Corysilk 16 Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 throwback wednesday https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWUrIUUvZnE do you guys remember this mess? Can someone explain what was so bad about this? I know Choa was pushing a bit but she still hit the right notes and had fullness to her voice right? The other girls seemed to sound perfect, minus the one girl with the long orange hair during her high notes (it sounded kinda sharp). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galhadineas 2,027 Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 Shouldn't it be tiring and painful to sing like that ? her transitions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lys 4,706 Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 (edited) Can someone explain what was so bad about this? I know Choa was pushing a bit but she still hit the right notes and had fullness to her voice right? The other girls seemed to sound perfect, minus the one girl with the long orange hair during her high notes (it sounded kinda sharp). I think the discussion about that performance started here: https://onehallyu.com/topic/552-official-vocals-thread-read-op-first/page-2409?do=findComment&comment=16185956 If you follow the comments below you might get an idea. Edited March 2, 2017 by Lilah Lys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moralar 21 Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 Wouldn't a voice producing higher frequencies just mean hitting higher notes? The perceived pitch of a note is its fundamental frequency, but acoustic energy also goes into overtones/harmonics of the fundamental, and it is these higher frequencies that are largely responsible for the "character" of the sound. By modifying placement, etc. vocal resonance can be adjusted to put more energy into particular overtones, as with the singer's formant or for an extreme example, . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParkHyoLee 322 Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 (edited) Can someone explain what was so bad about this? I know Choa was pushing a bit but she still hit the right notes and had fullness to her voice right? The other girls seemed to sound perfect, minus the one girl with the long orange hair during her high notes (it sounded kinda sharp). I don't think fullness would be the right word. Choa was definitely pushing more than just a little bit. Choa had major tongue tension and hella closed trying to sustain the C#5s/C5s and phrasing the B4s, along with a shaky falsetto. 2:47 was just so tense, swallowed. Chandelier has a fair amount of notes outside of Choa's supported range, so it's to be expected. The song in general wasn't exactly the best performance by any of them (I dunno about the girl people keep thinking is Jimin tho). They've performed better Edited March 2, 2017 by ParkHyoLee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clay 11,273 Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 I don't think fullness would be the right word. Choa was definitely pushing more than just a little bit. Choa had major tongue tension and hella closed trying to sustain the C#5s/C5s and phrasing the B4s, along with a shaky falsetto. 2:47 was just so tense, swallowed. Chandelier has a fair amount of notes outside of Choa's supported range, so it's to be expected. The song in general wasn't exactly the best performance by any of them (I dunno about the girl people keep thinking is Jimin tho). They've performed better any of them ? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParkHyoLee 322 Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 any of them ?Obv im not saying that SSY and Ailee did poorly it's just the whole thing really was awkward like SSY's transitions into head voice were awkward with the EE vowel and Ailee had that vowel shaping thing that isn't objectively "bad" but subjectively I would've liked for her to like... Sound as huge as SSY for example Sent from my LG-D852 using OneHallyu mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Full Moon 7,229 Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 Hey guys just passing by to ask (if i can of course) Where would Bruno Mars be placed as a vocalist? Is he above average, good and such I got curious since i was listening to him and was watching a live performance, he always seems to be able to hit high notes or perform overall without much effort but thats just me. Sorry for the random question lol The one im talking about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParkHyoLee 322 Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 any of them ? Also I just noticed your sig Hey guys just passing by to ask (if i can of course) Where would Bruno Mars be placed as a vocalist? Is he above average, good and such I got curious since i was listening to him and was watching a live performance, he always seems to be able to hit high notes or perform overall without much effort but thats just me. Sorry for the random question lol The one im talking about If you search the thread, it's been said that Bruno Mars isn't very much of a technical singer. He can mix high, sure, but it's pretty much the result of using his throat and relying on tension to be able to mix that high rather than relying on good muscle coordination and breath support Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Full Moon 7,229 Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 If you search the thread, it's been said that Bruno Mars isn't very much of a technical singer. He can mix high, sure, but it's pretty much the result of using his throat and relying on tension to be able to mix that high rather than relying on good muscle coordination and breath support Oh you are right lol I thought