The Official "True Detective" Thread

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~ PLOT ~

True Detective is an American television anthology drama series on HBO created and written by Nic Pizzolatto, with the first season directed by Cary Joji Fukunaga. Season one stars Matthew McConaughey, Woody Harrelson, Michelle Monaghan, Michael Potts, and Tory Kittles, and utilizes multiple timelines to trace two Louisiana State Police Criminal Investigations Division homicide detectives' hunt for a serial killer in Louisiana across seventeen years.The premiere season debuted on January 12, 2014, and will consist of eight episodes. - source wikipedia

 

 

~ CAST ~

 

Main Cast:

Matthew McConaughey as Det. Rustin "Rust" Cohle

Woody Harrelson as Det. Martin Hart

Michelle Monaghan as Maggie Hart

Michael Potts as Det. Maynard Gilbough

Tory Kittles as Det. Thomas Papania

 

 

Recurring cast

 

Kevin Dunn as Major Ken Quesada[

Alexandra Daddario as Lisa Tragnetti

Elizabeth Reaser as Laurie Perkins

Brad Carter as Charlie Lange

Lili Simmons as Beth

Jay O. Sanders as Billy Lee Tuttle

Shea Whigham as Joel Theriot Clarke Peters as minister

 

 

Let's discuss your thoughts about the show and about the episodes here. Who will be the murder at the end? Feel free to post here!

 

 

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I am here chingu. Is the future "Martin" still work in police, homicide division?

 

 

Also, we know that the future Martin will divorce Maggie as he has no wedding ring anymore

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I am here chingu. Is the future "Martin" still work in police, homicide division?

 

 

Also, we know that the future Martin will divorce Maggie as he has no wedding ring anymore

I don't think he is working for the police anymore.

 

And yes I think Maggie will be the one divorcing her husband. Maybe Rust had something to do with that. Afterall there is some tension between them.

 

I'm also suspicious with the dude who was mowing the grass infront of that old school in episode 3.

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Alexandra Daddario is hot

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I don't think he is working for the police anymore.

 

And yes I think Maggie will be the one divorcing her husband. Maybe Rust had something to do with that. Afterall there is some tension between them.

 

I'm also suspicious with the dude who was mowing the grass infront of that old school in episode 3.

 

Well, Martin looks pretty well off to me (I suspect his career skyrocketed because of the woman antler case and he works in a better environment than homicide/police department now, possibly FBI)

 

I'm not really suspicious to the dude who was mowing the grass (I'm glad you mentioned it now so I could dig deeper) but Reggie Deloux is still my main suspect since the way Rust said it sounds like he was certain that Reggie was his ray of hope.

 

 

I want Maggie to end up with Rust but Rust once said that he was "almost" married to a woman that was introduced by "Laurie"? If I'm not mistaken. Not too sure which episode was that.

 

 

Omg, it's only 8 episodes and now we're down to 5 more. This kind of reminds me of Broadchurch and I'm hoping that we get some kind of a plot twist in the end LOL.

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I've heard a lot of good things about this show and I'm planning on catching up on the episodes today. Is it really that good?

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Well, Martin looks pretty well off to me (I suspect his career skyrocketed because of the woman antler case and he works in a better environment than homicide/police department now, possibly FBI)

 

I'm not really suspicious to the dude who was mowing the grass (I'm glad you mentioned it now so I could dig deeper) but Reggie Deloux is still my main suspect since the way Rust said it sounds like he was certain that Reggie was his ray of hope.

 

 

I want Maggie to end up with Rust but Rust once said that he was "almost" married to a woman that was introduced by "Laurie"? If I'm not mistaken. Not too sure which episode was that.

 

 

Omg, it's only 8 episodes and now we're down to 5 more. This kind of reminds me of Broadchurch and I'm hoping that we get some kind of a plot twist in the end LOL.

 

I don't know why but Reggie seems "too easy" for me. Everyone suspects him and he is refered as monster but it seems like he is not the only monster in the serie because of the present murdering.

