Jack Dawson 106 Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 I am asking this question because I recalled an incident with Hyoyeon that I want to use as an example. I am not sure if this is true. But I heard that on SNSD's album OH! Hyoyeon's face was cut out either by the CD hole or something else. Fans apparently complained to SM about this and the album was fixed and redistributed with a copy in which Hyoyeon's face was intact. If fans were able to cause a change with and incident like that, I wonder if they could also affect music decisions too. What I would like to know is: What can Korean EXO fans do about the title tracks EXO has been receiving? Do you guys think its possible that if fans just don't accept the song as bad and actually let SM know they think its bad, then SM might be more careful with their title tracks? Maybe if we all write letters to SM and tell them to just let EXO have a normal song without extra sounds and effects for a title track, maybe they would oblige.. especially if its K fans I know people like amazing perfomances and interesting songs, but I don't mind a regular song with a normal dance. I like EXO for the tone of their voices. I can barely recognize their voices in that song. I would rather them have a song like 9Muses' Wild. 9 girls and they still all managed to all get a part to sing. I just want a title song like that from EXO. I song that focuses on their voices..... I don't want all that EXTRA stuff just a normal song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skibop!! 8,585 Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 Spam their mentions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h0neanias 13,516 Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 Korean or international fans? Because if they throw foreigners out of comeback shows, I don't see them giving much of a fuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candykiss 2,124 Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 No fans = no $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ I would say alot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Girls'Generation 88 Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 yes i think it is possible! i've wanted to boycott sm for a while now. but the truth is, they are rich. i feel like if i boycott or don't buy a single/album then the artists (the ones i care about in this situation) are the ones that would suffer, not sm. if that makes sense... but what do you mean has been receiving...only wolf is bad. history and what is love are perfect. and songs like angel...oh mama was alright. wolf is 100% bad. i don't think fans need to complain for sm to know obviously someone squeakily saying 'ah saranghaeyo' in the back of a song is just not good. they must be doing some hardcore drugs over at sm cause wolf is inexcusable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Dawson 106 Posted May 30, 2013 Author Share Posted May 30, 2013 Korean or international fans? Because if they throw foreigners out of comeback shows, I don't see them giving much of a fuck. KOREAN FANS We know they don't like the song either... but will they do something about it??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanah- 1,839 Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 None because fans will buy everything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChYkN 743 Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 Korean or international fans? Because if they throw foreigners out of comeback shows, I don't see them giving much of a fuck. lol ikr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmn 2,622 Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 Not sure if serious or trolling. The companies are obviously already producing songs that they think are what the fans want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chesskid1<3 857 Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 kdramas change entire storylines based on netizen comments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Dawson 106 Posted May 30, 2013 Author Share Posted May 30, 2013 yes i think it is possible! i've wanted to boycott sm for a while now. but the truth is, they are rich. i feel like if i boycott or don't buy a single/album then the artists (the ones i care about in this situation) are the ones that would suffer, not sm. if that makes sense... but what do you mean has been receiving...only wolf is bad. history and what is love are perfect. and songs like angel...oh mama was alright. wolf is 100% bad. i don't think fans need to complain for sm to know obviously someone squeakily saying 'ah saranghaeyo' in the back of a song is just not good. they must be doing some hardcore drugs over at sm cause wolf is inexcusable. U don't have to boycott SM Just let them know that you don't want songs like that for your Biases... That's my thing. None because they will buy everything? I meant more in terms of writing a letter to SM to let them know. I honestly think that SM thinks Wolf is a neat interesting song...I wanna tell them no its not good....no one ever tells them when a song is bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Girls'Generation 88 Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 U don't have to boycott SM Just let them know that you don't want songs like that for your Biases... That's my thing. I meant more in terms of writing a letter to SM to let them know. I honestly think that SM thinks Wolf is a neat interesting song...I wanna tell them no its not good....no one ever tells them when a song is bad. but then sm would maybe take it as 'oh. nobody likes exo anymore since they're not buying the songs. okay exo disband' you know? instead of 'okay, we obviously need to get better producers and give exo better music and promote them more' that's my fear. also, then exo would be behind other rookie groups like vixx and bap and i don't want that either. i want to be able to brag about their sales so people know they ARE popular and they ARE relevant. it's conflicting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chunface 3,496 Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 i wish we could do something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Dawson 106 Posted May 30, 2013 Author Share Posted May 30, 2013 but then sm would maybe take it as 'oh. nobody likes exo anymore since they're not buying the songs. okay exo disband' you know? instead of 'okay, we obviously need to get better producers and give exo better music and promote them more' that's my fear. also, then exo would be behind other rookie groups like vixx and bap and i don't want that either. i want to be able to brag about their sales so people know they ARE popular and they ARE relevant. it's conflicting. Well that's why I was saying we can still support EXO and buy their music but let SME know preferably via letters from K fans that we don't want EXO to have songs like that. Let them know we still love EXO but please don't experiment by giving them purposely bad title tracks kdramas change entire storylines based on netizen comments This leads me to believe fans could change SM's decisions on Title tracks