TonyAndonuts 2,877 Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 To be honest, before I got into K-Pop, I didn't know that the Rising Sun symbol was seen as so offensive in places like Korea. But the thing is, it's not like I didn't know that symbol was used during WWII, I just was under the impression that the meaning of it had changed over the years. I thought that when people saw the Rising Sun nowadays, they think of just "Japanese pride" before they think of the atrocities Japan committed during WWII. Maybe that's just my dumb American ass talking, but growing up watching anime and getting interested in Japanese culture, I end up seeing the Rising Sun quite a bit. And whenever I did, it always came off to me as just "Japanese pride". It was almost always used to represent something super (sometimes stereotypically) Japanese. Kinda like this: In fact, one of my favorite games of all time, Okami, uses the Rising Sun imagery a lot. The game is all about Japanese mythology, ancient lore, celebrating nature and tranquility, and vanquishing evil demons. It's a very Japanese game. You play as the sun goddess, Amaterasu, and as the sun goddess, one of your main abilities is making the sun rise. It looks like this. And there are plenty of other instances too. Hell, one of the biggest songs in the game that plays during the final battle (spoilers I guess??) is called The Sun Rises or Rising Sun This song is fucking amazing by the way So in these examples, is the Rising Sun imagery okay to use, or no, is it never okay? Okami for example certainly isn't some kind of game promoting hate or war propaganda or anything like that, it's just a game that celebrates ancient Japanese culture, mythology, and nature. But even still, is it something that they shouldn't do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iljin jennie 669 Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ari 12,218 Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 "It is still used in Japan as a symbol of tradition and good fortune, and is incorporated into commercial products and advertisements." here you go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Only 1 U Need Connoisseur 6,671 Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 If Japan is the one using it.. Isn't like a symbol of their "pride" ? The funny thing is.. in my Japanese class.. teacher doesn't like Chinese.. because of the war.. and China don't like Japanese.. This symbol don't ever ever use it honestly.. Especially in China.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plutto 9,419 Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 The rising sun is Japan's official naval jack and the flag exists even before Imperial Japan (I think?) I don't know much about Japan but yeah It is offensive for some people, but it's definitely not a crime to use it in certain conditions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athena 21,718 Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 "It is still used in Japan as a symbol of tradition and good fortune, and is incorporated into commercial products and advertisements." here you go I'm not well-versed on the topic (the Rising Flag) but isn't that practically the same as how the Confederate Flag is not uncommonly used because some people use it to represent states' rights and Southern pride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moa_Nunu 3,109 Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 From my understanding it's about as upsetting to many as the nazi swastika is to us in the west. I would always err on the side of the victims and be sensitive to their perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHICKEN NUGGET 310 Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 Ask Tiffany! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Ayy Big Gay 8,172 Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 It's like the Confederate flag, if you ask me. Some think it's the symbol of pride, some think it's a sign of the compete opposite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CALICO CAT 8,999 Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 i'd rather not use it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deviandrepepe 6,559 Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 Those are not rising sun symbol but sun ray art. It's the most popular way to draw rays and can be drawn from corner too. Those are not the same and have zero connection to the japan flag. You can just google sun ray to know as much. Don't be an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sailor Mars 1,981 Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 I wouldn't use it because it's like the confederate flag to Koreans and I don't want to offend people knowing if it was the confederate flag, i'd be upset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abra 40,910 Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 Yes it's fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinyobi No Asa 347 Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 Sure why not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trixbox 2,982 Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 The rising sun symbol is originally the flag taken off from a Japanese feudal warlord during edo era. It was adopted by the meiji era as the Imperial war flag to represent the country in times of war. It was given that connotation because the flag has been adopted by the Japanese army and the Imperial Navy during the world war 2 as a symbol of respect towards the tradition from the Shogun's and Daimyo. Since the flag has been used during World War 2, it has been tainted and was the symbol of hate for the Japanese because of the atrocities. Koreans and Chinese see the flag as a symbol of hate towards Japan. Fyi, American military also uses the rising flag symbol for the military insignia. Source: Wiki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MeMe the Meme 105 Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 It's always ok to use. I'm not Korean, I don't give a shit how they feel about it. And Imperialism just means that a culture is strong enough to conquer others, which is not a bad thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delincious 5,654 Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 Originally taken from this thing is not very accurate idk what malta is supposed to refer to if its not the island but this symbol is the lauburu/basque cross from the basque country which has, really, nothing to do with the malta state Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyAndonuts 2,877 Posted February 13, 2017 Author Share Posted February 13, 2017 Those are not rising sun symbol but sun ray art. It's the most popular way to draw rays and can be drawn from corner too. Those are not the same and have zero connection to the japan flag. You can just google sun ray to know as much. Don't be an idiot. What if they shone the colors red and white? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TickleMePink 17,072 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 I don't know much about it but it probably has double meanings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adina kim 484 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 this thing is not very accurate idk what malta is supposed to refer to if its not the island but this symbol is the lauburu/basque cross from the basque country which has, really, nothing to do with the malta state the point is, those rising sun or the swastika were once just a normal symbol at the beginning.....but after that ...war happen and ppl use that symbol..that what make ppl soo sensitive..that symbol use and it meaning during that war time.. so if u gonna say i dont understand why ppl so sensitive about this symbol and show the original meaning of that symbol .....aint nobody gonna have the same idea with u ,cuz ppl will only picture those symbol and what make it famous for in general public nowday ....and that is the time those symbol were use during the WORLD war 2........ is...not that deep ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kami Nana 1,341 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 In Japan? Sure. In Korea or China? Never. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sakurahanabira 6,634 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Hell, one of the biggest songs in the game that plays during the final battle (spoilers I guess??) is called The Sun Rises or Rising SunThere's nothing wrong with the name The Sun Rises or Rising Sun. I mean Japan is known in the West as The Land of the Rising Sun. It's only the flag imagery that's offensive to Chinese and Koreans, not the name itself. And there are some Japanese traditional art that predate WW2 that use the rising sun imagery but I don't think they're offensive since those art were made waaay before the war and before Japan tried to imperialize Asia. For example, this ukiyo-e print was made in 1869, a full century before WW2: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f0/Lucky_Gods%27_visit_to_Enoshima.jpg/82px-Lucky_Gods%27_visit_to_Enoshima.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyAndonuts 2,877 Posted February 14, 2017 Author Share Posted February 14, 2017 In Japan? Sure. In Korea or China? Never. What about in other places? I remember this article where K-Netz were really upset at an American music artist because he was wearing a shirt with the Rising Sun imagery on it. It kinda gave me the impression that it just might not be okay under any circumstances to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delincious 5,654 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 the point is, those rising sun or the swastika were once just a normal symbol at the beginning.....but after that ...war happen and ppl use that symbol..that what make ppl soo sensitive..that symbol use and it meaning during that war time.. so if u gonna say i dont understand why ppl so sensitive about this symbol and show the original meaning of that symbol .....aint nobody gonna have the same idea with u ,cuz ppl will only picture those symbol and what make it famous for in general public nowday ....and that is the time those symbol were use during the WORLD war 2........ is...not that deep ... you misquoted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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