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Episode 1

 

The members performance (my opinion)

 

 

 

 

Jiyoon  = great characterplay       good detective    great entertainment

Jangjin = good characterplay       great detective     great entertainment

Jihoon =  good characterplay        good detective    good entertainment

Guest =  good characterplay        average criminal    good entertainment

Eunji =    good characterplay       average detective   average entertainment

Seyong =  weak characterplay     good detective       weak entertainment

Rating in 5 steps = great / good / average / weak / horrible

the guest was good. Maybe not the smartest criminal (it was a bit obvious when he was suspected.) but he was playing his character well and he had some fun lines. Eunji can still improve... solid performance but not really great. I think she needs to get used to this show format and will do better in future episodes. Seyong is a good detective but he totally gave up on entertaining people and he was really bad at playing his character. Seyong worries me a little.

 

 

 

 

 

The 7 hints that can help solve the case

There were a total of 7 hints that can help solve the case.

 

 

 

 

1) search the garbage can and find empty poison bottle

= " the murderer is physically weak and had access to the office."

2) remove sticker on 1 of many energy drinks and find poison hole.

= "the murderer is physically weak and had access to the office."

The only 2 weak persons who can enter the victim's office freely are the wife and the old man.

 

3) take old man's phone and listen to audio

= "the driver was murdered by the victim + old man. he mentions "charcoal bomb."

4) take old man's memorystick and watch it

= "victim plans to kill someone (presumably the murderer) like "charcoal bomb". he mentions "account book".

5) find old man's account book in old man's room

= "old man is the suspect with the account book. Victim planned to murder him."

If you link 3+4+5 together you have the murderer's motive, but you need all 3.

 

6) find ripped waterproof jumper in old man's room

= "needed when murderer stabs the body and throws the body through window."

7) find a pic hidden in the safe with black tape.

= it shows that the old man murdered the driver with the same poison.

Probably the 2 strongest hints that directly point at the old man. Hint 7 (+ hint 1) is very strong.

 

All in all i gave this case difficulty 4. Some hints are easy to find (they always check the garbage) and some are really hard (who finds this 1 bottle among dozens of bottles ? who find out that the carkey is in fact a memory stick ?)

 

 

 

 

Thats my snowdjinn analysis for Episode 1. ilikeitplz.png it was fun to watch.

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haha if you want to see how i figured out things (even though i got it wrong in the end) here are my long messy notes skip to the red line to see my wrong conclusionlaugh.png

 

 

motive? didn't want him to be pres
why? competitor or wronged in businees or corrupt (baseless guesses)

stabbed, maybe blood loss

jurundang party candidate jung
self-made man (perhaps not rich didn't come from money?)
youngest mman to become prosecutor
one meal party candidate revealed jung held sehryun group stocks

11pm april 27 2am april 28 (day before election day)
stabbed in side with fruit knife
cut on temple of head (like he was hit)
-rep song think he was stabbed and then fell and hit something (confirmed by blood on trash bins sharp corner)
multiple phone calls to a miss park (but assistant park denies its her)
cand. jung sent a text asking where rep song was at 9:32 and before then but rep song never replied
cand. jung lived modestly in the public and enjoyed leisure in private (maybe his wife didn't want that lifestyle?)
hidden account book in rep song's office
a safe hiden as a book with a bunh of money


wife was calm
*maybe the districts will be relevant later idk?

candidate jang rival?
age 51
irundang party
3 terms national assembly (jalsagu)
mayor of colossal city
during the 1st 2nd debate jangs approval dropped bcs cand. jung's comments about low income ppl
a conservative
jung raised the issue of jang's son's corruption scandal severely damaged reputation
made an appointment to meet with cand. jung (could be saying this to seem like they have nothing to hide but actually do)
met candidate jung for a short walk and then they parted ways < 11:30
office right beside cand. jung
mrs jung said that cand. jang would be a good partner for her to investigate with
cand. jang said he was suspicious of assistant park
son had a dui
deleted documents
-was a letter of resignation
shredded documents
-had to do with a paternity test

representative song
age 71
*same political party as cand. jung (jurundang)
6 terms national assembly (jungangu)
-notes-
maybe they had some rivalry or disagreement
could have known his well enough to know his where abouts
also first accused jang
was a former member of irudang party but defected after rejection (maybe he wanted back in and had to prove it through killing jung)
started the jurungdang party with jung
went home at 11 leaving mr and mrs jung alone
accused mrs. jung of an affair with cand. jang
there was a cup on cand. jung's desk with white powder water (possibility rep song drugged him)

mrs jung (wife of victim)
age 51 (random but maybe she was school mates with cand. jang)
chairperson sehryun group (top 10 groups in korea)
she said she was always working hard and showing a poker face
everyone thinks she's too calm
did her best to help him (kind of contrast with her statement about always at work)
was alone with him at 11 went home 20 minutes later
said that cand. jang was at her level so she felt it would be comfortable (but her husband was beneath her so she felt uncomfortable?)
company credit was c rank
not happily married
promise of transferred 28% most valuable partner to her husband
married after being bribed by cand. jung (after she paid him to harm her brother)

