows can be pretty good" BY GOOD YOu mean Singing on pitch Cause 90% don't even support Their middle Ranges and "Or the company can cast good coaches (SM) but some idols just aren't receptive" THAT WRONG SM don't Train non-leads or mains ( like irene , yoona .....ect ) SO all of them are receptive To support LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAZISSINO 2,061 Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 (edited) Edited May 2, 2017 by BAZISSINO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAZISSINO 2,061 Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 Well, that woman who sang with Sandeul had resonance, and Hyorin's duet parter had a good head voice iirc. Not everyone just even some. Luhan, Suho, Changmin, Krystal, arguably even Seulgi are lead vocalist who didn't really develop a strong technique under SM's training, despite long training periods for some of them. this is way i said i 90% there some exceptions i wouldn't mention hyorin partner cause she wasn't That good eunkwang partner impressed me tho . i wouldn't CALL suho and luhan lead or main , changmin at jaejoong and junsu time Wasn't Main or lead for me he got as much lines as yunho and yoochun For seulgi she's average at least she support lol i think there's some people SM didn't care for training Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAZISSINO 2,061 Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 Helloo. Could someone kindly check. Is 2:27 a C#5 or a D5? jiw'ooo' she sang C#5 then C5 and Bb4 like the original the C#5 was at 2:24 tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAZISSINO 2,061 Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 After watching those fancam from TaeYeon's Persona concert, i hear more pitch issue than usual. She still produce nice resonant though... I think maybe she overworked, she really look skinny nowadays. Pitch issue .... where i didn't heard that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAZISSINO 2,061 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 Yeah but his video wouldn't be about how range isn't important, it's about how that isn't his highest note. I should also make one about the whistle register cause people keep thinking high falsetto is a whistle. Thank you!! Don't forget to mention hwasa falsetto C#6 and Eb6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAZISSINO 2,061 Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 I'm not saying that she'll be good just because she's at SM. Well, they do tend to have good teachers there, or at least it is assumed. Probably all of SM's main vocalists are at least Proficient/Decent...with the exception of NCT, for now. And Yeonjung would've most likely been a main vocalist... But if she didn't then she'd probably just be the same lol. The Fate cover sounds much better than her other performances... I wonder if she regressed. SM mains weren't all that Great when they debuted .... and NCT ( TAeil , doyoung and jaehyun ) all have some average support basics ps: jaehyun A main baritone with some basic at SM which is quite new if we don't count daddy hwanhee ofc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAZISSINO 2,061 Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 NCT's Taeil...how high can he support? I thought I've heard him support G#4s before but there really isn't much material for him... I just know that he has an OK lower range and strains A4s he have F#4/G4 not sure i heard tight G#4s connected not supported head voice moments low range i think it pretty average maybe E3 .... but the phrased A4s don't sound that bad at 1:02 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KYM1IuGDns i never heard the song live not lipschy so we can't be sure , he's already votedd as best new idol vocalist by idols ( they probably forgot seungkwan ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAZISSINO 2,061 Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 I'm not but some people want to insist she's a mezzo very rare clip of her true light tone LOL , if you hear her mixing here around Bb4 - C#5 ( 1:08) it scream soprano to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAZISSINO 2,061 Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 very rare clip of her true light tone LOL , if you hear her mixing here around Bb4 - C#5 ( 1:08) it scream soprano to me 2:56 another example where she sing in unison with younha , even when her mix is more chesty and heavy than younha she still sound sopranish up C#5 , most mezzos would engage more effort to mix C#5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAZISSINO 2,061 Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 Hasn't she already been on it? Anyway, it'll be exciting to see what she chooses to sing. No it her first time and she won against rainbow's jissok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAZISSINO 2,061 Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 random, but i watched this really nice cover recently @1:20 idk if shes supported or not but she has so much ease in her lower range i would say that A3 was supported Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAZISSINO 2,061 Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 His head voice sound quite nice. When he don't get too high he also sounds fine, he don't sound like a "pop vocalist". QUite nice ?!! it just connected he's classicly trained but the wrong way even the low 5th don't sound relaxed or supported, you can listen to hi Bb4 at 4:41 it doesn't sound supported i don't know where people hear the resonance around G5 - D6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAZISSINO 2,061 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 (edited) Great video! So, Strain is basically that single even shouty note and support is that vibrant, open, and fuller sound that comes with a note. and as for strain, people who are good singer can even strain if they don't use good technique or don't have good voice condition. Is that right? I don't know jack about notes and stuff, but it's definitely easier to pick out strain and support when someone puts it in a video like this. Not necessary some don't strain within their supported range even when they're tired/in bad condition they don't resonate like the usual but they still support Edited June 14, 2017 by BAZISSINO 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAZISSINO 2,061 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 If they use bad technique they're still most likely going to strain though s/he said good singers so i assumed competent and above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAZISSINO 2,061 Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 with head voice the higher you go less air you need same with whistle you just need the cord closure to happen effectively if you let too much air going out it gonna sound breathy it you push from your diaphragm more air it gonna sound tense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAZISSINO 2,061 Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 I mean, like those video of people covering Mariah's whistle, you said many were aspirated, I tried doing the same and I can go a lot higher than I can witht my head voice, so I was wondering why that happens edit: ooh, I was waiting for this one!! with head voice the higher you go less air you need same with whistle you just need the cord closure to happen effectively if you let too much air going out it gonna sound breathy it you push from your diaphragm more air it gonna sound tense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAZISSINO 2,061 Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 (edited) Jaehyun's above Taeil? Didn't expect that. Can I ask why you think so? Jaehyun really doesn't have a lot of material. The only ones I could think of right now is 'Without You' and 'A Whole New World', both of which didn't really show anything above good D4 and below...B2/C3 lol. But has he sang an Eb? I do think he is better than Doyoung. Doyoung is being...inconsistent, I guess. With his overall support...he always got the F#4s tho. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTPlniYyr10 he sang an Eb4 at 1:24 he also hit some C#3s around 2:07 ~ 2:13 hope they perform this live ( the only somehow vocal song ) Edited June 23, 2017 by BAZISSINO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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