too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lepidoptery 2,917 Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 The only thing to do is to buy SM stock until your opinion matters as a shareholder. Either Elves or Cassies did this, I think. I highly doubt writing letters matters a damn, if you're still going to buy the album/the album is still selling like hotcakes. No fans = no $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ I would say alot Depending on a number of things--there's the rest of the album; fans are not going to refrain from buying the album just because the title track sucks, and if they do fansigns they're going to buy lots in order to see oppa. Korean fans are not going to boycott anything because I-fans got kicked out. The I-fans that didn't get kicked out can only be bothered to spare so much attention for it and aren't going to "punish" Exo by not buying their album anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Dawson 106 Posted May 30, 2013 Author Share Posted May 30, 2013 The only thing to do is to buy SM stock until your opinion matters as a shareholder. Either Elves or Cassies did this, I think. I highly doubt writing letters matters a damn, if you're still going to buy the album/the album is still selling like hotcakes. Depending on a number of things--there's the rest of the album; fans are not going to refrain from buying the album just because the title track sucks, and if they do fansigns they're going to buy lots in order to see oppa. Korean fans are not going to boycott anything because I-fans got kicked out. The I-fans that didn't get kicked out can only be bothered to spare so much attention for it and aren't going to "punish" Exo by not buying their album anyway. I am not talking at all about that m countdown thing I am just talking about getting EXO better title tracks. So do you think EXO fans in Korea could buy some SME stocks anytime soon? Maybe then they could protest EXO having strange title tracks. Also do you think EXO members could protest the next comeback song if its bad too? I just feel like everyone who cares about EXO is just letting this slide. The only thing is I am an international fan and I can't really affect much change on this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuackingDuck 826 Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 sm decision makers are a bunch of old men who have little idea what fans of boybands actually want. they'll keep doing what they do until exo stop showing profitability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinjiki 1,999 Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 95% of the reaction to Wolf was negative when it leaked and I'm sure SM found out about that but they didn't give a fuck and pressed on with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lepidoptery 2,917 Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 I am not talking at all about that m countdown thing I am just talking about getting EXO better title tracks. So do you think EXO fans in Korea could buy some SME stocks anytime soon? Maybe then they could protest EXO having strange title tracks. Also do you think EXO members could protest the next comeback song if its bad too? I just feel like everyone who cares about EXO is just letting this slide. The only thing is I am an international fan and I can't really affect much change on this... It does seem like most of the k-fans are... dissatisfied... with Wolf as well, but I would have no idea what the K-exo fans could be motivated to do. ^^;; Demographic-wise, I don't know if they're actually in a position to be buying stock. I'm not even sure they are that numerous (granted, it only take a few really rich fans, I suppose?) Yeah, I think ppl are letting it slide. They're letting themselves be convinced that Wolf is really not that bad! Maybe even good! A grower! (How about you just like songs you actually like, and don't force yourself, sheesh.) And especially since the rest of the album is not like Wolf. And they have the example of SuJu or whatever having meh title tracks but apparently decent non-title tracks on their albums as well, ie. a much bigger fandom just sucking it up and taking it. So. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gayness 2,400 Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 exo members needs to reject those songs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Dawson 106 Posted May 30, 2013 Author Share Posted May 30, 2013 It does seem like most of the k-fans are... dissatisfied... with Wolf as well, but I would have no idea what the K-exo fans could be motivated to do. ^^;; Demographic-wise, I don't know if they're actually in a position to be buying stock. I'm not even sure they are that numerous (granted, it only take a few really rich fans, I suppose?) Yeah, I think ppl are letting it slide. They're letting themselves be convinced that Wolf is really not that bad! Maybe even good! A grower! (How about you just like songs you actually like, and don't force yourself, sheesh.) And especially since the rest of the album is not like Wolf. And they have the example of SuJu or whatever having meh title tracks but apparently decent non-title tracks on their albums as well, ie. a much bigger fandom just sucking it up and taking it. So. But see SUJU title track Sexy free and single wasn't really that bad. WOLF is actually really bad. Its barely even a matter of opinion tbh. So I could see SUJU fans actually liking the song. 95% of the reaction to Wolf was negative when it leaked and I'm sure SM found out about that but they didn't give a fuck and pressed on with it. I can't believe they did that. Why use up so much money to promote EXO only to give them a really bad song. Is anyone in SM really safe. Is f(x) safe is SNSD safe...its quite concerning... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CookieCrisp 781 Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 nope all these big companies do not care about the opinions of the fans. however from my experience only the smaller companies care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Dawson 106 Posted May 30, 2013 Author Share Posted May 30, 2013 nope all these big companies do not care about the opinions of the fans. however from my experience only the smaller companies care. Why did they change Hyoyeons pic on that album then? Also I will never see the logic behind release a song like Wolf. It won't help them in anyway to make money. I just don't get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michigointomypants 15 Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 if they keep getting bank then fans have no influence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CookieCrisp 781 Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 Why did they change Hyoyeons pic on that album then? Also I will never see the logic behind release a song like Wolf. It won't help them in anyway to make money. I just don't get it. i dont know why since i dont pay attention to that. however i highly doubt these big companies care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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