Tsabar 245 Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 13 minutes ago, BAZISSINO said: Yeah including minhye ,Minhye in general lack power to produce resonance or even eunji's brighter placement Yes I know but ZRH was talking only on Eb5-F#5, not the mid belts where Eunji is clearly better... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsabar 245 Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 (edited) 35 minutes ago, BAZISSINO said: I would say eunji is better in that range too Oh I thought Minhye is more consistent, atleast on Eb5, but Eunji at her best does seem to do better. Edited February 28, 2022 by Tsabar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsabar 245 Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 (edited) 44 minutes ago, BAZISSINO said: Support in head voice present throughout the clip (won't talk range wise for now ) but she's really a Jamie 2.0 I saw Reggievu saying its not supported (edit:obviously I believe you more lol) Edited March 1, 2022 by Tsabar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsabar 245 Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 People on discord really like shallow voices, they think Haechan and Minnie are better than Tail, Doyoung, Seungkwang .... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsabar 245 Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 47 minutes ago, BAZISSINO said: Is it a serious discord tho ? They talk technique ?or just a hype stan squad ? They ussally don't talk about technique but yesterday for no reason they started to, one of them claim to be trained, he basically say support=not flat and not cracking, and he just praise a bunch of shallow light voices for thinner upper belting and completely ignore how the vocalists sound in the midrange. Anyway I didn't engage a lot since its not some vocal thread or anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsabar 245 Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 16 minutes ago, Taeganger09 said: What would take Taeyeon to be the highest ranking of SM female vocalist on the vocal ranking chart? I've been wanting my gurlie to surpass Luna and Lina and grab that title of best SM female vocalist. I guess she needs to up her head voice range and consistency in her mid-range? (someone correct me if I am wrong) To surpass Lina she will need way fuller head voice and also to support higher and resonant better at her mix, its quite far from her current level... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsabar 245 Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 7 minutes ago, BAZISSINO said: Lina is on a whole another level I'm a realistic person I don't see her surpassing her I'm sorry,catching up to luna is more plausible imo....she need to work on head voice and more above D5 , it not like luna doesn't have her lazy mode too oops you already replied Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsabar 245 Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 1 hour ago, RATY said: looks more like Low Average, she has a few moments that are not shallow at [email protected] She is not really shallow in most of her material just rather soft and small sounding. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsabar 245 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Blueish said: Also yeah, the C5 in that OST is actually pretty decent, but it's still a studio one, I wonder how she'd handle that one live. I remember two live performances of this, in one she was a bit throaty, on another she was quite light and nasal, both attempts have support but could be better. Edited March 23, 2022 by Tsabar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsabar 245 Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 (edited) @ZRH23 What do you think of stary kidz Seungim ? can he support ? would he make it to w-a ? (someone fought/talked to me about him so I am curious) 3:16 E3, 4:11, 4:19 E4s, 5:03, 5:09, 5:16 F4s, 9:42 D3 (some 2nd octave notes before that but I don't think it matters in his case), 9:52 C#4/D4, 1:12 F#4. 0:26 Eb4, 0:52 F4, 1:19 D4 I personally thought he is shallow without anything that notable, do correct me if I am wrong. Edited March 28, 2022 by Tsabar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsabar 245 Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 1 hour ago, ZRH23 said: There's some support sure, but he gets really stuck really early on and it gets tenser starting from Eb4s. F4s carry some support but are beyond stuck lol. I don't really know what exactly would be the threshold for W to A. If we're comparing him to JK then they'd be around the same maybe. JK is not as stuck but Seungmin has a relatively more grounded sound though a bit improper. Either way, it's definitely on the lower side of the scale. He's below like Treasure's main and such. I see, thanks for answering ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsabar 245 Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Dangerous Beauty said: Are her vocal cords, chest coordination, projection strong as she used to be in her prime in case she sings not 'stylistically'. If I am not wrong even when she sings less "stylistically" and more clean this days its still not in par with her preregression self, but I think that have to do with the vowels and approach more so than the chords being weaker. Edited April 3, 2022 by Tsabar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsabar 245 Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, ZRH23 said: They don't support How do they compare to Joy (in terms of shallow support) ? Are they weaker ? Edited April 3, 2022 by Tsabar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsabar 245 Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 26 minutes ago, Blueish said: The clip you linked itself is nothing vocally impressive. There are some 5th octave notes here and there which are all strained. Those notes in the 5th octave by Goeun are not bad at all (not supported but the phrasing is easy, and the sustained C#5 are not too messy, just too stuck and pushed), her B4s here seem pretty nice too. I won't say she is a low average, she is more around mid. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsabar 245 Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, GetRapper said: Many on Twitter are saying that now that Huh Yunjin is now debuting with LE SSERAFIM that she is already one of the best 4th Gen gg vocalists, is there a good analysis of her vocal abilities online anywhere or any good examples to back this up? She is pretty overhyped, her mix is not as solid as the better vocalists of this gen (sound more on the stuck and limited side above A4 to me) and her opera stuff is way too uncoordinated for what she tries to do. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsabar 245 Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 (edited) 45 minutes ago, Eremit said: Am I missing any big groups? Big groups only ? Purple kiss have Goeun who is around her level more or less, Yuri too, Monday is better than her, and that's it ?maybe there are other one or two averages I am missing. Edited April 9, 2022 by Tsabar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsabar 245 Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 5 minutes ago, BAZISSINO said: Not sure if it just me but the search option doesn't work no more since the last website update ,they added a couple of more advanced options but I don't think it operational yet I can still use the search option on my computer but on my phone there is the new thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsabar 245 Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 7 hours ago, Ti Na said: Xếp hạng và hát hỗ trợ của cô ấy là gì? Jinju, ca sĩ đầu tiên của JYP I think you will get more replies if you write in english (you can use google translate for help if you need)... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsabar 245 Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 4 hours ago, RATY said: What do you think of this performance by Seungmin Stray kids? @4.44 @4.48 F#4 @5.02 F4 I don't like it, In the finally he dropped his support. @5.09 F4 This one sounds better @5.16 F4 Again, he dropped the support This was one of the performances I linked when I asked about him a few weeks ago, what zrh said about his F4s in general is that they can carry support but are beyond stuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsabar 245 Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 3 hours ago, BAZISSINO said: @Tsabar Thank youuu ! I actually thought to showcase it but I didn't have time (bcoz of exam season lol). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsabar 245 Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, sergel said: Might have been posted but ChoA recently went on Immortal Song 2 Yay they finally published those performances on youtube, I watched this episode when it aired like a month ago (not really a month Lol) and for some reason they didn't upload it till now. Edited May 7, 2022 by Tsabar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsabar 245 Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 22 minutes ago, Tsukimono said: Isn't it 1) Lena then 2) Sohyang since Lena supports her HV higher? I could be wrong there Lena is quite overrated in head voice, her consistency end around Bb5 (at her best she did fine up to D6) and she is not as resonant as some more advanced head voice users. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsabar 245 Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 1 hour ago, RATY said: I agree, Sohyang head voice is lacking fullness It light and floats mostly but her support is generally pretty strong and no problem, sometimes she can show fuller sometimes. Yes,I see E5-A5 Lina has more fullness than Luna but I think Bb5 Her is really good I didn't really see the fullness of her head voice in the 5th Octave (except when she was young), it floated more than Luna 1.32 E5 3.00 G5 3.23 Bb5 4.22 G5 2.01 A5 2.43 G5 If what I'm hearing isn't wrong I think Luna has more coordination in her head voice and as I said Shannon can support it even higher. Someone can correct me if I am wrong but in the first performance you link Luna seem relatively bright and light, the second one isn't much different too, I don't think that its above Shannon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsabar 245 Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 2 hours ago, RATY said: I don't follow her, I don't really like her singing Do you have any material that shows that she consistency to just Bb5 ? I think she is consistent up to C#6/D6 but now she doesn't go to 6th octave I also don't follow her that closely, but I am speaking from what was discussed in the thread many times. Lena's head voice is pretty much on the thin side, already in the 5th octave, and at the moment she goes to the 6th octave there is an obvious quality shift to a much thinner and essentially squeezed sound, at her best you could argue she did the bare minimum you can do to get credited up to C6-D6 range, but it is the bare minimum, and I believe it was said she was never quite consistent with it and that she lost some of it in recent years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsabar 245 Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 1 hour ago, BabyKBK said: The line up for 2022 New festival JTBC! Lena Park Ailee Big Mama Kyuhyun Solji Gidle vocal group Liking that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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