you guys just talked about kpop singers sorry That slander to my favorite singer tho and i thought he was good 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clay 11,273 Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Also I just noticed your sig If you search the thread, it's been said that Bruno Mars isn't very much of a technical singer. He can mix high, sure, but it's pretty much the result of using his throat and relying on tension to be able to mix that high rather than relying on good muscle coordination and breath support stan Hao Yun Xiang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Messica 5,468 Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 stan Hao Yun Xiang your sig. sweetie....delete it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clay 11,273 Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 your sig. sweetie....delete it uhm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abra 40,910 Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 throwback wednesday https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWUrIUUvZnE do you guys remember this mess? Atleast the harmony at the end was nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jstarfully 798 Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Oh you are right lol I thought you guys just talked about kpop singers sorry That slander to my favorite singer tho and i thought he was good Just because someone doesn't possess divine technical mastery of their voice doesn't mean that you can't enjoy their singing hahaha Plus Bruno Mars is pretty good when he's not overextending himself. Also, I think his signature song-writing style is the most amazing thing he has going for him, he's a crazy good writer and producer, although he does work with others of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Messica 5,468 Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 uhm He has really long proportions tho, like a model body uhm He has really long proportions tho, like a model body Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clay 11,273 Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 He has really long proportions tho, like a model body He has really long proportions tho, like a model body that's because he's a super model lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avatarkyungsoo 2,743 Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 (edited) she went for the B5 ya'll! I expected her to leave it to the backtrack haha https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9mYZsylXng for reference on how she did: ahmin3 March 3, 2017 at 2:30 am I would say I agree with you. I’d actually say the G3’s have a slightly lowered larynx but they’re pretty nice, it’s just a bit of a push that she could relax more upon. The D5’s seem slightly pushed with good placement, the 3:03 did seem like the best one out of the three! She’s using a bit too much throat to push, just a tad bit too much that she could relax on. The placement is really good, she just needs to pull back on the pushing a tad. 3:30 Oh she actually went for the B5. Edited March 3, 2017 by Kevin92 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krapty Petty 40 Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Taeyonce slayed ha D5s & headvoice. Ended careers 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peaceful Namdongsaeng 436 Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 https://kpopalypse.com/2017/03/01/kpopalypse-presents-the-v-files-1-resonance/#more-7453 I'd really love to hear your opinions on this article. Thanks in advance! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blanc_imc 2,338 Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Pretty complete video of Yuju's showcased vocal range 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swimgood 2,688 Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Pretty complete video of Yuju's showcased vocal range a goddess 😠2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Full Moon 7,229 Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Just because someone doesn't possess divine technical mastery of their voice doesn't mean that you can't enjoy their singing hahaha Plus Bruno Mars is pretty good when he's not overextending himself. Also, I think his signature song-writing style is the most amazing thing he has going for him, he's a crazy good writer and producer, although he does work with others of course. Of course i will still enjoy the amazing artist that bruno is and his singing too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeong jaehyuns boyfriend 10,627 Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Taeyonce slayed ha D5s & headvoice. Ended careers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AhMin 5,245 Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 (edited) https://kpopalypse.com/2017/03/01/kpopalypse-presents-the-v-files-1-resonance/#more-7453 I'd really love to hear your opinions on this article. Thanks in advance! I'm sorry but what opinion is there to give? This is an article written in a sarcastic disrespectful tone, from a physics point of view without a vocal knowledge nor understanding. He's not even taking a jab at us only, he's taking a jab at the whole concept of vocal technique and singing ability, as if singing technique wasn't important at all. That shows clear ignorance when it comes to vocal instruction. For someone who simply thinks that vocal technique isn't important at all he sure seems very passionate about debunking it but I digress. I hope he's happy and feels fulfilled while we lead our happy lives in peace. Edited March 3, 2017 by AhMin 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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