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Just to add some light on Jessica's first true live performance of Fly; she actually didn't do too badly. She did pretty well on the Bb4/B4 the vowels definitely helped because they were open vowels but she definitely was supported and significantly more open than in like the audio of Fly. The lower end of the song was also pretty well executed. Only true mishap was 2:53 which is actually understandable. That note is a C#5 on an Oo vowel sound. Now C#5 is not really a high note, but she doesn't support it...sooooo yeah. Also Oo is a terrible vowel to belt on forever and always will be. Of course she went flat and cracked as well, but cracking doesn't mean much, but going flat does. So yeah. Overall she did fine. Edited by VT Evil Queen
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You should do an analysis on Ariana Grande tbh. I feel like most people here understand that she's not the greatest, but don't understand why. Also, it'd be nice to have the analysis somewhere around so you can throw it at people who compare her to Mariah Carey xD

No we should not lol K-Pop fans are bad enough we really don't need the wrath of an international popstar's fandom in our backyard.

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off topic, but i miss it when taeyeon used to slay her C#5s in mr taxi. i wish their japanese fancams were still up, but this will have to do....

@3:40
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbE_Uc98ris

I mean now she's slaying D5s, sooooooo are you complaining or? I mean her C#s have gotten better too...
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[spoiler]I really want to take classes and lessons so bad and improve but i have always been scared because my isn't exactly pleasant and i feared that people would wonder why I am taking classes anyways and like judge really badly and ugh [/spoiler]

  

[Spoiler] Same, honestly. My voice isn't exactly appealing and I'm scared that people are gonna be super judgemental and tell me that I should just give up. [/Spoiler]


NO and I mean absolutely NO self respecting teacher would EVER tell a student to give up. Only reason why I could ever see a teacher telling a student to give up is if they student is making absolutely no progress at all, like none, or if it's absolutely futile like wanting to be cardiac surgeon, but you have no hands. Teachers are supposed to teach and encourage, they are supposed to provide you with the tools for you to reach exellency; they are NOT supposed to discourage and only hand out tools to those whom they like. Their job is to teach without judgement. Also putting that aside, you more than likely are paying a voice teacher so I really don't see why they would be like "lol no" when you're paying their phone bill..like..it's financially stupid for them lol. Also, like we always say, tone is SUBJECTIVE just because you think it's gross doesn't mean it's true, hell a THOUSAND people can think it's gross still doesn't make it true. We can be worst enemies don't yours. If you aren't on your own team how can you expect someone else to be?
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How did Hyorin do? (pretty short) 1:12 / 2:53 / 3:34

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3gi2DfGEYg

 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjzeN5xpR_I

 

1:11 / 3:24

The first one isn't live she's lipsyncing to a track, and in the second video she's singing A4 and G4...they're fine.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=191&v=ofeFW-brmF4

 

How did tzuyu do? Jihyo didn't really do well, it's a bad performance in her standards, and nayeon is just speaking the chorus...

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofeFW-brmF4

 

1:18-1:23 and 2:19-2:25

She didn't do anything impressive at all, that's a very simple vocal line. The transition in the 1st line was better than the 2nd, she was flat the 2nd time. I don't mean to sound rude, but this really wasn't a question that needed to be asked because she's singing a vocal line that requires very minimal skill..she's neither singing high nor low she's essentially in her speaking range.

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OMG so Jessica was hitting D3s @0:30. 0:47, 1:37, 1:40, 1:58 in her Thai cover song in her Thai fanmeet. She hits several other F3s here as well.

Her G3s here seem consistently supported like at 0:57,1:43, 2:08

I hope we can put her lower range to consistently be supported down to G3 now since her consistency seems to be improving quite a bit.

[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXQa8osp3XI[/media]

 

Ok, I this isnt a check-a-Jessica-note question, but what did she do here at 0:57? It sounds really weird. Like what was the issue? Is it tongue tension or is it a glottal attack?

