masakio 6,815 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 this is something I've been thinking about after seeing all the vitriol directed at JYP, a producer who has many hits under his belt but is prone to the occasional mess. I don't really notice idol producers getting much flack from their fandom if the group decides to promote with a song composed by them. Let's be honest, there are some pretty mediocre idol compositions that were neither good songs nor successful with the public it's just interesting to me that producers like JYP, Brave Brothers, etc are targeted with so much hate if their song for a group doesn't meet expectations. yet fandoms are ok with their idols releasing bad songs if it's composed by one of the members Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PongPing 110 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 same but why do i feel like you lowkey made this thread to get JYP hate... anyways stream this bop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masakio 6,815 Posted May 21, 2017 Author Share Posted May 21, 2017 same but why do i feel like you lowkey made this thread to get JYP hate... anyways stream this bop I don't know how you got that from my post. If anything, I'm defending JYP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livinglifeonpause 388 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 *excuse you!!* are you implying Boom Boom isn't a bop?? haha, i think alot of it is just the freedom of choice. There's a difference between being being assigned a shitty song to perform, or respecting an idol who put their all into a song even if it turns out shitty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAE AMO 4,848 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 because fandoms will obviously be nicer with a member of their fave group? they're biased towards them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masakio 6,815 Posted May 21, 2017 Author Share Posted May 21, 2017 because fandoms will obviously be nicer with a member of their fave group? they're biased towards them... so what you're telling me is that these idols need to be babied and can't handle constructive criticism? *excuse you!!* are you implying Boom Boom isn't a bop?? haha, i think alot of it is just the freedom of choice. There's a difference between being being assigned a shitty song to perform, or respecting an idol who put their all into a song even if it turns out shitty. boom boom is terrible. it shouldn't even exist. about your second point, wouldn't that be even more infuriating for some members. like, they could've promoted a better song but had to settle with their member's composition because they want the glory of being called an idol producer. I used to stan cnblue and ngl I always wondered if lee jonghyun hated yonghwa because they always promoted yonghwa's basic ass title tracks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Full Moon 7,229 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Companies should follow Bighit steps tbvh They let them practice with bsides and even then a lot of times their work is not accepted through the house producers. You let them practice until they can be self produced idols like Suga who most of the times creates masterpiece like his solo or his mixtape Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogyeom 136 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 i notice this too but it makes sense bc a lot of fans love everything their faves do so if an idol composes/writes a song the fans still praise it even if the song isn't that great. i think it's also bc the fans feel more connected (?) to the song, since one of the group members made it instead of an in-house/company or other producer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livinglifeonpause 388 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 so what you're telling me is that these idols need to be babied and can't handle constructive criticism? boom boom is terrible. it shouldn't even exist. BUMZU & Woozi's bank accounts say differently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquamaraqua 4,293 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Honestly though I can't name one Brave Brothers song or JYP song that I can call an actual masterpiece. Also fandoms are prone to defend their faves, of course they won't give flack to their faves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadBadNotGood 11,616 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 I've seen this scenario a few times. Person A shits all over a badly produced song Person B tells person A that it was produced by the idols. Person A doesn't respond back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black.Pink 619 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 can't really relate because YG artists create masterpieces! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masakio 6,815 Posted May 21, 2017 Author Share Posted May 21, 2017 i notice this too but it makes sense bc a lot of fans love everything their faves do so if an idol composes/writes a song the fans still praise it even if the song isn't that great. i think it's also bc the fans feel more connected (?) to the song, since one of the group members made it instead of an in-house/company or other producer yeah I think it's kind of foolish though. if they're song isn't good or doing well on the charts, someone needs to tell them. I used to stan cnblue and I honestly think one of the reasons for their decline was because no one ever tried to tell Yonghwa that his songs were really basic and repetitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Full Moon 7,229 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 can't really relate because YG artists create masterpieces! yeah i dont know about that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remembering 7,109 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 One: fans are way more lenient with their faves. Two: free shitty song made by members vs. Paid for shitty song Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holywater hyung 5,718 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Fans are biased against their idols, it's an obvious reason. Imo a lot of idols compositions are snooze-fest. But hey, at least they are willing to learn little by little. Personally i like woozi's and jinyoung's songs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STORM 7,555 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 It's mostly bc fans of the member who produced the song get all butthurt if you say anything bad about the song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAE AMO 4,848 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 so what you're telling me is that these idols need to be babied and can't handle constructive criticism? i don't think they need to be babied, but fandoms will baby them anyway because they feel like they should Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
í™©ì œë‹˜ 팬 4,702 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 yeah I think it's kind of foolish though. if they're song isn't good or doing well on the charts, someone needs to tell them. I used to stan cnblue and I honestly think one of the reasons for their decline was because no one ever tried to tell Yonghwa that his songs were really basic and repetitive. I've never stanned cnblue but i still think yonghwa's songs were actually good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yeongwon 2,631 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 yeeeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordNoodles 10 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Companies should follow Bighit steps tbvh They let them practice with bsides and even then a lot of times their work is not accepted through the house producers. You let them practice until they can be self produced idols like Suga who most of the times creates masterpiece like his solo or his mixtape I have a one big gripe against BigHit, is that they failed GLAM, and then dropped them once BTS started to become popular, yet kept them in tons of debt, resulting in that blackmailing incident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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