 

Yes Rust said that Maggie introduced him to a woman and they got almost married. Isn't that the same woman in their double date?

But maybe Maggie is the reason why Rust didn't marry her?

Btw why would Rust mow the grass in Hart's garden even though Hart isn't at home. On top of that he visits Maggie. Either he is interested in Maggie or he uses her to make Hart jealous.

 

Either way I think that Rust will bang Maggie some day. The feels that both are given is pretty sexual, at least I'm sure Maggie is interested since her husband doesn't give her the attention she wants.

 

And what's with Hart's children? The pictures his daughter draw + the positions of the puppets is really suspicious. Is she getting molested by someone or why does she know these kind of things at that age?

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I've heard a lot of good things about this show and I'm planning on catching up on the episodes today. Is it really that good?

Totally recommend it. I was hooked after one episode already. The acting is superb especially Matthew is brilliant in his role.

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I don't know why but Reggie seems "too easy" for me. Everyone suspects him and he is refered as monster but it seems like he is not the only monster in the serie because of the present murdering.

 

Yes Rust said that Maggie introduced him to a woman and they got almost married. Isn't that the same woman in their double date?

But maybe Maggie is the reason why Rust didn't marry her?

Btw why would Rust mow the grass in Hart's garden even though Hart isn't at home. On top of that he visits Maggie. Either he is interested in Maggie or he uses her to make Hart jealous.

 

Either way I think that Rust will bang Maggie some day. The feels that both are given is pretty sexual, at least I'm sure Maggie is interested since her husband doesn't give her the attention she wants.

 

And what's with Hart's children? The pictures his daughter draw + the positions of the puppets is really suspicious. Is she getting molested by someone or why does she know these kind of things at that age?

 

Reggie is too easy, I agree but I feel like he is an important pivot in this case.

 

It's true I find it suspicious that:

 

1. Rust is mowing Maggie's lawn

2. Maggie phone Rust in the middle of the night

3. Martin's child sex drawing (refers that they were exposed with sex)

 

Martin's marriage has become too unhealthy lol

 

I guess I'm going to wait for another episode to judge who will be the suspect. This case is so hard.

 

Known victims:

1. Dora Lange

2. the river woman (possible)

 

Also, I love how dark and moody their poster is. And their motto "Man is the cruelest animal". And how Cohle is a different kind of pessimist.

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Reggie is too easy, I agree but I feel like he is an important pivot in this case.

 

It's true I find it suspicious that:

 

1. Rust is mowing Maggie's lawn

2. Maggie phone Rust in the middle of the night

3. Martin's child sex drawing (refers that they were exposed with sex)

 

Martin's marriage has become too unhealthy lol

 

I guess I'm going to wait for another episode to judge who will be the suspect. This case is so hard.

 

Known victims:

1. Dora Lange

2. the river woman (possible)

 

Also, I love how dark and moody their poster is. And their motto "Man is the cruelest animal". And how Cohle is a different kind of pessimist.

Rust is amazing. I love his character.

 

Rust and Hart are both questioned in the same room.

Did you realize that Hart s more asked about Rust than the case while Rust is mostly asked about the case.

 

And I also found out that the positions of the dolls with what Hart's children played with had the exact positions as this what they found in the Dora case. Why would it have the same position?

 

 

 

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I have checked some other sites and I found this pretty interesting

 

Marty's daughter drew the same exact drawing that is on the back of the dead girls. How does it connect? Im assuming the school backed by the tuddle group? Some sort of Cult activity? Does Marty's daughter end up killed later on? Is she a marked one? Does she turn out to be the modern killer? Is it a red herring? What do you think?

http://i.imgur.com/LmlOJdu.jpg

 

 

And also the dolls with what Hart's children played with:

 

 

http://i59.tinypic.com/2isk0pg.jpg

 

+ the Dora Lange picture in her home:

 

http://oi59.tinypic.com/98r08y.jpg

 

are kinda weird and look similar. Blonde girl and 5 men. Why didn't Rust or Hart asked the mother of Dora about the picture? Dora is obviously surrounded by 5 men.