[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZXdHdhR3j8[/media]

We've already put her supported range down to G3..which is why it says G3/G#3~B4/C5..

 

She cracked..

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Okay guys, I'm putting a cap on these Jessica performances. Yes, it's been forever since she has actively been performing live, but all of these video questions are getting a bit much especially because she's not doing anything besides being consistent with what she was doing a year ago. So, if you are going to ask a question really ask yourself "Is this any different than what she has been doing?" Thank you.

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Damn thats a chesty crack tho

but that suggests an inconsistency which she is proving otherwise. And its not just lucky days, she is doing it every performance.
Ive written my piece about it in the KVAB. So just read it there.

No, it doesn't necessarily mean she's inconsistent, I do that for everybody..literally everyone. G3-B4/C5 implies she has it 100% of the time and without error and I personally don't believe that's possible so having it G3/G#3 allows room for error and has nothing to really do with consistency. I even have Sohyang C6/C#6 and I've never heard her strain a C#6, it's just that's the top of her supported range so it could potentially have inconsistencies. I would have preferred if you had mentioned it to me here instead of posting there because I have a legit reason as to why I do that.
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Ohk, I dont know, But Jessica is improving with her consistency with her placement.

There was that FLY performance since seoul where almost all her B4s were non nasal

 

And this performance

[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-AzWB8GLLc[/media]

from

1:03

1:57 the A4

2:22-2:24 (the F4-G4-A4 triad before the sustained C5)

2:26-2:29

2:31-2:34

2:36-2:39

2:41-2:52 (12 SECONDS)

 

Literally 25 seconds of non nasality in a performance

Yay? Now if only it was 3 minutes and 16 seconds of no nasality..

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Where? Performances on and off like Dana?
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I thought aly was saying "Asked yourself before posting, is this something she usually does".
I know her mixed notes being non nasal isnt new, but I her big mini world performance sounds not too far to the level of the "on and off" that dana has (i dont know if this is a reach). Like to me the consistency (even though it wasnt consistent) that she was non nasal in that big mini world performance is rare feat for her to me. I always thought Jessica was usually just 2 or 3 non nasal notes here and there, or a few words that are non nasal at most. She's more consistent in these two performances than probably 95% or at least 90% of any her performances. Even resonance on any note below C5 is rare for her. It just sounds like she's working on it.
I thought you prefered to talk about improvement in consistency more than a new moment. Even if Jessica resonates a C5 like she has done a few times before, it wouldnt necessarily/automatically make her AA. There's still things she needs to expect her to acheive and work on before that. Like consistency in her general placement before even consistency on her resonance below C5. She cant even consistently support C5. Then we can start expecting C5s as improvement. Say in like 3 years Jess has 3 resonant C5s (which probably is the case with her) which doesnt really mean much. That totally means nothing, even her something like 10 supported D5s dont mean anything to her rating.
You told me improvement takes little steps. Like should I send you material of myself when I start properly supporting? No, wouldnt you like to hear me have some improvement with control and consistency before doing so?
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I dont know im, tired im gonna go to sleep. Because im tired, If im talking just rubbish then please respond with "NOPE" so ill just submit. You shouldnt have to deal with my crap
yeah then i got checked and I agreed.

I'm not going to lie..you're getting on my nerves. The way you've been aggressively posting about Jessica these past couple of weeks you would think you're the only person paying attention to her and you're not. It's like you have this mentality that if you don't post about it it's going to go unnoticed even though everything she's doing is fairly normal it's not impressive; it doesn't change anything. It's like if I were to post a video of Taeyeon just supporting C5s, yeah, good for her..but they could be better, it's normal, it's average and so is Jessica lifting her soft palate on a B4. Give or take she's lifting her soft palate on a few notes, but it's not changing anything. She's still supporting B4, but with a risen soft palate sometimes. Yay for her she's lifting the palate, but it's not groundbreaking. I guess what I'm trying to say..is that..unless she's REALLY doing something different than before don't post it.
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