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#121 UhYeh

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Posted 17 September 2017 - 01:29 PM (Edited by UhYeh, 17 September 2017 - 01:30 PM.)

You're just clueless on Thai traditional music or music in general that you couldn't hear how those songs were modern western music with tradition sounds blended.

 

Of course, Thaitanium is an artist, it can no way has as many reaction videos as all V-pop artists combined. I find reaction video pointless anyway. Views on those videos are mostly come from the country where the artist is from anyway.

 

Since you have already pointed out the Thai has different taste thus, the developed genres of music are different to compare a genre of music is kinda absurd. Dubstep is not popular in Thailand thus, it's lacking. Actually, the whole EDM scene is underdeveloped. But, if you like Synth pop, there are many nice artists.

 

 

 

Those songs are not modern mixed. They use western musical instruments, not modern mixed. When I talk about modern mixed means the use of traditional instruments or traditional opera sings using modern mix techniques. Not some traditional songs use  western instruments. The Ground Break Tony Ya, that song is modern mixed tradition I am talking about.

 

The songs you called it Synth pop are actually New Wave, its' EDM sub genre which popular in the 80s early 90s but now day  that genre falls out of favor. 

 

The reasons Kpop popular is because it is sensitive to the trend. Hip Hop or EDM dubstep, bass drum, jungle, trance, house..etc. are big in Europe and U.S.  Kpop is the Asian early adopter, incorporate  with Rap, Choreography, and styling  makes Kpop popular. While other Asian still stuck with their dominant genre; Taiwain, China  ballad still a dominant genre, Thai is rock right? In Vietnam ballad is still dominant, and gradually shifting toward EDM in recent years many of good EDM mixed released. 

 

For a music culture to be popular you need to be creative and sensitive to the trend. The trends mostly popularize by the West and U.S.


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Posted 18 September 2017 - 06:32 AM

Those songs are not modern mixed. They use western musical instruments, not modern mixed. When I talk about modern mixed means the use of traditional instruments or traditional opera sings using modern mix techniques. Not some traditional songs use  western instruments. The Ground Break Tony Ya, that song is modern mixed tradition I am talking about.

 

The songs you called it Synth pop are actually New Wave, its' EDM sub genre which popular in the 80s early 90s but now day  that genre falls out of favor. 

 

The reasons Kpop popular is because it is sensitive to the trend. Hip Hop or EDM dubstep, bass drum, jungle, trance, house..etc. are big in Europe and U.S.  Kpop is the Asian early adopter, incorporate  with Rap, Choreography, and styling  makes Kpop popular. While other Asian still stuck with their dominant genre; Taiwain, China  ballad still a dominant genre, Thai is rock right? In Vietnam ballad is still dominant, and gradually shifting toward EDM in recent years many of good EDM mixed released. 

 

For a music culture to be popular you need to be creative and sensitive to the trend. The trends mostly popularize by the West and U.S.

I can't understand "modern mix" your examples are basically modern song with the sound of traditional music instrument(s).

 

The song ล่องแม่ปิง by สุนทรี เวชชานนท์ (https://www.youtube....h?v=i-PNvx5VLTs) is a folk song with the sound of traditional music instruments and western music instruments mixed, the singing is a toned down nasal traditional style.

 

The music part of ปักษ์ใต้บ้านเรา by แฮมเมอร์ (https://www.youtube....h?v=BlUD0-aZAQ8) resembles the music of a local traditional music called Rong-ngeng (รองเง็ง) but, the singing is in western style. Violin was introduced to Malaysia during the colonization by UK and later the instrument was widely used to play traditional music among the Muslim in the south of Thailand. Violin has become an essential sound in Rong-ngeng for ages.

 

If you have ever heard the traditional performance called กลองสะบัดชัย, you'll hear the inspiration from such performance in "สวัสดีเจ้า" (https://www.youtube....h?v=r9NY9z3VNnc). The dominant sound of cymbals and gong were synthesized.

 

In เจ้าช่อมาลี by Mr. Team (https://www.youtube....h?v=_FdCjW-0OFo), not only the sound of small cymbals, a prominent percussion in traditional music, is emphasized, the melody is influenced by a local genre called "looktoong (ลูกทุ่ง)".

 

The song "Maya" by Rasmee (https://www.youtube....h?v=4Q6QQb_dkgM) was sung in a stuttering/ staccato vocal technique that is unique to a local genre "molam (หมอลำ)".

 

The nasal singing in แลรักนิรันดร์กาล (https://www.youtube....h?v=xlU_o3vsTt4) is influenced by the singing style of northern traditional music.

 

The song "Fail" by The Rube (https://www.youtube....h?v=8I885FqpIIc) outright integrating a traditional song for engagement ceremony "เพลงโห่ขันหมาก" into it.

 

I don't think "synth pop", aka electro pop or urban pop, is a sub genre of EDM as it isn't dance music. Yes, synth pop was mainstream in 80's.