 

And another thing that looked kinda suspicious to me was when Rust and Hart were driving and none of them pointed out at that poster:

 

 

It could have been related to the same murder. All these things seems to be a link to the true murder. I don't think that these things are there for nothing.

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Oh my goodness you're correct I need to rewatch it again fml

 

Also, it seems like Hart's daughter will be one of the key point in here. She draws that and the whole triangle thing in that drawing and it looks suspicious. There are a lot of subtle moments that you need to see in here.

 

 

I don't think she was exposed in that kind of occult in her school > I'm suspicious of Maggie now for some reason.

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Oh my goodness you're correct I need to rewatch it again fml

 

Also, it seems like Hart's daughter will be one of the key point in here. She draws that and the whole triangle thing in that drawing and it looks suspicious. There are a lot of subtle moments that you need to see in here.

 

 

I don't think she was exposed in that kind of occult in her school > I'm suspicious of Maggie now for some reason.

I swear to god. Everyone is suspicious or has something they hide.

 

I really don't want a cast change in Season 2. This cast is amazing.

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I swear to god. Everyone is suspicious or has something they hide.

 

I really don't want a cast change in Season 2. This cast is amazing.

Everyone is suspicious indeed. Do you think Hart's mistress (I forgot her name) will be one of the future victim? I have a feeling she will be lol.

 

 

I think Season 2 will have different story/murder case. Hart and Rust's relationship cannot be fixed anymore imo, judging from the way Rust turned out.

 

It's possible that Rust still continues to solve future murders but not Hart.

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Everyone is suspicious indeed. Do you think Hart's mistress (I forgot her name) will be one of the future victim? I have a feeling she will be lol.

 

 

I think Season 2 will have different story/murder case. Hart and Rust's relationship cannot be fixed anymore imo, judging from the way Rust turned out.

 

It's possible that Rust still continues to solve future murders but not Hart.

Apparently I heard his mistress was only scheduled to appear until episode 3. Not sure of it was true or not because afterall she has a important role aswell, at least for Hart's life story.

 

I really want to know what destroyed Rust and Hart's relationship. Many assume it has something to do with Maggie but idk.

 

Btw didn't at the end of episode 3 Rust say that there was a gun battle after they saw that man with the mask + underwear?

 

And what's with Rust PTSD problems? That's also a major part of the story.

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Apparently I heard his mistress was only scheduled to appear until episode 3. Not sure of it was true or not because afterall she has a important role aswell, at least for Hart's life story.

 

I really want to know what destroyed Rust and Hart's relationship. Many assume it has something to do with Maggie but idk.

 

Btw didn't at the end of episode 3 Rust say that there was a gun battle after they saw that man with the mask + underwear?

 

And what's with Rust PTSD problems? That's also a major part of the story.

 

The masked + underwear is Reggie Ledoux right? Yeah Rust said that there will be a gun battle and turning point in the mask + underwear's place

 

Wasn't his PTSD problems arise because of his drugs abuse? He has some nerve damage due to his previous work which involves drug so it kind of triggered his PTSD.

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The masked + underwear is Reggie Ledoux right? Yeah Rust said that there will be a gun battle and turning point in the mask + underwear's place

 

Wasn't his PTSD problems arise because of his drugs abuse? He has some nerve damage due to his previous work which involves drug so it kind of triggered his PTSD.

Apparently it's Reggie. But maybe Reggie is only one part of a whole sect that kills the girls.

 

 

Yes it's because of the drug use but I also think it's because of the death of his daughter.

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Episode 4.

 

 

Did Rust LIED to Hart when he said that "you two could be together in a couple of months" where he LITERALLY SAID THAT "Man and woman, it's not supposed to work unless making kids" and "kids are all that matters" straight in Maggie's face? Why did he lied tho? Or he literally didn't lie and just said it to make Maggie came back to Hart. But that seems impossible since Rust gave 0 fuck in Hart's love life.

