redheart 7,440 Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 the first round of the elections is next sunday and there are 4 candidates that are dominating right now only 2 of them will remain after the first round this is nerve wrecking and I'm kinda really scared right now ever since the candidates started campaigning for the elections here there's been several twists and many candidates that were high in the polls ended up falling further down, some have risen up anyways my point is anything could change any moment nobody can be sure about the outcome of this election it stresses the hell out of me, I mean when I look at what happened in the UK and US tho Hillary won the popular vote and Trump only won cause of the electoral college and we don't have one here in France, that snake Marine Lepen her program is comparable to Trump's, she's like first or second depending on the polls if she does win I don't know what I would do tbh some y'all gonna say that I'm over reacting but I could end up being deported back to my home country because even if I have french citizenship I wasn't born here plus I'm gay and she ain't give no fucks about gay people and even if you look at the 2 other candidates that are high in the polls most of them will basically make working conditions worse and raise taxes to profit huge companies and rich people, they don't care about woman's right and let's not even talk about homosexuals and other minorities my only hope is Mélenchon let's compare him to Bernie he wants to transition from nuclear energy to more ecologic ones he wants to stop tax evasion, decrease the working hours to 32 hours per week he wants women to be paid just as much as men if they have the same job and much much more, I just feel like among all the 4 candidates on top of polls atm he's the only one that talk about things that really matters but a lot of people here just dismiss him because they think that his program is unrealistic anyways I ended rambling about the whole situation and I'm not professional so everything I said is approximative but I'm scared and all I wanna say is that they don't really care about us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ë°” í…€ 2,123 Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 no offense but France is kinda doomed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!SpammeR! 7,791 Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 OMG please don't let Marine Lepen win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweet Perfume 1,472 Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Don't vote for the ultra right canditate, France, please. She is a hypocrite bitch. Like Marine, girl if you did what you believe you'd be at home rising your kids, cleaning dirt and being hit by your dominating husband instead of politics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sakurahanabira 6,634 Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 who are the candidates for the election besides LePen? (I don't live in France) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mochichan 12,341 Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 I'm American but pray for y'all not electing Le Penn. Don't follow the stupid americans and elect your version of Trump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puellarum generatio 3,628 Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Marine will get to the 2nd round for sure, probably against Macron (equivalent to usa's democrats for those wondering). I'm voting Mélenchon anyway. I woundn't say Macron is making workers life worse, definitely not like Fillon, but he's ultraliberal (already a big negative point for me) and I really don't trust his person. He seems the fakest to me. if she does win I don't know what I would do tbh some y'all gonna say that I'm over reacting but I could end up being deported back to my home country because even if I have french citizenship I wasn't born here plus I'm gay and she ain't give no fucks about gay people That definitely won't happen, that's not her project. You know what ? Even if she get elected people will realize the fraud, she will never be elected again. That's 5 years to endure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anarchy OH 1,365 Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Don't vote for that hoe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puellarum generatio 3,628 Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 who are the candidates for the election besides LePen? (I don't live in France) LePen (far right) ~ 25% Macron (economic and social liberal - center) ~ 20/25% Mélenchon ( socialist/communist - left/far-left) ~ >15 % Fillon ( conservative - right/far-right) ~ <20% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delincious 5,654 Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Marine will get to the 2nd round for sure, probably against Macron (equivalent to usa's democrats for those wondering). I'm voting Mélenchon anyway. I woundn't say Macron is making workers life worse, definitely not like Fillon, but he's ultraliberal (already a big negative point for me) and I really don't trust his person. He seems the fakest to me. That definitely won't happen, that's not her project. You know what ? Even if she get elected people will realize the fraud, she will never be elected again. That's 5 years to endure. he isn't ultraliberal at all. He's liberal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puellarum generatio 3,628 Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 nvm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delincious 5,654 Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Actually he's "neoliberal". I misused the word "ultraliberal".neoliberal means everything and nothing. He's not.He's more social-liberal than anything. He has plans more liberal than the PS/left (like for his plans regarding Labour law and stuff) and also a lot of ideas from the left. His platform is built around Labour, which is very Marxist, but his idea of it is more balanced and want more power and flexibility for both the workforce and the businesses (although in practice it might not give more power to the workforce bc of the unemployment rates). But he also wants a lot of measures that are traditionally French socialist (which is his political upbringing anyway, and his detractors like to point out his support is looking a lot like hollande gvt), regarding healthcare, an equal system of retirement pensions, more help for students etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocumentaLy 6,033 Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Marine Le Pen will win. It's just the direction the world is going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsrewindit 2,704 Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 doesnt France has the shortest amount of working hours? and your preferred candidate still want to decrease the working hours to 32 hours per week??? will any business want to invest in France??????????