 

A problem of trying to follow the trend is that we often catch on the trend when it's going out of trend. Besides, you won't stand out/ don't have distinct identity. K-pop songs nowadays aren't necessarily following the trend either. I don't think the style S.M. has given to NCT127 is trending anyway. Hip-hop is not very trendy right now either. Some Thai indie groups build their niche oversea market from their non-mainstream-conforming music.

 

What is popular in Thailand, aside from local genre that is "looktoong" are ballad pop, pop-rock, hip-hop, r&b is somewhat rising too. Pop-dance is being pushed after the success of k-pop and the advent of BNK48.

 

I think EDM is not very trendy anymore?


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Posted 18 September 2017 - 01:43 PM

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#124 UhYeh

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Posted 18 September 2017 - 08:28 PM (Edited by UhYeh, 18 September 2017 - 08:39 PM.)

I can't understand "modern mix" your examples are basically modern song with the sound of traditional music instrument(s).

 

The song ล่องแม่ปิง by สุนทรี เวชชานนท์ (https://www.youtube....h?v=i-PNvx5VLTs) is a folk song with the sound of traditional music instruments and western music instruments mixed, the singing is a toned down nasal traditional style.

 

What genre do you think mixing here; Ballad, EDM, RB, HipHop, Pop? If you can't tell a genre was incorporated then it is not mixing. That song is more like modern  twist not mix.

 

 

 

I don't think "synth pop", aka electro pop or urban pop, is a sub genre of EDM as it isn't dance music. Yes, synth pop was mainstream in 80's.

New Wave is sub genre of EDM. New Wave and Synth Pop is actually one, just different calling. Yes you can dance with almost any type of music. Different type of music has different dance.

 

See list of EDM subgenre ?

https://youngpeoplea...-edm-subgenres/


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Posted 19 September 2017 - 05:10 AM

What genre do you think mixing here; Ballad, EDM, RB, HipHop, Pop? If you can't tell a genre was incorporated then it is not mixing. That song is more like modern  twist not mix.

 

New Wave is sub genre of EDM. New Wave and Synth Pop is actually one, just different calling. Yes you can dance with almost any type of music. Different type of music has different dance.

 

See list of EDM subgenre ?

https://youngpeoplea...-edm-subgenres/

folk music (not as folk in folk art but folk as a genre of acoustic music originated in USA, or one may say acoustic pop.)

 

Someone said EDM was a sub of New Wave. I'm not sure which one is right.

 

http://www.allmusic....ve-ma0000002750

 

During the late '70s and early '80s, New Wave was a catch-all term for the music that directly followed punk rock; often, the term encompassed punk itself, as well. In retrospect, it became clear that the music following punk could be divided, more or less, into two categories -- post-punk and new wave. Where post-punk was arty, difficult, and challenging, new wave was pop music, pure and simple. It retained the fresh vigor and irreverence of punk music, as well as a fascination with electronics, style, and art. Therefore, there was a lot of stylistic diversity to new wave. It meant the nervy power pop of bands like XTC and Nick Lowe, but it also meant synth rockers like Gary Numan or rock revivalists like Graham Parker and Rockpile. There were edgy new wave songwriters like Elvis Costello, pop bands like Squeeze, tough rock & rollers like the Pretenders, pop-reggae like the Police, mainstream rockers like the Cars, and ska revivalists like the Specials and Madness. As important as these major artists were, there were also countless one-hit wonders that emerged during early new wave. These one-hit groups were as diverse as the major artists, but they all shared a love of pop hooks, modernist, synthesized production, and a fascination for being slightly left of center. By the early '80s, new wave described nearly every new pop/rock artist, especially those that used synthesizers like the Human League and Duran Duran. New wave received a boost in the early '80s by MTV, who broadcast endless hours of new wave videos in order to keep themselves on the air. Therefore, new wave got a second life in 1982, when it probably would have died out. Instead, 1982 and 1983 were boom years for polished, MTV-radio new wave outfits like Culture Club, Adam Ant, Spandau Ballet, Haircut 100, and A Flock of Seagulls. New wave finally died out in 1984, when established artists began to make professional videos and a new crop of guitar-oriented bands like the Smiths and R.E.M. emerged to capture the attention of college-radio and underground rock fans. Nevertheless, new wave proved more influential than many of its critics would have suspected, as the mid-'90s were dominated by bands -- from Blur to Weezer -- that were raised on the music.

I don't think anyone will call R.E.M, Duran Duran, Blur etc. EDM groups?


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Posted 21 September 2017 - 09:49 AM

What genre do you think mixing here; Ballad, EDM, RB, HipHop, Pop? If you can't tell a genre was incorporated then it is not mixing. That song is more like modern  twist not mix.

 

New Wave is sub genre of EDM. New Wave and Synth Pop is actually one, just different calling. Yes you can dance with almost any type of music. Different type of music has different dance.

 

See list of EDM subgenre ?

https://youngpeoplea...-edm-subgenres/

Why do you continue to debate with this low class hater? You can't change this person's mind, even you come up with good arguments and facts. He hates VPOP, he will do anything to put it down, but the he fails and keeps failing. Just let him stick with his ignorant peasant hating. He is peasant.


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