Why is Yoonseok popular?

[Kookoo]

Don't get me wrong, I loved Yoonseok before they suddenly got popular in 2016, but I think people exaggerate just how close they are.

To be fair, I feel the same about Yoonmin's popularity. Both these ships are so alike. It's the whole opposites-attract dynamic that people seem to love. 

Like I know Yoongi has a soft spot for JiHope

But for Yoonseok, it's not just romantic, people even call them best friends for some reason? I don't see it (I've been in the fandom since JAN 2015 btw) 

Hoseok seems to hang around the maknae line the most (mostly around Jimin it seems) and Yoongi likes being left alone.

So why are people putting them on the same level of closeness with Vmin? I don't think Yooonseok are THAT close.

 

And also, in the BTS Festa 2016, Hoseok said that he "respects" Yoongi but finds it "uncomfortable" being around him for too long. 

 

I love the ship but I don't get the whole "best friends" thing. I know SOPE and Hwagae Market have led to a lot more interactions between Yoonseok but I can't see Hoseok being besties with someone he isn't fully comfortable with...

 

EDIT:

Wow. Getting negged for stating an honest opinion. Way to go. It's so easy to trigger shippers.

Edited March 12, 2017 by Kookoo

[twices]

I agree they're not as close as some armys make them out to be. I think its because they have lots of interactions 

[ethereal]

it's fine to have a different opinion, but how can you think they aren't super close after suga called hobi his "soul partner" on hobi's birthday and hobi posted pictures of them from 2011-2017? i mean, i've never seen anyone saying they'e as close a vmin are friendwise, but it does seem like suga is closest to hobi in the group as of this moment in time. isn't the whole sope thing itself enough an indication of how close they are?

 

i just want to say, as a fan of them since pedebut, the group dynamics have shifted at certain points in time. people become closer, people drift, it's all natural. but we honestly can't speak much on the personal relationships because we don't know them personally. 

[UNTOLD minsoo]

It's because Yoongi's J-HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPE, he's showing a lot affection to Hobi lately.

[Jamoneitor]

Because their dynamics are awesome, they care about each other and Yoonseok fans are super nice so it's a cool fandom to chill with.

 

Also Soulpartners. 

[Kookoo]

it's fine to have a different opinion, but how can you think they aren't super close after suga called hobi his "soul partner" on hobi's birthday and hobi posted pictures of them from 2011-2017? i mean, i've never seen anyone saying they'e as close a vmin are friendwise, but it does seem like suga is closest to hobi in the group as of this moment in time. isn't the whole sope thing itself enough an indication of how close they are?

 

i just want to say, as a fan of them since pedebut, the group dynamics have shifted at certain points in time. people become closer, people drift, it's all natural. but we honestly can't speak much on the personal relationships because we don't know them personally. 

 

But Hoseok literally did the exact same picture thing for Taehyung's birthday? I didn't see anybody caring about it at that time? Yoongi probably considers Hoseok to be his closest friend in the group, but I've seen MANY people saying that after Vmin, Yoonseok are the closest. Like how on earth is Yoonseok closer than even Taekook and Jikook?

The Sope thing actually started because they were the two members with nothing to do, it was RM-JK, TAE-JIMIN, JIN and then SOPE happened.

That BTS FESTA 2016 quote is AFTER Sope's creation.

I'm not making assumptions, it's just that Hoseok is almost always fooling around with the maknes. I know Yoonseok are very close, it's just a stretch to call them the closest after Vmin. 

By words and actions, Hoseok seems to be closest to Jimin.

 

It's because Yoongi's J-HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPE, he's showing a lot affection to Hobi lately.

 

Haha ikr, I know sooooo many people who started shipping Yoonseok after that moment.

[Akhuun]

Yoonseok isn't even popular, it's nowhere near the level of VKook/YoonMin/Namjin or even VMin/SugaKookie. I absolutely adore this ship, for selfish reasons: I like seeing my bias happy and he seems the happiest with J-Hope. Could they interract more? Yeah, that wouldn't hurt. Should people stop shipping them because they don't interract as much as some other ship? Don't think so.

Edited March 12, 2017 by You Always Walk Alone

[Kookoo]

Yoonseok isn't even popular, it's nowhere near the level of VKook/YoonMin/Namjin or even VMin/SugaKookie. I absolutely adore this ship, for selfish reasons: I like seeing my bias happy and he seems the happiest with J-Hope. Could they interract more? Yeah, that wouldn't hurt. Should people stop shipping them because they don't interract as much as some other ship? Don't think so.

 

OMG please don't twist my words. This isn't even about shipping. I just think people make them out to be wayyyyy closer than they actually are. Especially with Hoseok's statement about him being uncomfy around Yoongi. 

