Official fromis_9 Thread | Where Flovers promise now, cherish it dearly! | The MEMENTO BOX is OPENED on June 27th

[satoori]

[#Chaeyoung] This is the Neatherlands #PhotoByKko #TheWeather #IsTheBest #

[#Jiheon] The 3rd and 4th photo are done by heon 

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[satoori]

Today is really hot,, Hope you have a good weekend, flover❤

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[taenguri]

Hey flovers...so awards season is FINALLY happening which I couldn't be happier about since I don't like most of the girls' badges lol

is there anyone who would be interested in OPing? I've got some suggestions ready and I've made a few mocks hehe

The information is all here;

 

[satoori]

I'm not interested, but I'll support whoever is interested.

[satoori]

[#Jisun IG] Enjoy your first weekend of May

 

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[#Jisun IG] It's me, I'm the 1000th post

[Didact Taleh]

Well, looks like BP is having a comeback in mid-June. OTR either needs to throw their hat into the mix or wait until July/August, by which time I bet groups that promoted in January to early April will start having their second round of comebacks.

Sometimes it feels like OTR's handling of fromis is comparable to handling/steering a yacht like it was a freighter.

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[satoori]

At this point, what are OTR plans for fromis future, will they continue to do one Korean comeback a year...

@Didact Taleh You're right, everyone who had early comebacks this year will be returning eventually.

If we get only a single, I'm going to be lowkey pissed. At least give us a mini album. f*ck!

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[taenguri]

if no one else is interested in OPing, I'm happy to do it!

4 hours ago, Didact Taleh said:

Sometimes it feels like OTR's handling of fromis is comparable to handling/steering a yacht like it was a freighter.

why is this so funny hfdsa

[Didact Taleh]

@beram Go for it.

[Didact Taleh]

I know covid threw a wrench in a lot of plans, and maybe OTR is sticking more or less to their original Korean comeback schedule, but I think that shows, (as with their listlessness during the IS investigation), at least partially, that they find it difficult to respond/adapt to contingencies.

If OTR deemed it more profitable, and better for fromis, to begin splitting time between and Japan and Korea that's fine, but circumstances being what they are, I think it could be a chance for fromis to establish a solid name for themselves in Korea, if OTR proves me wrong and is capable of shifting gears.

Also, if OTR keeps doing singles (and one cb per yr) for fromis, that would leave me disgruntled for sure. (And if that were indicative of OTR already looking to a post-IZ group, it would definitely leave me fuming.)

For now, I'll assume that OTR is following their original KR schedule, more or less, and maybe they'll manage to surprise us and do something for fromis in the fall. Wishful thinking maybe, but we'll see.

[satoori]

I support @beram

 

 

[satoori]

38 minutes ago, Didact Taleh said:

I know covid threw a wrench in a lot of plans, and maybe OTR is sticking more or less to their original Korean comeback schedule, but I think that shows, (as with their listlessness during the IS investigation), at least partially, that they find it difficult to respond/adapt to contingencies.

If OTR deemed it more profitable, and better for fromis, to begin splitting time between and Japan and Korea that's fine, but circumstances being what they are, I think it could be a chance for fromis to establish a solid name for themselves in Korea, if OTR proves me wrong and is capable of shifting gears.

Also, if OTR keeps doing singles (and one cb per yr) for fromis, that would leave me disgruntled for sure. (And if that were indicative of OTR already looking to a post-IZ group, it would definitely leave me fuming.)

For now, I'll assume that OTR is following their original KR schedule, more or less, and maybe they'll manage to surprise us and do something for fromis in the fall. Wishful thinking maybe, but we'll see.

Absolutely agree with everything you said!

I think one reason OTR is not able to adapt is because they don't have enough in-house staff, specifically those needed for comeback preparations. (Producer team, productions, creative team, choreographers, and etc.) OTR probably relying on others outside of the company, which is fine, but it can make it hard to adapt at the last minute. It seems OTR have plenty of in-house staff for marketing base on all the fan content we get. And fromis constantly on sns. Someone is giving them good PR advice in communications.

Also - Either the main company Stone/CJ are not giving them money or OTR is suppose to be independent from the main company, meaning OTR themselves don't have enough for more than one comeback right now. They already put money into the Japanese debut, however plans were cancelled due to Covid. So that's a loss financially. Fromis has not did anything to make any money. I wish OTR would work hard on trying get the members individual activities. CFs, variety, etc. They don't have to be a group to make money for th group. While they're not promoting as a group they could be doing other work individually.

[Didact Taleh]

@satoori I think you're right. OTR, it seems, has never been self-sufficient.

Double-agree on the need for the girls' individual activities. I find it hard to believe that at least some people at OTR don't have ins with entertainment execs/producers.

I've been thinking about the possibility that OTR's strategy is D.I.Y.ing or indie-izing fromis, especially if Seoyeon's studio stuff is anything to go by. (I, for one, would've liked them to have the girls do more of that kind of stuff earlier, but the past is the past.) If they are going that way they NEED an online merch store, at least with shirts and pins at the beginning. Getting printed band t-shirts to sell isn't that hard or expensive, especially for a Kpop agency. Even if they aren't going for DIYfrom, I still think it would be a good idea to make money, without having to worry so much about album production cost and sales. I bet they could get Hot Topic to carry their merch in the US if they really wanted to.

Anyway, yeah, I would buy fromis t-shirts and a hoodie if they had a merch store...

[satoori]

39 minutes ago, Didact Taleh said:

@satoori I think you're right. OTR, it seems, has never been self-sufficient.

Double-agree on the need for the girls' individual activities. I find it hard to believe that at least some people at OTR don't have ins with entertainment execs/producers.