 

Omg I don't see Rust and Maggie hooking up together in the near future since it seems the sexual tension between them has vanished. Or it was only on Maggie's side. And Maggie seems a bit turned off by Rust's rationalization especially when she said "Wow, you must've been a great husband".

 

And why did Rust said that he's back to his father when he literally has no father or something like that? Why did he lie to the police?

 

Oh wait. I knew. Is it because they couldn't tell their adventure to the biker gang with police? Why still lie tho? Does it means that Ginger will die into their hands or something?

 

 

AND OMG IT'S GETTING SO INTENSE!

 

 

Rust is so smart. He managed to sneak beyond the war and get to Hart's car. I AM SO IN LOVE WITH HIS CHARACTER.

 

Apparently we won't see Reggie Ledoux soon. Reggie Ledoux scene with underwear and mask is probably cut down from somewhere in the future. And the scene where Rust + Hart with telephone, telling people and the special unit is for the near future too. The timeline is sometimes confusing but I think I get the hang of it.

 

 

Seems like Reggie is the number one suspect tho. I wonder whether the two cops will catch their serial killer by listening to Hart and Rust's stories. It doesn't seem to be in the current timeline. Possibly for the future True Detective?

 

 

ps: this show is so frustrating because it seems so straight yet we believed there will be a lot of plot twists LOL

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Episode 4.

 

 

Did Rust LIED to Hart when he said that "you two could be together in a couple of months" where he LITERALLY SAID THAT "Man and woman, it's not supposed to work unless making kids" and "kids are all that matters" straight in Maggie's face? Why did he lied tho? Or he literally didn't lie and just said it to make Maggie came back to Hart. But that seems impossible since Rust gave 0 fuck in Hart's love life.

 

Omg I don't see Rust and Maggie hooking up together in the near future since it seems the sexual tension between them has vanished. Or it was only on Maggie's side. And Maggie seems a bit turned off by Rust's rationalization especially when she said "Wow, you must've been a great husband".

 

And why did Rust said that he's back to his father when he literally has no father or something like that? Why did he lie to the police?

 

Oh wait. I knew. Is it because they couldn't tell their adventure to the biker gang with police? Why still lie tho? Does it means that Ginger will die into their hands or something?

 

 

AND OMG IT'S GETTING SO INTENSE!

 

 

Rust is so smart. He managed to sneak beyond the war and get to Hart's car. I AM SO IN LOVE WITH HIS CHARACTER.

 

Apparently we won't see Reggie Ledoux soon. Reggie Ledoux scene with underwear and mask is probably cut down from somewhere in the future. And the scene where Rust + Hart with telephone, telling people and the special unit is for the near future too. The timeline is sometimes confusing but I think I get the hang of it.

 

 

Seems like Reggie is the number one suspect tho. I wonder whether the two cops will catch their serial killer by listening to Hart and Rust's stories. It doesn't seem to be in the current timeline. Possibly for the future True Detective?

 

 

ps: this show is so frustrating because it seems so straight yet we believed there will be a lot of plot twists LOL

 

 

That episode was legend. The last 8 minutes were fucking done in a single shot. It's that moment when you realise the camera hasn't cut away. AMAZING.

 

The most interesting part was when Hart and Rust both lie about Rusts leave of absence, during the time they were undercover. Although the viewer get to see what really happened , the two other detectives hear the lies of both of them which was that Rust left for a specific time because his father was ill with leukamie. Why did Hart lie for Rust if they friendship is already over?

 

The teaser for next episode makes me think that the two detectives think that Rust is behind the murders, since Hart asks them ,why they always ask him about Rust and what's that about.

 

I don't think that Ledoux is the final murder. He might be the one Rust and Hart get at the end for the past murders but for the current murders he is not responsible.

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That episode was legend. The last 8 minutes were fucking done in a single shot. It's that moment when you realise the camera hasn't cut away. AMAZING.

