galhadineas 2,027 Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 (edited) K said it wasn't straight up strain as i initially thought it was, but rather it just sounds a bit tired, definitely not her best but also not her worst. Seeing as to how she went to the Inkigayo recording at 3:30 in the morning, i can understand why she would be tired lol. I dunno why the fuck they have idols record at such an ungodly hour. but anyway yeah, good day to you guys lol ikr? Inkigayo is actually earlier in the morning than the other weekend shows, right? I'm pretty sure she's tired, maybe she wasn't really warmed up too. Good day to you too Edited March 5, 2017 by DanReborn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
칼릴� 438 Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Literally past 1am is such an unreasonable time to sing... Like especially if you have been active throughout the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Secre 1,557 Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Pretty complete video of Yuju's showcased vocal range What was that C#5 at 13:09 that had to be strained right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jstarfully 798 Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 What was that C#5 at 13:09 that had to be strained right Strained and not placed correctly. Her support isn't the worst, but since she didn't place it correctly her voice kinda cracked and she struggled to keep on pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAZISSINO 2,061 Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 was 2:47 supported? I mean, it sounds different from the other perfomances, it sounds pushed and high larynx but I'm not sure lol and I'm using headphones edit: the quality here is better but I still think it sounds weird https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfwvgvCnmRg&feature=youtu.be Pushed but not high larynx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeong jaehyuns boyfriend 10,627 Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Strained and not placed correctly. Her support isn't the worst, but since she didn't place it correctly her voice kinda cracked and she struggled to keep on pitch. I wonder why that was chosen for the video lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AhMin 5,245 Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Minzy's cover of "Shut Up" Minzy's cover of "Kiliing me softly" what do you guys think of these covers? and in Minzy's vocal skills and techniques in general ?? I want to know too This was answered on the blog "15:34 what do you mean if that’s normal? Overall her Bb4’s and B4’s lacked openness and she sounded a bit tense but that seemed to be a condition thing more so than a technical issue. Killing me softly had less tension but the English had her going nasal." If you're unaware of the fact that we already have an analysis on Minzy, here it is: https://kpopvocalanalysis.net/2014/06/28/2ne1s-vocal-analysis-minzy-newly-updated/ These covers don't show anything new nor does she seem to have improved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galhadineas 2,027 Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 I love Hani's cry register!! It has that unique cracky quality without losing resonace and stability!! Bless your ears Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clay 11,273 Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 I love Hani's cry register!! It has that unique cracky quality without losing resonace and stability!! Bless your ears HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swimgood 2,688 Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 I love Hani's cry register!! It has that unique cracky quality without losing resonace and stability!! Bless your ears hani's voice amazes me sometimes, i hate when people brush her off as a visual only girl can serve looks and talent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Y. 1,041 Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 Would this be a lower voice type (wiki says he was an operatic bass) singing contemporary, while employing a lower larynx? This sound all but disappeared from contemporary sound post-war era. And kinda related but in general: Gaston or Richard White, his VA. I'm not sure if he's a good example, but I always loved his voice and how rounded it was. But look what they did. I didn't need another reason to dislike this new BaTB but, the new Gaston's voice.... no! 0:37 yeah he's definitely singing with a low larynx LOL, but apparently that is the actor lipsyncing to an opera singer, is that correct? There are many musical theater-ish baritones that were close to their sub-types but I've never heard it done by a baritone in a way that was close and yet seen by the public as a popular genre singer. I think the closest male singer (who is also accepted as a popular genre singer) I have ever heard is Tom Jones, who is still well known today of course. He's a judge on The Voice UK. Almost everyone will tell you he is a baritone but he would definitely dramatic tenor if he sang opera. He's known for having sung in many genres. listen to 0:51 to 1:05 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckabx0MtCY0 2:53 - 3:00 This guy was a dramatic tenor, he's not one of my favorite tenors but I always felt Tom Jones would have a similar timbre lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uaen8W7Ejzg But yeah, men do not sing with more depth/throat space and more chest voice coordination anymore. It's easier to mix thin in neutral, and you can see that the most popular influences for male singers are different than the ones for females. Stevie Wonder, Michael Jackson, Freddie Mercury as opposed to singers like Whitney. It is part of this whole diva thing to belt big with chest voice, and women still very much like this way of singing. But men started singing thinner because it was easier to access high notes this way, so the sound became more cultivated and popular throughout the last few decades, and that's what you hear now in the majority of contemporary male singing. this is what the highest baritone sounds like in opera. 