Yoonseok are actually very popular now. More than Sugakookie. 

I think it goes like : taekook/jikook/yoonmin, vmin, namjin and yoonnseok

[DOOLY]

Why are you trying to decipher how close they are and what not based on the few moments we see on camera. You don't know them irl so you can't really talk about this stuff and try to pass your opinion as facts lol.

[Kookoo]

Why are you trying to decipher how close they are and what not based on the few moments we see on camera. You don't know them irl so you can't really talk about this stuff and try to pass your opinion as facts lol.

 

But it's a fact that Hoseok finds it uncomfortable being around Yoongi for too long?  He literally said it. I wouldn't say that about someone I considered to be my best friend.

[Akhuun]

OMG please don't twist my words. This isn't even about shipping. I just think people make them out to be wayyyyy closer than they actually are. Especially with Hoseok's statement about him being uncomfy around Yoongi. 

Yoonseok are actually very popular now. More than Sugakookie. 

I think it goes like : taekook/jikook/yoonmin, vmin, namjin and yoonnseok

 

Remember that none of us actually knows how close the members are in reality. You have your assumptions, other people have theirs. But this is what they are - just assumptions, yours aren't more valid than theirs and vice versa.

 

Yoonseok are actually very popular now. More than Sugakookie

 

 

I wish, but alright.

[Kookoo]

Remember that none of us actually knows how close the members are in reality. You have your assumptions, other people have theirs. But this is what they are - just assumptions, yours aren't more valid than theirs and vice versa.

 

 

I wish, but alright.

 

I'm not making assumptions. 

Hoseok literally said

"Hmm I really respect him but it's uncomfortable being around him for a long time"

 

Like...idk about you but I don't talk like that about people I consider to be my besties.

[ethereal]

But Hoseok literally did the exact same picture thing for Taehyung's birthday? I didn't see anybody caring about it at that time? Yoongi probably considers Hoseok to be his closest friend in the group, but I've seen MANY people saying that after Vmin, Yoonseok are the closest. Like how on earth is Yoonseok closer than even Taekook and Jikook?

The Sope thing actually started because they were the two members with nothing to do, it was RM-JK, TAE-JIMIN, JIN and then SOPE happened.

That BTS FESTA 2016 quote is AFTER Sope's creation.

I'm not making assumptions, it's just that Hoseok is almost always fooling around with the maknes. I know Yoonseok are very close, it's just a stretch to call them the closest after Vmin. 

By words and actions, Hoseok seems to be closest to Jimin.

you seem like you don't even want to understand why people think yoonseok are close tbh. also about that comment of hobi saying suga is uncomfortable to be around after a while, i think he clearly wasn't being serious? i mean, they've said before that suga is the type of person that talks a lot about the things he likes and can be boring (which i relate to because i'm like that). i think he meant it in that sense, not like he doesn't like to be around him.

 

anyway, it's not about the amount of moments that show closeness between the members, it's about the quality of each moments. i also don't like this incessant need to rank relationships... maknae line as a trio are the closest imo. yoonminseok as a trio are the second closest imo based on what we see. there's a whole other side to these dynamics that we'll never know about so don't act like your relationship rank is automatically right because we don't know, like i said. 

[Smile Hoya]

Here's something interesting.

 

 

Full post with all the members can be found here: BTS titles/name-calling reference, an extensive guide that took me approx. 3~ months to gather research for ;

 

 

Why are you trying to decipher how close they are and what not based on the few moments we see on camera. You don't know them irl so you can't really talk about this stuff and try to pass your opinion as facts lol.

 

^And this.

[Kookoo]

you seem like you don't even want to understand why people think yoonseok are close tbh. also about that comment of hobi saying suga is uncomfortable to be around after a while, i think he clearly wasn't being serious? i mean, they've said before that suga is the type of person that talks a lot about the things he likes and can be boring (which i relate to because i'm like that). i think he meant it in that sense, not like he doesn't like to be around him.

 

anyway, it's not about the amount of moments that show closeness between the members, it's about the quality of each moments. i also don't like this incessant need to rank relationships... maknae line as a trio are the closest imo. yoonminseok as a trio are the second closest imo based on what we see. there's a whole other side to these dynamics that we'll never know about so don't act like your relationship rank is automatically right because we don't know, like i said. 

 

No, it seems more like people aren't getting my question. I know Yoonseok are very close. I just think people make them out to be closer than they really are.

And I'm also pretty sure Hoseok was being serious, cuz he also said "I really respect him but..." 

 

It's like someone saying they think Taegi or Vhope are bestfriends after Vmin. Unrealistic. I'm not ranking them, it just seems a bit too much in my opinion. I may be VMinKook biased but even by ignoring that I think it's stupid to believe Yoonseok is closer than any of the maknae line relationships.

