GrumpyCatt 374 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 And would be kind enough to explain? ^^ Is it like akb48 or something? o.O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocumentaLy 6,033 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 It's not like AKB48 because being a Johnny is a career, not a phase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one_day.mp3 147 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 isn't Johnny a person? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
analyna 2,090 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Nope, not in the slightest. Johnny's Entertainment is a mega huge company owned by Johnnny Kitagawa which only debuts male groups since their one female group flopped over 30 years ago.There are Johnny's Juniors who are not assigned or placed into any groups and act as back dancers for the senior groups during concerts where they sometimes get to perform,or help out at handshake events,there's also a tv show where you get to see them.Juniors are normally young and get exposed to the public where they can then start to garner fans before debut. While as Juniors, the guys are placed into groups with others who they train and practice with. Almost every year Johnnys or JE debuts one male group consisting of a popular Johnny Juniors group. They then push and promote them like they do their regular artists. They also hold an annual New Year's concert for the entire company but their established and popular artists like Arashi hold their new years concerts separately. If you have any other questions feel free to ask. It gets kind of complicated when you start going into the different factions and who runs who and marriage and such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odd_walls 1,024 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Nope, not in the slightest. Johnny's Entertainment is a mega huge company owned by Johnnny Kitagawa which only debuts male groups since their one female group flopped over 30 years ago.There are Johnny's Juniors who are not assigned or placed into any groups and act as back dancers for the senior groups during concerts where they sometimes get to perform,or help out at handshake events,there's also a tv show where you get to see them.Juniors are normally young and get exposed to the public where they can then start to garner fans before debut. While as Juniors, the guys are placed into groups with others who they train and practice with. Almost every year Johnnys or JE debuts one male group consisting of a popular Johnny Juniors group. They then push and promote them like they do their regular artists. They also hold an annual New Year's concert for the entire company but their established and popular artists like Arashi hold their new years concerts separately. If you have any other questions feel free to ask. It gets kind of complicated when you start going into the different factions and who runs who and marriage and such. So, on the other hand... Johnny Junior are trainees? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
analyna 2,090 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 So, on the other hand... Johnny Junior are trainees? Basically,however they don't seem to be under contract, can leave when they please and are not subjected to rigorous lessons and training like they do in kpop. Therefore when they debut they owe JE nothing and just get paid their regular salary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyCatt 374 Posted December 21, 2016 Author Share Posted December 21, 2016 Nope, not in the slightest. Johnny's Entertainment is a mega huge company owned by Johnnny Kitagawa which only debuts male groups since their one female group flopped over 30 years ago.There are Johnny's Juniors who are not assigned or placed into any groups and act as back dancers for the senior groups during concerts where they sometimes get to perform,or help out at handshake events,there's also a tv show where you get to see them.Juniors are normally young and get exposed to the public where they can then start to garner fans before debut. While as Juniors, the guys are placed into groups with others who they train and practice with. Almost every year Johnnys or JE debuts one male group consisting of a popular Johnny Juniors group. They then push and promote them like they do their regular artists. They also hold an annual New Year's concert for the entire company but their established and popular artists like Arashi hold their new years concerts separately. If you have any other questions feel free to ask. It gets kind of complicated when you start going into the different factions and who runs who and marriage and such. Thank you so much ^^ So when someone says theyre a fan of Johnny's, theyre referring to a specific group or....? Are they similar to nct? btw how do i see the groups or juniors? I want to stan but idk where to find them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
analyna 2,090 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Thank you so much ^^ So when someone says theyre a fan of Johnny's, theyre referring to a specific group or....? Are they similar to nct? They're probably a fan of the groups in the company. Kind of like how there are YG family and SM Town fans. Not much people are a fan of the actual man for a variety of reasons. They are different to NCT as NCT seems to be a rotational type of group.Think of them like a normal kpop company which only debuts male groups so just like how SM has multiple groups under their roster so does JE they just do it on a much larger scale as the company is so huge. Imagine one company owning 85% of all popular male idol groups. NCT is more of a male version of AKB in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple_Rin 489 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 A fan of Johnny's usually like a few groups under Johnny's. I dont know much abt NCT to comment. U can watch Johnny's junior on their tv show, the shounen club, there are a bunch of them on youtube. Several debuted group also regular on shounen club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Jung 19,680 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 isn't Johnny a person? The company's name is Johnny's Entertainment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midna 2,032 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 I like Arashi but I don't consider myself a Johnnys fan. Also, JE acts are under different labels sometimes. Johnny is a jimusho--management company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maj 746 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Johnnys is a nickname for a talent agency Johnny & Associates and for talent represented by them. They itself are a male idol management agency, not a label, though they own several labels that their talent belongs to (like JE - Johnny's Entertainment and J Storm). But people represented by them are also signed to other labels. Idols under them don't just belong to groups, there are also soloists and some that are purely actors. The trainees are called Johnnies Juniors and they are not necessarily young kids, though they usually start young. Debut is more of a lucky chance than a certainty. They have something like a hundred people as Juniors, probably more, but there's a lot of fluctuation - people leave and join; the contracts only get rock-solid once they debut and while we don't know a lot about them we know they are shorter than kpop ones and then they negotiate each new one. A lot of trainees end up as managers , dancers, take on bit roles - or they simply leave. In main difference with kpop and most other entertainment industries it's not a profit sharing scheme, but the debuted idols are employees of the company that get a salary (so they get paid even when they are not making money at all and on the other hand they are not super-rich even if their group alone makes more revenue than than most kpop agencies). Of course the most successful idols are paid a lot more than the not successful ones. One the + side, that means the company is vested in getting jobs for all the talent they manage. They also don't treat idols like they are past expiry date - they proved a group can do well in their 40 if they are managed properly and given appropriate jobs. The main money maker is not music, even for the idols that are technically in music groups and sell heaps of records and hold sold-out dome concerts. Main money comes from TV (hosting, variety, dramas) and commercials. They are known for not being a fan of direct competition, they (as in the company) often bargins with it's idols, from 'bundling/package-dealing' them by sending another idol with the idol a drama/show actually wants, to get the lesser known/newer idols jobs&exposure. J&A forbids public SNS presence for its idols, forbids taking pictures of its idols (though paparazzi do it all the time). The idols generally don't do handshakes or such organised direct-contact events. The company is very good at removing content from the YT. Music videos are not posted publicly. Concert tickets are lottery (literally). You have to enter a lottery for a chance to buy a ticket. Re-sell value for some of the more hard to get to groups are astronomical, though J&A fights a hard battle against re-sellers and scalpers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple_Rin 489 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Wow above explaination is super good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitedove 1,849 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 @mayayaya Very good explanation! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obelisk 425 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Nope, not in the slightest. Johnny's Entertainment is a mega huge company owned by Johnnny Kitagawa which only debuts male groups since their one female group flopped over 30 years ago.There are Johnny's Juniors who are not assigned or placed into any groups and act as back dancers for the senior groups during concerts where they sometimes get to perform,or help out at handshake events,there's also a tv show where you get to see them.Juniors are normally young and get exposed to the public where they can then start to garner fans before debut. While as Juniors, the guys are placed into groups with others who they train and practice with. Almost every year Johnnys or JE debuts one male group consisting of a popular Johnny Juniors group. They then push and promote them like they do their regular artists. They also hold an annual New Year's concert for the entire company but their established and popular artists like Arashi hold their new years concerts separately. If you have any other questions feel free to ask. It gets kind of complicated when you start going into the different factions and who runs who and marriage and such. I never knew this. It doesn't even sounds natural anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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