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It seems like there are a lot of threads being dedicated to getting rid of acne and people seeking advice, so I decided to make a thread that probably won't catch on about getting clear skin where people can share tips and products. I'm not a dermatologist or an esthetician. 

Remember that the majority of products recommended are treatments--not solutions. If you're seeking a product recommendation or giving a recommendation, you need to include info about your skin because if someone has the same type of skin, you're more likely to have similar results. The most important factors are in red.

Info to include

  • What's your race? (I'm not sure if that effects the results, but it wouldn't hurt to share.)
  • What's your age? If you're not comfortable with giving that out, are you over or under 21?
  • How light or dark is your skin? You can use the MAC foundation colors for a match. (It doesn't have to be the EXACT same color for giving a recommendation, but it should be in the same ballpark. (Also, ignore the whole "foundation-has-to-be-two-shades-lighter-than-your-skin-tone" because that just complicates things.) If your face is paler than your body (which it probably will be, especially if you wash your face often) choose the color of whatever body part that there's acne. Here's a link to one of their random foundations for a match. http://www.maccosmetics.com/product/13847/10180/Products/Makeup/Face/Foundation/Pro-Longwear-Foundation
  • Oily, dry, combination?
  • Frequent breakouts on the forehead, cheeks, nose, chin, etc?
  • Are you using any kind of face makeup regularly? Liquid, powder, concealers? What brand is it? Is it noncomedogenic (Makeup that doesn't clog your pores)? Unfortunately, not all companies will provide that info. 
  • What type of acne do you get? Do you get comedonal, papular, or cystic acne? Some of these are a bit gross, but if you want info, click the spoiler http://www.thelovevitamin.com/2401/type-of-acne/#.UuNU4BAo7IU/
  • Clear, almost clear, mild, moderate, or severe? Click the spoiler above for the qualifications. (It's around the end of the page.)
  • Do you eat a lot of salty, sugary, or greasy food a lot?
  • Do you or have you used any kind of drugs? Alcohol? Cigarettes? Are you on any prescribed medication?
  • Is your skin sensitive?
  • Are you stressed right now?
  • How many hours of sleep do you typically get?
  • For acne scars, do you have ones that are brown/black or ice picks (which is sort of a dent in your skin).
  • If you're seeking help for acne on your neck, legs, chest, shoulders, back, or whatever say the acne type.
  • If you're looking for eye cream recommendations, state if you've got any dryness, oiliness, fine lines, etc.
  • Include your results of whatever skincare products you're recommending to people.

I know some of the tips are repeated in the two videos, but there are also some tips one another didn't share.
http://youtu.be/jyCUMF6lXZs

You can follow this girl's acne series. It's pretty good, BUT don't wander to her other skincare videos because I know she's recommended some bad things (particularly her exfoliating video).
http://youtu.be/05Ie5YZ4wU4

More Tips for Every Skin Type

 

Prevention

  • If you're a makeup wearer, you should give your skin breaks from it--even if it's noncomedogenic (skin that doesn't clog your pores).
  • Try to lay on your back when you're sleeping. If you can't fall asleep that way, use a silk pillowcase.
  • Use clean pillow cases. You can use 7 pillow cases and change them every day, and wash them all once a week.
  • Make sure the towel or washcloth or whatever is clean. If you don't want to wash your towel or switch them out every so often, you might just want to use a separate towel that's just for your face.
  • Clean your phones and glasses often. Your skin's oil will rub off on them, and when you put it back on your face, you're putting the oil back on your face too.
  • Really, anything that touches your face should be clean.
  • Side affect of some medicines include more acne, but don't skip out on your medicine just because you want clear skin! Try talking with your doctor about medications.

Cleansing

  • Even if your skin is oily, you need to moisturize after washing your face.
  • DON'T use facial cleansers that contain fragrance. Sometimes the stuff they put in them to make them smell that way are bad for your skin.
  • Count to 60 while washing your skin. You'll be able to remove more oil and/or makeup. This is why the Clarisonic's timer adds up to 60 seconds. (No, I don't recommend the Clarisonic to everyone.)
  • DON'T cleanse your face too much. I'd recommend two times a day: one in the morning and one at night. Three times at the most.