 

The most interesting part was when Hart and Rust both lie about Rusts leave of absence, during the time they were undercover. Although the viewer get to see what really happened , the two other detectives hear the lies of both of them which was that Rust left for a specific time because his father was ill with leukamie. Why did Hart lie for Rust if they friendship is already over?

 

The teaser for next episode makes me think that the two detectives think that Rust is behind the murders, since Hart asks them ,why they always ask him about Rust and what's that about.

 

I don't think that Ledoux is the final murder. He might be the one Rust and Hart get at the end for the past murders but for the current murders he is not responsible.

 

Yeah I wonder why they lied about that part. It doesn't makes sense since both of them said that they weren't "close" anymore. Why lie if they aren't close anymore?

 

Yeah the part where Rust said "you want to say something? Get a warrant"

 

 

Honestly, I think they're up to something big. As in these serial killer is done by more than 1 killers. The first killer has been jailed, now due to some reason the new killer has resurfaced so those detectives suspected Rust.

 

I still remember when Rust said that "if you want to catch this killer then start asking for the right question" to those two detectives which I initially assumed that "the previous jailed killer is not your killer right now" or it could be "I-Rust am not the one that you wanted"

 

 

So, I suspect that our timeline will get jumbled up between the past and the future. The past killer has been jailed but as now the serial killer has resurfaced, Rust and Hart (or maybe only one of them - I suspect it will be Rust) might be looking for the new serial killer again with those two detective eyeing on both of them.

 

This series is killing me with all those riddles

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Yeah I wonder why they lied about that part. It doesn't makes sense since both of them said that they weren't "close" anymore. Why lie if they aren't close anymore?

 

Yeah the part where Rust said "you want to say something? Get a warrant"

 

 

Honestly, I think they're up to something big. As in these serial killer is done by more than 1 killers. The first killer has been jailed, now due to some reason the new killer has resurfaced so those detectives suspected Rust.

 

I still remember when Rust said that "if you want to catch this killer then start asking for the right question" to those two detectives which I initially assumed that "the previous jailed killer is not your killer right now" or it could be "I-Rust am not the one that you wanted"

 

 

So, I suspect that our timeline will get jumbled up between the past and the future. The past killer has been jailed but as now the serial killer has resurfaced, Rust and Hart (or maybe only one of them - I suspect it will be Rust) might be looking for the new serial killer again with those two detective eyeing on both of them.

 

This series is killing me with all those riddles

I think Ledoux is just a piece of a big puzzle and I'm sure both Hart and Rust know that. I think Hart was the one giving up the case and maybe that's why Rust and Hart had this whole "friendship over" thing, because Rust still wanted to go further.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This is the guy that is probably involved in that whole murder aswell. Overall this scene was unnecessary, so why would the producers put that scene if it's not significant for something?

 

Besides one of the victim that was chased in the woods said something about a spaghetti monster with green ears. If you would give that dude some earmuffs that are green, then he would totally look like the monster imo

[Rhyme]

Hmm. Your theory is plausible LOL

 

 

Damn this theory is killing me rn.

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Hmm. Your theory is plausible LOL

 

 

Damn this theory is killing me rn.

 

At the end it's someone nobody predicted trust me lol. Someone even suggested that Maggies dad could molest one of the daughters but idk.

 

Anyway the murder should be scared because fucking Rust is badass

 

 

 

He basically owned everyone.

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At the end it's someone nobody predicted trust me lol. Someone even suggested that Maggies dad could molest one of the daughters but idk.

 

Anyway the murder should be scared because fucking Rust is badass

 

 

 

He basically owned everyone.

 

He's a bodyguard material

 

Fast thinking, strong, fast response, calculative

 

 

Omg I'm having Rust feeling lol

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He's a bodyguard material

 

Fast thinking, strong, fast response, calculative

 

 

Omg I'm having Rust feeling lol

One of the best scenes of episode 4:

 

 

 

Anyway I get what you mean. I have a major crush on the past Rust