3:12 - 3:27 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkacHXFSYCg You can see there is no resemblance of the high baritones you hear in pop to this opera singer, not in the way that some female singers and Tom Jones had. and there are much more high baritones than people realize in pop, especially from what I've been hearing in the young popular singers in American pop radio (like Shawn Mendes). many high baritones just get called "light lyric tenor" for sure, the most overused classification ever lol. and becuz I get the feeling some people might think i'm joking when I talk about the sub-type of really light sounding male pop singers who are actually heavier, this is what the operatic baritone sounds like when speaking...in NEUTRAL larynx 0:40 - 0:50 it is a ridiculously high and bright voice, and if he sang neutral like the way that he talked, then he would just sound like a tenor to a lot of people. Notice how all the male singers you're used to listening to have singing voices that either sound like their speaking voices or may even sound a bit lighter (assuming most people have fairly similar speech habits, some people don't). It's cuz they truly are singing fairly neutral, as opposed to some women who sound deeper and heavier. I was listening to the radio yesterday and even Katy freaking Perry ain't singing neutral LOL. ...i'll watch it for Emma Watson tho Wouldn't a voice producing higher frequencies just mean hitting higher notes? nope, what moralar said. I'm talking about the other distinct frequencies of each instrument alongside the fundamental frequency, or in other words the harmonics and overtones that make up what you perceive as timbre. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Full Moon 7,229 Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 I wanted to ask this if there is no problem A singer can still improve in their singing even if their vocal technique is poor right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AhMin 5,245 Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 I wanted to ask this if there is no problem A singer can still improve in their singing even if their vocal technique is poor right? Yes of course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Full Moon 7,229 Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 Yes of course Thanks but how does that work? Doesn't a bad/weak vocal technique limits the singer to reach other notes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galhadineas 2,027 Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 isn't it really weird when a vocalist decides to do that subtle aegyo voice and sound like a completely different person? compare the girl who sings at 0:24 to herself singing at 2:45 lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AhMin 5,245 Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 Thanks but how does that work? Doesn't a bad/weak vocal technique limits the singer to reach other notes? Well yes so you have to fix their bad vocal habits and their technique so that they can learn the right/healthy way to develop their voices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avatarkyungsoo 2,743 Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 (edited) isn't it really weird when a vocalist decides to do that subtle aegyo voice and sound like a completely different person? compare the girl who sings at 0:24 to herself singing at 2:45 lol omg her eyes i was not ready lmao. Ugh reminds me of Eunha from GFriend. She keeps having to use a really cutesy mousy whiny voice in a lot of their songs. She sounds so much better with her normal singing voice. I mean she is probably weak but even then she sounds fuller and more open (not that she's open) when she isn't doing the cute voice. PS. she's the most expressionless singer i have ever seen in my life, she strains high notes with a straight face lmao Edited March 7, 2017 by Kevin92 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Messica 5,468 Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 how were the Bb4s at 1:16? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galhadineas 2,027 Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 omg her eyes i was not ready lmao. Ugh reminds me of Eunha from GFriend. She keeps having to use a really cutesy mousy whiny voice in a lot of their songs. She sounds so much better with her normal singing voice. I mean she is probably weak but even then she sounds fuller and more open (not that she's open) when she isn't doing the cute voice. PS. she's the most expressionless singer i have ever seen in my life, she strains high notes with a straight face lmao you should check out Tara's Soyeon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AhMin 5,245 Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 how were the Bb4s at 1:16? Maybe you should've picked this performance instead where they're not dancing, for a more fair assessment. Either way they're throaty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Messica 5,468 Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 (edited) Maybe you should've picked this performance instead where they're not dancing, for a more fair assessment. Either way they're throaty. okay i see thanks Anyway listening to her in general to me she sounds like she is a mezzo with some support. Edited March 7, 2017 by Messica Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avatarkyungsoo 2,743 Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 you should check out Tara's Soyeon yeah i follow t-ara, they have so much material though, like i dont notice soyeon doing a cutesy style except for maybe bo peep bo and a few others Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AhMin 5,245 Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 okay i see thanks Anyway listening to her in general to me she sounds like she is a mezzo with some support. I would respectfully disagree. I think she's just a chesty throaty soprano who doesn't know how to mix and only pushes from her throat. I don't think she supports nor that she's a mezzo. I could be wrong about the soprano part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galhadineas 2,027 Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 yeah i follow t-ara, they have so much material though, like i dont notice soyeon doing a cutesy style except for maybe bo peep bo and a few others I was actually talking about the expressionless part lolol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galhadineas 2,027 Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 since you guys are talking about nayoung maybe a full perfomance from her would be helpful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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