Tsabar 245 Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, UrmiUndone said: Heard that Step Back song. The AESPA girls added nothing and tbh they should have sent Ningning and Giselle instead. Too whiny overall but Giselle is an interesting rapper. Why are you posting this in the vocal thread and not in the salty complaining thread ? I am asking seriously, it have nothing to do with vocals and will just get you clowned... 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsabar 245 Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 20 hours ago, DoraemoNobita said: Opinion of this guy? A 17 yo contestant of X Factor Indonesia 2021/22 Singing starts at 3:07....a lot of 5th octave notes Speaking voice at 0:13, 1:38 What he is doing is so cool lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsabar 245 Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 (edited) 20 hours ago, BAZISSINO said: You said you're a BoA stan so can you maybe provide some recent live clips ? I am not a stan but I will try to see what I can find from recent years: 2:12 A4, 2:50 A4 2:06 B4, 2:59 B4, 3:12 B4, 3:20 B4 1:19 B4, 2:13 A4, 2:33 B4, 2:56 sustained C5, 3:06 C5 3:17 C5, 4:55 C5-sustained Bb4, 6:09 sustained Bb4, 6:28 C5 3:23 B4 2:33 Bb4-B4 2:43 C5 Edited January 6, 2022 by Tsabar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsabar 245 Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 8 minutes ago, BAZISSINO said: Most of the belted C5s seems fine as well ? she can be rough but seem supported. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsabar 245 Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 4 minutes ago, spicyhips said: I thought Choa was low average (around IU level) did she improve? No she is still low average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsabar 245 Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 3 hours ago, AngelaonMars said: I understand that to a lot of people, it's not a big change. But to me, someone who has followed her career closely for almost 20 years, it's very obvious that her voice has regressed. Like I listened to her GOT album and her Kiss My Lips album and there were a big difference in the quality of her voice for me. It's not bad now, don't get me wrong I still enjoy listening to her. I'm just not sure the increase in raspiness and the change in timbre are because of stylistic choices or a regression over time? I don't think the raspiness and the thinner tone were intentional. She was overworked for really long time and I knew she talked about feeling burned out before releasing Hurricane Venus (that album was the mark of regression for me), and she was the type of performers that focus more on dancing training than vocal training, so maybe because of that that her voice has changed? She has still got the same head voice lows and the same limit at mix, whatever there is a change to a more unpleasant timber to your taste/more raspiness or not won't change the fact that she is safely above Winter and Seulgi nowadays unlike what some say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsabar 245 Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 6 hours ago, exodus05 said: Chen and kyungsoo I'm not sure with baekhyun You are not sure about Baekhyun ? As far as I know (Someone can correct me if I am wrong) in a mid belting range he resonant more consistently than Kyungsoo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsabar 245 Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 13 hours ago, aeridreamin said: IMO she has support, is just shallow. In G#4/A4 she starts to elevate her larynx and close her throat, but she still has some groundness in this area. Anything above is strained, nasal and tight. lol she is a soprano, even if she doesn't support above G#4/A4 it doesn't mean she start to close her throat this low or that anything above it will be strained and tight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsabar 245 Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 (edited) Thoughts on Wheein's recent performance ? 2:59 phrased C5, 3:08 sustained C5, 3:32 she didn't belt the D5 this time Edited January 23, 2022 by Tsabar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsabar 245 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 48 minutes ago, noprinterjustfax said: Low key unfair to use that Crying performance for Soyou, she was mad sick during that performance, and it was obvious. She sound quite similar to that in masked singer and in some of her covers... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsabar 245 Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 5 minutes ago, probee said: And Rainbow's Hyunyoung or she is inactive too? I think that she still do some covers and stuff, not a lot though. (She sounds average to me nowadays but I might be wrong) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsabar 245 Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 1 hour ago, RATY said: Why is kei rank so high?, I don't remember her ever building Resonance. From when is resonance a requirement for A-AA ? or even for AA... 2 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsabar 245 Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 @ZRH23 I know that he is a total clown and all of that but I still want to ask, is what he is saying here about open vs closed throat true ? or is it just him messing up terms ? 3:10-4:00 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsabar 245 Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 16 minutes ago, BAZISSINO said: Not auntie eunmi on begin again What's the problem ? lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsabar 245 Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 32 minutes ago, Reckittsia said: It seems like Ahmin changed his mind about V being a baritone. But "Hwanhee is definitely a dramatic tenor" ... 