assistant park (unmarried woman, maybe lover of victim or cand. jang)
age 38
communications assistant cand. jang of irundang party
was with cand. jang at election campaign during time of murder(t.o.m)11PM
12AM was at home (but unmarried so no one knows if its true)
only energy drinks in her fridge the same as cand. jang
planned to visit her deceased family
had an affair with cand. jung
mrs. jung and asst. park attended same school
was looking up the dui report of cand. jang's son (maybe her father ws killed by jang's son drunk driving?)
possibilty she told cand. jung about cand. jang's son
assistant park's father's company ws taken over by mrs. jung company
***i think assistant park poked hole in the lid because they shared these drinks

mr yang
age 27
part timer- jurundang's party election campaign helper
brilliant dancer (lmao)
-notes-
the body was found near a campaign site i think
he said jang was most convincing suspect
read jung's book (maybe the advice was bad and made him lose a lot of money so he was angry)
cleaned up afer the election at 11 (election site where body was found maybe)
father comitted suicide
sent letter to central police
father worked as driver and went through  hard time (drove cand. jung)
maybe killed cand. jung because he indirectly caused his father's death
driver yang knew about cand. jung's corruption

 

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Jang Jin and Jae Rim were the stars of this episode! It wasn't hard to guess that it is him, but he was really great. Tbh this made me realize he is a good actor! lol And he found some good evidences. Eunji was also great, I liked her too. Only addition that doesn't make sense atm is the comedian but well I'll just ignore him :derp: Loved how assistant is much more involved, I'll miss the other guy though. Anticipating the next ep!

 

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Just finished watching Ep.1 and I agree that it's a solid episode for an Ep.1 of the season.

 

The cast still needs more chemistry together but that'll improve later. Jang Jin - Ji Yoon's chemistry is still great. Ji Hoon fades in this episode because he is the detective and kinda takes a backseat role more. Eun Ji and Se Hyung are still nervous for the new show but I trust them that they will get better later.

 

The criminal isn't hard if you can get these many evidences against him but evidences themselves are the hard one to find. So great job for the casts for finding it and kudos to Jae Rim to hide these as long as possible because before the 2nd search he seems to be the least suspicious to me. I think Se Hyung is doing okay, he finds some good evidence and also a very important "USB car key". If that's not found, the direction of the investigation could go into another way so I think he is doing very well considering it's his first experience. About the character role play, I agree that he is too serious and very nervous but I think he will get better.

 

Eun Ji presence alone makes me smile throughout the episode so...PASS!!! :lol:

 

Next episode, very interesting about the twist. What could it be?

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Solid episode but the casts are so-so only.

 

 

Couldn't help but compare china version of crime scene...and I have to say the crime scene (china) seems to be better than the korean one in terms of cast, writing & entertainment value.

 

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the first episode was okay. still miss season 1 cast though

 

 

Solid episode but the casts are so-so only.

 

 

Couldn't help but compare china version of crime scene...and I have to say the crime scene (china) seems to be better than the korean one in terms of cast, writing & entertainment value.

 

I just watched the first and second episode, it's better than i expected :O

 

 

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Anyone, is there one of the cast in Crime Scene 1 and 2 ever absent in one episode Crime Scene? I don't watch Crime Scene 1 and 2.

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i enjoyed the first episode with just 1 complain, like the previous seasons they are too focused on the murderer motives, after watching all eps i noticed that in every cases almost all the suspects have strong motives even sometimes suspect with weaker motive could ended up being the murderer.  

 

I wish they could pay more attention to the technical things like matching the Alibis with the time of death, finding the weapons, etc.

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i enjoyed the first episode with just 1 complain, like the previous seasons they are too focused on the murderer motives, after watching all eps i noticed that in every cases almost all the suspects have strong motives even sometimes suspect with weaker motive could ended up being the murderer.  

 

I wish they could pay more attention to the technical things like matching the Alibis with the time of death, finding the weapons, etc.

 

Every character needs to have a motive (apart from the detective) otherwise it diminishes the fun somewhat. It's ridiculous, yes, but most of the comedy in Crime Scene actually comes from cast members teasing/trolling each other over their weird character traits and potential reasons for killing the victim(s). The smart player, of course, will just focus on connecting the suspect to the crime scene and/or murder weapon – the rest is just white noise.

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Every character needs to have a motive (apart from the detective) otherwise it diminishes the fun somewhat. It's ridiculous, yes, but most of the comedy in Crime Scene actually comes from cast members teasing/trolling each other over their weird character traits and potential reasons for killing the victim(s). The smart player, of course, will just focus on connecting the suspect to the crime scene and/or murder weapon – the rest is just white noise.

im not saying that the characters (other than the murderer) shouldnt be given motives at all, just want to see they pay attention more to other stuffs because 80% of their discussions are only abt motives meanwhile the technical stuffs were mostly shown/discussed last minute with brief explanations. Imo motive is the least important to based on because in some case even a character with weaker motive were the murderer.

The comedy (banter, teasing) could also be made from discussions abt other topics, i still remember dongmin & jin ho funnily teasing each other to defend their alibis

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  • love changed the title to OFFICIAL CRIME SCENE 3 THREAD

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