Most of the Yoonseok shippers only have "Yoongi is happiest around Hoseok" as their reason for shipping them (which is the exact same thing Yoonmin shippers give about Jimin)

I guess I'm just tired of the whole sunshine-meets-grumpy dynamic lovers.

[Candy k]

It's a fucking ship

Fans do it for fun, let them have it

[Aoipop]

Don't get me wrong, I loved Yoonseok before they suddenly got popular in 2016, but I think people exaggerate just how close they are.

To be fair, I feel the same about Yoonmin's popularity. Both these ships are so alike. It's the whole opposites-attract dynamic that people seem to love. 

Like I know Yoongi has a soft spot for JiHope

But for Yoonseok, it's not just romantic, people even call them best friends for some reason? I don't see it (I've been in the fandom since JAN 2015 btw) 

Hoseok seems to hang around the maknae line the most (mostly around Jimin it seems) and Yoongi likes being left alone.

So why are people putting them on the same level of closeness with Vmin? I don't think Yooonseok are THAT close.

 

And also, in the BTS Festa 2016, Hoseok said that he "respects" Yoongi but finds it "uncomfortable" being around him for too long. 

 

I love the ship but I don't get the whole "best friends" thing. I know SOPE and Hwagae Market have led to a lot more interactions between Yoonseok but I can't see Hoseok being besties with someone he isn't fully comfortable with...

 

EDIT:

Wow. Getting negged for stating an honest opinion. Way to go. It's so easy to trigger shippers.

 

Don't get me wrong, but the fact that people are exaggerating how close they are, is because it's true. In my opinion, I don't think Yoonseok and Yoonmin are alike at all, in fact, Yoongi and Jimin are not that much opposites compared to Hoseok. Both Yoongi and Jimin are more of a shy and mature type of person, just that Jimin tends to show kindness more often. Kindness is not a personality, it's a quality that everyone has, even if they show it more often or not. Because both Jimin and Yoongi have that similar shy trait, when they're together that's how they'll act. Notice that they're pretty relaxed around each other. When they're with Hoseok, notice that both Jimin and Yoongi, not just Yoongi, but Jimin too, tend to goof around with Hoseok because how can one ignore the sunshine.

 

Secondly, "Hoseok said he 'respects' Yoongi but finds it 'uncomfortable' being around him for too long.'

 

Same as what if you're with your crush for too long? And the he said "Although Suga looks cold, but actually he is a manly man with a warm heart so I like him."

 

They are close, but I guess Yoongi just doesn't like showing that in public? But they are close, trust me.

-The time that Yoongi gave away his plate of food and said he'd be full just watching him eat.

-Yoongi once left his family on New year's eve because Hoseok said he was lonely being at the dorm alone. (Everyone else was with their family). The fact that he was already with his family but left just for Hoseok was pure friendship. Hoseok even mentioned that if he was a girl he would've fallen in love with him.

 

-When they were trainees, Hoseok went back to the dorms because he felt dizzy, Yoongi was worried so he left work early to check on him.

 

-Yoongi used to drive Hoseok to the hospital because of his stress-induced entheritis. 

 

-When they first met at the dorms, Hoseok decided to sleep in the couch but Yoongi told him to sleep in a bed because he looked heart-rending.

 

- Yoongi literally said that Hoseok's sister was pretty because he looks like J-Hope with long hair.

 

-Yoongi can recognize Hoseok just by his breathing.

  "Not that long ago, I went to the bathroom and someone sighed. It wasn't even a sigh, it was like taking a breath. So I went "J hope?" and it was J hope *laughs*"

 

-They already have their own name 'Sope', and sang 'Otsukare' together at a Japan concert. (Debut?)

 

-He remembers the exact date that Hoseok joined.

 

-During the bungee jump, Yoongi knew that Hoseok was afraid of heights and kept cheering for him.

 

-"Whenever I'm sad, I gain strength just by looking at you." -Suga

 

-Suga thinks Hoseok is the best looking (He ranked the bts members)

 

-They wear matching couple clothes

 

 

(Everything that is italicized happened off screen, which means Yoongi is actually very caring towards him off screen).

If they aren't considered 'close', then I don't even know what true friends are anymore. My friends have never done any of that to me tbh.

 

I'm not trying to nag you, but I just want you know that Yoonseok do have a relationship.

[Humming_bird]

It's simple.. because BH has been promoting them past few CBs.

 

Don't take me wrong, it doesn't mean that they aren't good/close with each other but just the fact that, BH likes to promote some pairings each CB.