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsabar 245 Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 11 hours ago, MightyBee said: also what's up with the snarky comments, I guess you cant have a different opinions on how I would rank a singer's abilities. I mean... you are just not making sense lol, I saw in the past comments of ppl who disagree with how Baz/the blog rank singers, but they said what they said with some sort of ideology behind it, doesn't seem to be the case with you. No a soprano will not -always- rank above a lower female voice type. First of all, bcoz not all sopranos will for sure support higher than a mezzo/contralto, Lee Jiyoung is a mezzo who can handle C5s, can Rose/Nayeon/Jongyeon/Jihyo (who are all high sopranos) do it ? no. Second of all, bcoz lower voices are noted as being lower placed and therefore aren't expected to do the same as higher ones, there is different standard for each voice type, for sopranos, for mezzos and for contraltos. And don't even let me start with your "born with potential" thing, a lot of singers faced major improvements thanks to hard work. What will you say about that ? I mean, maybe they just pressed the pokemon evolution switch they were born with ? 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsabar 245 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 @ZRH23 So I wondered whats Cheryl Porter's level, she seem to have a kinda old school approach with less brightness and a lot of focus on the 4th octave but still she seem to handle up to C5-D5 area fine in mix, her mid belts can have some roundness and fullness, and she have a quite full head voice, based on this videos where would you place her in the AA and up area ? 1:11 head voice D5-E5, 2:21 A4 1:44 Eb5, 1:49 Eb5, 2:21 D5-B4, 2:26 D5, 2:28 F#5 in upper, 2:51 C6 in upper 0:01-0:10 C#5s and A4s, 0:11 E5, 0:21 F5 head voice, 0:23 Bb5, 0:28 G#5, 0:35-0:54 sustained B4s and phrased C#5s 3:37 C5 2:58 head voice D5, 3:45 C5, 3:56 C5 3:27 C5 4:07 A4 Sorry if its to many clips, you don't have to listen to all of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsabar 245 Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 1 minute ago, DDiddy said: I really think Yuqi from (G)-Idle is such an underrated singer. What do y'all think? Is she good? Technique wise ? she is not too impressive or good, at her best some G4-A4 are passable but even in this range tension is not unusual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsabar 245 Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 (edited) On 2/19/2022 at 9:14 PM, BAZISSINO said: 2:25 @Tsabar i knew they teach but i never knew who's their students ( it funny cause i know a non korean who also took lessons with her ) I only found one student of Yona before, but she only does covers in youtube she didn't debut yet, so its nice to have some names finally, is any of those singers a standout though ? (I guess Changsub is, tbh honnest Yona strike me as someone who will focus on stylstic delivery more than correct technique when teaching, but I could be wrong). Oh its cool that you know someone who studied under her. Edited February 20, 2022 by Tsabar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsabar 245 Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 41 minutes ago, ZRH23 said: A bit disappointed ngl. The thickness of her voice sounds a bit artificial, XTina style sort of. She does have some support in the 5th octave but there's no real roundness at any point, it's mostly just bright and an open vowel but not a truly open throat kinda sound. Those C5s in The Prayer really showcased that. Her head voice is nice though yeah. AA ish sounds about right. Thanks for replying ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsabar 245 Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Igsv said: Can anyone tell and know what the supported range of Big Mama's Lee JiYoug is? I am actually working on a range video of her, from what I am hearing she usually does fine around F#3-B4/C5-E5, I am not sure about the lows coz those can be fairly inconsistent, also, her mix can get rough above Bb4 when not well rested (but thats not always the case). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsabar 245 Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 6 hours ago, Igsv said: F#3 for a mezzo isn't very good, is it? The best sopranos support F#3/G3 I thought she would be better in head voice, but I believe an E5 is ok, although she seems to have F5-G#5 in head voice/falsetto which are good or easily reached. Would she be average or above average? Shin Yeona is better than her or both are the same level? Oh, she does have some passable F5s in head it seems, I am just being safe with it for now until I finish the video. She would be atleast above average. I am not sure about who is better between her and Yona, if both are mezzos like I think than Yona may have the edge due to having a more consistent handle on the lower 5th octave ? idk for sure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsabar 245 Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 42 minutes ago, ParkHyoLee said: Is OH struggling- You mean it doesn't work well ? It works fine for me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsabar 245 Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 1 hour ago, NMSyamin said: Damn she's sound so good Even more... Where does she places in vocal ranking? Baz have her in his chart, she is low/low to mid AA. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsabar 245 Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 1 hour ago, ZRH23 said: better than all the competents Inclouding Minhye ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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