jeong jaehyuns boyfriend 10,627 Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 Click here to view the Tweet Did Taehyung hit a F4 followed by a G4 in this video? Also one more question please, how long before his voice deteriorates faster than Bom can gobble down a corn? Edit: Idk how to embed tweets. this was actually really painful for me to watch because taehyung is one of my ultimate biases and im also a baritone like he is. i think you actually mean F5 and G5? because that's what he was... "hitting" i think. its sad that he feels like he has to sing that high - i think he hasnt really realized that he's a baritone and just thinks that he has a more deep-set voice than the other members. bighit needs to stop making him sing lines meant for a tenor. his solo could have sounded so much better if it was just lowered a few keys (or maybe even a whole octave) to match his natural range. unfortunate. Did you see their performance of blood weat & tears at the gaon awards? Jimin cracked at the start of all his parts >.< it was so sad to watch catch coz i read an article that he said he is so frustrated coz he keeps trying to improve his singing but nothing happens. Cracking a bunch of times on stage seems like it would definitely hurt his self-confidence bighit needs to start investing in some vocal trainers :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galhadineas 2,027 Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 (edited) hey guys, what is the lowest note she hit here from 2:00 till 2:04? Was her larynx lowered? Edited February 24, 2017 by DanReborn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AhMin 5,245 Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 the "back of the throat" is the pharynx. The pharynx is part of the vocal tract. And changing the dimensions of that space is done by having the larynx in different positions. So yes, it is the same thing. The problem is what you are saying is contradictory, to you he is singing from the back of his throat but is apparently still in a fairly neutral position. Am I understanding this part correctly? it is still a bit confusing here. It is completely accurate to say that he was singing with a lower larynx position, because that is what he was literally doing. Obviously I was implying he wasn't doing it well either, I didn't think I needed to spell that part out. The idea of "mask" and "placement" has been scientifically proven false for decades now, but that is usually a topic I am too lazy to get into so I am gonna ignore that part for now. But if you feel like challenging me on that, just say the word, I am not one to back out of my claims. You've probably never ever seen me use those two terms for a very good reason. his larynx doesn't sound lowered "dramatic enough" for you because what I am saying this entire time is that yes, we do not hear the same thing. He is absolutely, 100% fact singing lower than you think. Like most pop people, you have a tough time actually telling how low a larynx truly is with consistency, which is why there are videos like that popular larynx position video on youtube by user Westvoice, where he/she attacks lower larynx positions while praising a few singers in the video that are actually using lower larynx positions as "neutral", lmfao. As long as something sounds "natural" enough to you, then it will be thought of as neutral, which is a problem because what is "natural"? That word is terribly subjective in pop music, mostly it just means what types of sounds are acceptable or sound pretty to the general public. It does not necessarily mean technically correct. And there are certainly many singers, especially higher voice types like tenors and females, that can alter their sound heavier and still sound acceptable because their vocal folds produce higher frequencies. higher frequencies get perceived as "mask". and "mask" is perceived as around neutral, and is also perceived as pretty in pop. Neutral and pretty is perceived as "natural". In your case, you have this idea of what you think so-called "full lyric tenors" sound like singing in neutral, so this allows him to alter his timbre darker and thicker than you think while still sounding to you as if he isn't that much lower than neutral. Mhmm I see, got it. Thank you for the explanation, I agree with your points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAZISSINO 2,061 Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 hey guys, what is the lowest note she hit here from 2:00 till 2:04? Was her larynx lowered? That was G3 , she support down Eb3 so i don't expect her to lower her larynx in that range Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galhadineas 2,027 Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 That was G3 , she support down Eb3 so i don't expect her to lower her larynx in that range Actually I've seen her lowering her larynx even in her supported range, she doesn't do that very often but I've seen it. Thank you 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAZISSINO 2,061 Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 Actually I've seen her lowering her larynx even in her supported range, she doesn't do that very often but I've seen it. Thank you Maybe prior to 2014 cause from the performances i saw to make her vocal range she don't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Messica 5,468 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Wendy's vocal teacher talks about Wendy as a trainee and that she used to push so much because she wanted to debut so badly and that he told her to just use her head voice. I guess thats why she has a nice head voice too i guess. starts at 7:00 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Messica 5,468 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Isn't vocally challenging but still requires skill? Think Rain by TaeYeon, Love and Affection by SeoHyun something that isn't overly difficult, but still requires you to sing. Also how you write great affects it's difficulty level, not the range it self. Because Gee and Can You Hear Me have the same range of A3-Eb5 y'see lol? What are you going for style wise? Like do you have any songs that you have in mind that I can sort of base things off? Love and affection is a shower song LOVE IT! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Relativity 17 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 (edited) Wendy's vocal teacher talks about Wendy as a trainee and that she used to push so much because she wanted to debut so badly and that he told her to just use her head voice. I guess thats why she has a nice head voice too i guess. starts at 7:00 She alr had nice head voice before training in SM tho. She's just improving. Halo Seasons of love Edited February 25, 2017 by iseethelight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAZISSINO 2,061 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 She alr had nice head voice before training in SM tho. She's just improving. Halo Seasons of love actually her Head voice have declined a bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platty 4,891 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 What exactly is a head voice? Sorry for being stupid, it's just that I hear about it a lot but never knew what it exactly was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Relativity 17 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 actually her Head voice have declined a bit I ever heard about it but still, not so sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juu 3,359 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Are there any tips on how to hear if someone supports or not? I've read a lot about it so I understand the concept of supporting, I just can't ... hear it lol. It's easy to recognize very weak vocalists of course, but for example I couldn't make it out myself if Namjoo supports or not (apparently she doesn't). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
칼릴� 438 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 What exactly is a head voice? Sorry for being stupid, it's just that I hear about it a lot but never knew what it exactly was. Are you asking for a technical of what it is like a definition or are you asking for a definition? This is what head voice sounds like: And for a definition...well..it's the highest register for singing (not including the whistle register), a true head voice is produced when the vocal cords come into full contact with a each other without any kind of excess air passing through, the vibrations(resonance) and mainly felt in the forehead or upper cheekbone area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
칼릴� 438 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Are there any tips on how to hear if someone supports or not? I've read a lot about it so I understand the concept of supporting, I just can't ... hear it lol. It's easy to recognize very weak vocalists of course, but for example I couldn't make it out myself if Namjoo supports or not (apparently she doesn't). Well, most people who have weak support in the chest voice area tend to have shallow tone production which sounds sort of flat and weak, essentially undeveloped also they can sound air. In chest voice if someone isn't supporting there can be a tight, shrill sound that lacks freedom and it can sound kind of pained. In the lower register..most of the time if someone isn't supporting the tone just turns into air really. Head voice it's normally just shrill and tight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abra 40,910 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 this is me trying to use head voice The armies in the comments tho What exactly is a head voice? Sorry for being stupid, it's just that I hear about it a lot but never knew what it exactly was. It's like a falsetto but instead of being airy it is... clear. I can't really explain it any better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juu 3,359 Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Well, most people who have weak support in the chest voice area tend to have shallow tone production which sounds sort of flat and weak, essentially undeveloped also they can sound air. In chest voice if someone isn't supporting there can be a tight, shrill sound that lacks freedom and it can sound kind of pained. In the lower register..most of the time if someone isn't supporting the tone just turns into air really. Head voice it's normally just shrill and tight. Ah, I know that airy sound! I guess I'll just have to listen to more examples to get a better feeling. Thanks for the answer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avatarkyungsoo 2,743 Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 (edited) is this Bb5 at around 0:13? Edited February 26, 2017 by Kevin92 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StepOnMeJas 3,806 Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 is this Bb5 at around 0:13? I hear B5, but I'm not sure 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
칼릴� 438 Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 is this Bb5 at around 0:13? Not good lol. It's head voice but not good lol. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avatarkyungsoo 2,743 Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 (edited) Not good lol. It's head voice but not good lol. oh i was just asking what note haha, but thanks for clarifying it was head voice! May I ask if the D5s were resonant? btw have you heard the teaser clips of the other songs? I'm liking her album from what i've heard, Fine and Fire being my favorite so far Edited February 26, 2017 by Kevin92 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
칼릴� 438 Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 oh i was just asking what note haha, but thanks for clarifying it was head voice! May I ask if the D5s were resonant? btw have you heard the teaser clips of the other songs? I'm really liking her album from what i've heard I need to learn how to read. I read "how was" and not "is this" oops~ what D5s? I need a stamp lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avatarkyungsoo 2,743 Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 (edited) I need to learn how to read. I read "how was" and not "is this" oops~ what D5s? I need a stamp lol. lol! it's sunday morning(ish?) there right? haha totally understandable. If I'm not mistaken, the hits D5s at 0:8,0:11,0:13 Edited February 26, 2017 by Kevin92 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
칼릴� 438 Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 lol! it's sunday morning(ish?) there right? haha totally understandable. If I'm not mistaken, the hits D5s at 0:8,0:11,0:13Don't really know if they are resonant but they are supported~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avatarkyungsoo 2,743 Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Don't really know if they are resonant but they are supported~ thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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