[Kookoo]

Don't get me wrong, but the fact that people are exaggerating how close they are, is because it's true. In my opinion, I don't think Yoonseok and Yoonmin are alike at all, in fact, Yoongi and Jimin are not that much opposites compared to Hoseok. Both Yoongi and Jimin are more of a shy and mature type of person, just that Jimin tends to show kindness more often. Kindness is not a personality, it's a quality that everyone has, even if they show it more often or not. Because both Jimin and Yoongi have that similar shy trait, when they're together that's how they'll act. Notice that they're pretty relaxed around each other. When they're with Hoseok, notice that both Jimin and Yoongi, not just Yoongi, but Jimin too, tend to goof around with Hoseok because how can one ignore the sunshine..

 

 

Notice how everything you've said is about Yoongi liking and doing things for Hoseok. 

Hoseok on the other hand is mostly the receiver. It's always about how Hoseok makes Yoongi smile and laugh.

I could write a much bigger list about Taehyung/Jimin's relationship with Hoseok, but nobody would care because they are just EXPECTED to be lovey-touchy with each other because they are sunshine line.

 

Do you know about the #oh series Taehyung did for Hoseok? Did you know Hoseok said he needs Jimin when he feels sad/stressed? Did you know Hoseok said he would date either Taehyung or Jimin if he had to choose? Did you know Hoseok said his ideal type is a girl like Taehyung?  There are many things like these which go almost unnoticed because sunshine line are by-default only besties. It doesn't fit the opposites-attract trope.

 

Hoseok has said on more than one occasion that he feels uncomfortable being with Yoongi for too long. Even a few months ago he said that it's awkward when it's just the two of them. It's not about crushes. I feel uncomfortable being around talkative people for too long. Hoseok probably feels the same way because Yoongi is too quiet.

 

Hoseok also spends most of his time playing and joking around with the maknae line rather than other members and that's just a fact you can verify watching videos since 2013. He literally calls them his toys. Taehyung also called Hoseok the leader of the maknae line.

 

I love Yoonseok but it is a ship based on their contrasting personalities. All the members have deep, meaningful relationships with each other but when it comes to Yoongi, his moments with the extroverted members are spotlighted the most. It is not a mystery as to why all of Yoongi's popular ships are with the sunshine line members.

Edited June 2, 2018 by Kookoo

[KiriL]

Tbh I ain't sure what exactly do you want to hear.

 

First of all it's just a ship, Yoonseok are cute and people can enjoy them for whatever reason even if it's just the attraction of opposites, it's not that deep.

 

Second, you can't evaluate members' closeness from the popularity of the ship, popular ship =/= the closest members and popular ship doesn't mean the opposite either, it's really just a ship mostly based on popularity of members, their cuteness together, their cuddling/playing with each other and also company's pushment in different ways. For example, Tae and Joon chose to be roommates, have serious conversations with each other a lot, Joon wrote the letter for Tae and gave him that extra toy he initially bought for Hobi, Tae back in the days chose Joon #1 as a partner for photoshoot and Joon was the first who said that Tae is actually the genius, there are so many moments between those two, they even wrote the song together, yet most probably everybody will answer that Taekook for sure closer than Vmon (it's not that I am deniing anyone's closeness, just want to show another point of view, hope you get it).

In rapline's case in general you can't really apply the playing/ cuddling/ hugging/ cute rule to them. Those three are different. They lived together for the longest and got through the most, their bond is deep and really serious intimate their moments are usually left out of camera (like how Namgi were the first congratulated Hobi with BD once, for example). Their moments on cam are usually subtle: while conversation they mostly look at each other looking for support, when there is some "difficult situation" one of those three is usually the one who give the another one help, etc..  It's always there, it's just due to Yoongi's "loudness" Yoonseok are more visible of the three pairings, they just got into the spotlight due to his actions (but if you'll look through Bangtan's old staff you'll see that those two had always wonderful dynamic and chemistry). From what I see among Sope shippers those subtle/ hidden moments are one of the most liked by people. Also their chemistry on stage is legit the best, the most captivating among members, like a fire, those two are mesmerizing together. Also, yeah, I have to say that Bighit played its role pushing this ship (just like any others), I guess, they liked reaction of fans to it.

 

And third, you honestly can't really rely on Hoseok's words much. Hoseok is the most twisted hardest to read member among them, if even Joon and Jimin said that he is like a closed book and hides a lot (and they have actually lived together with Hobi in the same house for 8 years already), then what to say about fans who can see him for just few minutes a day? Gosh, there were even three (3) different versions of why he didn't pierce his ears, which fans got directly from him on fansings back then, what to say about something as serious and personal as his relationship with members. Hoseok is witty and has a very specific mindset, his words can't be really evaluated directly or literally in most of the cases.

 

Anyway, if you want something fluttering from Hoseok towards Yoongi then here it is

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Their fondnes is mutual)

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