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefacts 338 Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Le Pen will most likely win the election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redheart 7,440 Posted April 20, 2017 Author Share Posted April 20, 2017 That definitely won't happen, that's not her project. You know what ? Even if she get elected people will realize the fraud, she will never be elected again. That's 5 years to endure. that's not her project on paper but she said things before that suggest that it's what she really wants to do she want to categorise french people "les français de souche" those whose parent are both french, those who weren't born here etc nowadays she kinda watered down her stances because she wants to appeal to a larger audience and when it comes to Macron he doesn't necessarily want to make working conditions worse but when you look at what he did when he was still in the government he surely isn't a socialist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puellarum generatio 3,628 Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 that's not her project on paper but she said things before that suggest that it's what she really wants to do she want to categorise french people "les français de souche" those whose parent are both french, those who weren't born here etc nowadays she kinda watered down her stances because she wants to appeal to a larger audience and when it comes to Macron he doesn't necessarily want to make working conditions worse but when you look at what he did when he was still in the government he surely isn't a socialist ce que je veux dire est même si elle réussi à abolir le droit du sol, ceux qui ont déjà la nationalité la garderont Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sansansangou 5 Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 I like Mélenchon and I never understood why he never participated before, but better late than never, it's actually a very good sign of political maturity to wait until he is really needed and here he is : I think he's the only real marxist in the left , Holland and his clan are a joke, the whole world saw it after the recent terrorist attacks , Valls speeches were more of a politician from the right than Lepen herself . Anyways, from the sight of it, french people wouldn't let that greedy woman take over , besides the french electoral system is different from the US so you can't compare both and expect the same result. Mélenchon, on the other hand, is a bit infamous for his long time of silence, like you said , he reminds me of Bernie, but he has his tops and flops sometimes , he's more of a talker than a doer and it's a bit of a turn off. I like how he stood against the Khomri labour law it revealed a deep understanding of people's sufferings and needs and he succeeded in attracting a large number of supporters. Academics favour him as well so he has big chances. But we also have to take in consideration the world's new order . So I wouldn't be surprised if something unexpected happens in the last minute. I'm not french but I like french politics and discussions because they're very enlightening and France's issues today as a society are the same in many other societies around the world were it's forbidden to spell the tea upon such taboo subjects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUsus 303 Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Marine Le Pen will win. It's just the direction the world is going. le pen should win, people are realising that globalisation doesn't work especially when you include the cult of islam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m_allegretti 574 Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Sorry but I think you should accept that Le Pen is probably going to win, after which France will go into economic free fall as her plans get pushed. Brexit will make a vulnerable Britain follow suit, and from there global recession. It's not the ideal but don't put all your emotions into the election trying ignore the likely outcome of Le Pen's victory. If she doesn't win you'll be happy, and if she wins you won't be like those people crying/screeching on TV after Trump won. Hope for the best, prepare for the worst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deea 6,754 Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Ugh to all french people: Please,please go vote with someone who seems less evil than the bitches we have in the world right now,France is one of the most important countries in the world with power and right now anything bad could happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overthesuun 6 Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 I'm french and i still dont who i will choose Sunday .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemonicPotato 2,197 Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Le Pen has no shot at winning, like... Did you even follow he regional elections? Her party didn't win shit, if you weren't aware. She's going to be first in sunday, but she's not winning this. And I don't think Macron is either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raindraco 411 Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 Le Pen has no shot at winning, like... Did you even follow he regional elections? Her party didn't win shit, if you weren't aware. She's going to be first in sunday, but she's not winning this. And I don't think Macron is either. People said the same thing about Trump. people said the same thing about Brexit. Let's stop this thinking and take every threat to democracy seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delincious 5,654 Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 People said the same thing about Trump. people said the same thing about Brexit. Let's stop this thinking and take every threat to democracy seriously. they're very different systems but if you're so ignorant pls educate yourself and then try having an opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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