I've been thinking about the possibility that OTR's strategy is D.I.Y.ing or indie-izing fromis, especially if Seoyeon's studio stuff is anything to go by. (I, for one, would've liked them to have the girls do more of that kind of stuff earlier, but the past is the past.) If they are going that way they NEED an online merch store, at least with shirts and pins at the beginning. Getting printed band t-shirts to sell isn't that hard or expensive, especially for a Kpop agency. Even if they aren't going for DIYfrom, I still think it would be a good idea to make money, without having to worry so much about album production cost and sales. I bet they could get Hot Topic to carry their merch in the US if they really wanted to.

Anyway, yeah, I would buy fromis t-shirts and a hoodie if they had a merch store...

Hmm maybe. Tho A full-time DIY type group in Kpop would be a first. For one, that gives the idols a lot of control and less dependent on the company. At most companies let groups have a bit of creative control in music. When they get older, like 5 years in, might be able to have some say in concepts, album designs and styling. But again this not common, especially for girl groups. From my years in Kpop, I noticed companies love control. They don't have to have all of it but they like the majority. And merchandise are created for concerts, fanmeetings, or other fan content like Season Greetings, etc. Almost always the company invest in this. Sometimes let members design some piece but that's about it.

Personally I don't want fromis to do every single thing by themselves. That's stressful and could make time between comebacks even longer. The purpose of being under a company is for groups to have the staff, resources, and connections to manage a them sufficiently. So I want OTR to their job. No excuses. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt that the Covid made things difficult this year, but I'm expecting better in 2021. 

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[Didact Taleh]

@satoori Sorry, I was being unclear about my use of DIY. I didn't mean to say for the girls to do everything. I meant that OTR could actually behave like an indy label and allow the girls to participate, get involved, and incur responsibility in the creative and music production process. The onus of the heavy lifting would rightly be on OTR as such, because that is their job. But I don't think it's beyond the pale to have them write most of their songs, at least for minis. 

As for the merch, I understand that they invest in commemorative products. What I was trying to point out, I guess, is that a dedicated online merch store provides continuous revenue that doesn't depend on promotional/special events. They wouldn't even have to come up with new designs right away either, just stamp already existing logos and designs on stuff. Most of the profit from that would still go to OTR.

If OTR is low on resources for fromis, they gotta make due with what they've got, and they have at least 3 potentially very talented songwriters. And I maintain that online merch store is a relatively low-cost way to make some revenue.

Anyway, these are all hypotheticals in my head, and very likely a far reach from reality, but it's interesting to think about, at least. 

I too want OTR to do their job well and diligently.

[satoori]

@Didact Taleh. Yea that makes more sense! Something like that might could work.

I'm  not sure how much OTR/fromis would actually make off of the merchandise, since the fandom is so small. OTR might end up spending more producing the product and paying the manufacture cost, BUT a online store in general is something they could consider for the future once they start having more events. Many K-companies have them too. 

I agree OTR should include the members more in producing! More songs!

Next year OTR should consider doing more fanmeets once Covid is over. Fromis might not be able to hold a concert tour yet, but they have enough songs and fans for fanmeets. Ticket fees and fanmeet merchandise is quick money. Maybe we can get a light stick also!

[satoori]

05/04/2020 Hayoung fancafe

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Hello it's Hayoung, I miss you my flover!! It's already May!! It's the happy family month. The weather also has gotten a lot hotter, the flower and grass smell has gotten stronger too. What do you think about a season where morning comes early and night comes late? Sounds good right? Spend this holiday happily with your family. How about give a call to family and friends that you've missed!! I hope that this May will be full of laughter for everyone. And tomorrow is Children's Day!!!!! I pray that our cool and beautiful young friends will grow as someone who's healthy, cool, and brave!!! Also to all the children!!! Sincerely, Happy Children's Dayㅎㅎ. When I was younger, I was really happy whenever it was Children's Day. I've had wonderful memories on Children's Day, and I hope our young friends will be the same!!! Today is the day where I really miss you flover. Please don't be sick, and always be healthy. Make sure to wear a mask whenever you go out, and also wash your hands for more then 30 second when you comeback. I'll pray for everyone's happiness, love you my flover. My really precious flover!!!!

 

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[satoori]

Jiheon Instagram

 #Jiheon #WhileLookingThrough #MyAlbum

 

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[taenguri]

Hayoung IG post

"May is good May is good

#Hayoung#ChildrensDay#Congrats!!"

WHY IS SHE SO CUTEEEEEE

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[satoori]

[#Gyuri Twt] Happy Birthday Children's Day

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[satoori]

 

[taenguri]

I still need 3 more supporters to start the badge voting process, but I don't wanna leave it too long. If I can't get them in this thread by tomorrow, I'll ask some staff/awards members who also like fromis to support so we can get this going ASAP

 

[satoori]

8 minutes ago, beram said:

I still need 3 more supporters to start the badge voting process, but I don't wanna leave it too long. If I can't get them in this thread by tomorrow, I'll ask some staff/awards members who also like fromis to support so we can get this going ASAP

 

I guess, we will have time for a wild card round if fromis release new photos for their next comeback.

[taenguri]

6 minutes ago, satoori said:

I guess, we will have time for a wild card round if fromis release new photos for their next comeback.

yep, that's what I was thinking. I wrote up a rough schedule and made sure to leave room in case new pics are released

[Cassalis]

6 hours ago, beram said:

I still need 3 more supporters to start the badge voting process, but I don't wanna leave it too long. If I can't get them in this thread by tomorrow, I'll ask some staff/awards members who also like fromis to support so we can get this going ASAP

 

I support you.