bb4 25,058 Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 Agencies show concern over new fair contract changes Article: Agencies worry over changes for fair contracts "Our A-tier trainees might get stolen"Source: Ilgan Sports via NateIn an effort for fairer contracts, recent changes have made it so that trainees can terminate their contracts by paying back only what was invested in them (previous contracts demanded 2-3 times the investment). This is mainly concerning for mid-tier agencies who are now afraid that bigger agencies can "steal" their best trainees by paying the lower fee for termination.-1. [+259, -3] Considering how much is invested in these trainees, these companies only get paid back once those trainees debut under them and make money. If those trainees end up debuting somewhere else, then of course it's a problem for agencies... especially mid-tier agencies who spend all their time and investment in training someone only for a bigger agency to scoop them away.2. [+194, -4] It is a gray area... it will also be a big blow to mid-tier agencies since most celebrities are willing to backstab and will go wherever is willing to pay them the most3. [+184, -4] I'd be pissed too if I spent all this money on training someone just to have them picked out by another agency4. [+20, -0] Well on the flip side, it's extremely profitable for big agencies. For mid-tier agencies, though, it's going to be like having all their best gems picked out by bigger agencies.5. [+18, -2] These changes will make mid-tier agencies just like a temporary academy before bigger agencies pay the fee and take them away. I've noticed even on 'K-Pop Star' with YG and JYP openly admitting to wanting to cast trainees who are already under mid-tier agencies.6. [+13, -0] It's great for big agencies... Not like anyone can pay to steal any of their trainees, and they obviously have the money to steal ace trainees from smaller agencies. Mid-tier agencies will just have to resort to casting trainees who were eliminated from the bigger agencies already.7. [+8, -1] Make it like soccer where you have to pay a transfer fee too8. [+4, -0] Maybe we need transfer fees or buy outs for contracts like in soccer ã…‹ã…‹9. [+3, -3] But it's pretty much like quitting an internship at your company to start full time at another company, why is that bad?10. [+2, -0] So mid-tier agencies have to invest all this money and time into feeding, housing, and training their trainees... only for a bigger agency to scout them away for a minimal fee. There's nothing that protects mid-tier agencies against that... other than say goodbye I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAUCY 44,499 Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 7. [+8, -1] Make it like soccer where you have to pay a transfer fee too ooooo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A random user 6,763 Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 It's interesting how hasn't even been a week since the release of the news and the disadvantages/unfairness of this new pack of laws are coming to the spotlight. #MESS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onetooth 4,117 Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 That's business for you. sucks for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardWorkBeatTalent 1,096 Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 For me it is fair under the new law, it protected the trainees, but it seem people in nate have different views. or they could apply this lol 7. [+8, -1] Make it like soccer where you have to pay a transfer fee too8. [+4, -0] Maybe we need transfer fees or buy outs for contracts like in soccer ã…‹ã…‹ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern 2,117 Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 Kim So Hee and Chrissa Choo will be stolen soon then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waycrispy1 3,434 Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 Their entire system is f*cked up to begin with. You start a business with the possibility of losing all the money that you invested, that's the way the world works. You still need to pay your workers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EpikBlink 9,318 Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 shannon to yge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grape Soda 12,004 Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 Damn trainees have to pay back 3 times of what was invested. Damn that sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deâ„“phina 14,904 Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 Trainee debt should be shouldered by the company. They make money off the idols after debuting, so training them is their investment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaitingDB5K 3,650 Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 Btw, these changes included things like:-changes in the penalty fee for terminating contracts. they only have to pay one fee now rather than 2 or 3 fees -when a contract expires, artists can't be forced to resign or pay a fee to leave (even though their contract already expired) -unfair termination, companies can't terminate contracts for reasons like "disrupting the honor of the company" - it is now easier for artists to open up legal disputes against these following companies in regards to the contract Now, if they could do something about 'old' artist blocked by their old agency (cockblocking) and TV appearances.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ELEOS 1,167 Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 People are always complaining how trainees get treated badly and have little rights, but now, when they are given opportunities to better themselves, all people care about are companies?? Not saying companies should loose out on investments, but if a trainee wants to change companies, it's better that they have a fairer chance to do so than have to be trapped by ridiculous interest fees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tadpole. 4,154 Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 Kim So Hee and Chrissa Choo will be stolen soon then ^what I came here to say There's no way Sohee isn't going to JYP now. Or Chrisha to YG for that matter lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickyGolightly 5,970 Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 as always knetz more concerned about companies than trainees or artists Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BITE MY CLIT 7,042 Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 yg and jyp oppa are shaking in happiness.. time to scoop up them kpop star trainees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trixbox 2,982 Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 7. [+8, -1] Make it like soccer where you have to pay a transfer fee too ooooo This! Or midtier agencies can part change there business as talent agencies for the big agencies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihatekpop 43 Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 ^what I came here to say There's no way Sohee isn't going to JYP now. Or Chrisha to YG for that matter lol I heard the news somewhere that Chrisha Choo company had already announced to debut new girl group. I think he made that decision to stop Chrisa Choo from being snatched, but reality is not too away far from hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. Targaryen 2,518 Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 well by the time the trainees terminate their contract, they were already trained. i think it's fairer if the trainee pay back to the company according to the duration of the training too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tadpole. 4,154 Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 I heard the news somewhere that Chrisha Choo company had already announced to debut new girl group. I think he made that decision to stop Chrisa Choo from being snatched, but reality is not too away far from hell. i think it'll depend on how much longer Chrisha is a trainee. Which she will be at least until she leaves Kpop Star, either by elimination or as the winner. Either way I still think its possible YG might buy out her trainee contract before she signs on for a debut under her current label. Any idea which entertainment company she is under? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss.Miss 8,896 Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 So that means things will be better for trainees then since these companies will have to think of more ways to make it advantageous for their trainees to stay with them. They need to start being creative. Or like some said they can work out additional charges for transfers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elodez 1,222 Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 i think it'll depend on how much longer Chrisha is a trainee. Which she will be at least until she leaves Kpop Star, either by elimination or as the winner. Either way I still think its possible YG might buy out her trainee contract before she signs on for a debut under her current label. Any idea which entertainment company she is under? Urban Works Ent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sa1zo 3,534 Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 Damn trainees have to pay back 3 times of what was invested. Damn that sucks They have to pay 2-3 times of the training cost if leave middle of their trainee contract. If you leave after the contract ends then you don't have to pay anything. So it is a fine breaking the contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boramrambo 8,005 Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 Thats why agency also need being smart, the longer they've been trainees the agency need invest more money. MBK doing smart thing with DIA, they made an open audition and some of them is come from establish company who had great talent but being wasted didnt get a chances to debut so they are on free market. Cathy from Woolim, Eunice from Star Empire, Jenny from Source Music and then Project A, Yebin and Eunchae also from Project A, Eunjin from dance company and only Chaeyeon who really get scout from scratch and only need six month of training days before get debut. Instead having long training period, they let them debut first and learn by doing. Watching DIA is like watch idol documentary how they grow up day by day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ripiaoppa 15,307 Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 well disloyal hoes aren't good anyway its better if they flee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swiftswitchsurf 12,276 Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 That's... Business. Like what the fuck do you expect? The free market is free for a reason. Tons of people can expect these things to happen in industries. It's a business expense and risk. It's not up to the government to coddle these multi-million businesses. If you're worried about employee drain DO BETTER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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