Product Application

  • When applying a treatment, don't push your finger into your skin with a lot of force. Some people think that the product will penetrate into your skin deeper, but you're really just damaging your skin or even making the acne worse.
  • Before applying products, wash your hands because some of the dirt on your fingers can transfer onto your skin.
  • Before you apply a facial mask, cleanse.
  • Be careful when using products that contain benzoyl peroxide. You should be able to find it on the back of the container (or maybe even the front.) Benzoyl peroxide, when used in excess, can dry out your skin--even if your skin type is oily. The amount that people should use varies from person to person. Measure the amount by lining the side of your finger with the product. For example, I measure the amount to one digit of my finger.
  • I don't recommend using dermarollers no matter what the size.

Diet

  • Green and spearmint tea, water, avocados, berries, tomatoes, fish, bananas, and carrots are all good drinks and foods for your skin.
  • Sodium, MSG, salt, soy sauce, etc. will darken your scars.
  • Stay away from greasy foods and alcohol.
  • It should be noted that a healthy diet = good skin is only a myth.

DIYs

  • Don't trust every single DIY you see out there. A lot of the people who give out these recipes don't do enough research on them.
  • Please watch these 2 videos to know which ones are bad and good. (Don't forget to read the description in the ones you should try.)
  • If there's a DIY out there that doesn't mention these ingredients, PLEASE do proper research. Don't just scratch the surface. Look for multiple, reputable resources.

http://youtu.be/4lrZqiqoZGA

http://youtu.be/CG6_H5caJ6A

Learning

  • Do research on the ingredients found in products. 
  • In most products, the ingredients listed at the top are the ones used in the largest quantities. For example, if you see water at the top of the list (which happens often), that product contains a lot of water.
  • Here is an ingredient dictionary you can refer to http://www.paulaschoice.com/cosmetic-ingredient-dictionary/
  • You need to question every bit of advice you get. You can even question this OP.
  • I recommend this website to learning more about skincare. It gets a little science orientated though. http://www.paulaschoice.com/expert-advice/skin-care-advice/

Other random tips that I couldn't figure out how to categorize

  • USE FACIAL MASKS. It's one of the strongest skin treatments. Be sure to wash/peel it off as soon as it's completely dry.
  • Get plenty of sleep. Get at least 7-9 hours. 
  • If you're over 21, it's typically better to use products with salicylic acid than benzoyl peroxide.
  • If you're prone to scratching, keep your nails short.
  • "Dermatologist tested" or "hypoallergenic" are things you see slapped on products' boxes. They mean nothing. Those labels shouldn't be deal breakers when searching for products. 
  • Last resort: Please DON'T use this method unless you've tried a combination, if not, all of these tips listed, or people's recommendations AREN'T working for you AFTER 3 MONTHS.This is a very intense treatment, and it has to be done very precisely.

http://youtu.be/9XnF8CfJhEc

SOME WARNINGS TO THIS METHOD: 

  • Your face will get SO DRY. It will hurt to do so much as smile.
  • While although this method clears your acne, it comes at the cost of very red zits for a while. 

Some Other Things to This Method

  • Didn't you say in an earlier tip not to use a product with benzoyl peroxide in excess? Yes, I did. But like I said, this is a LAST RESORT. The reason you're using so much benzoyl peroxide is because of the way that it works. It goes in and kills the acne. Salicylic acid, the other thing most commonly found in acne treatments, works differently. Instead, it works to clean out your pores, and it's definitely not as harsh.
  • I'd recommend keeping up with this method for 4 months, but it might be different for everyone.
  • After the 4 months or whatever time, cut down the amount of product.

If you want a specific product recommendation for this method, I'd recommend Cetaphil Cleansing Lotion to wash your face. You should also get OXY 10 which comes in the specific strength of 2.5; however, I'm not sure if that's an over-the-counter product. I've also heard sunscreen is a good moisturizer for this because it's very emollient and greasy.


What I use

Spoiler

 

I'm Asian with the skin tone NC35 (a little pale). I've got combination skin with moderate papules, pustules and rare cysts. No drugs. Typically 7 hours of sleep. Sensitive skin. Typically use Coastal Scents eclipse palette and Maybelline's Pure BB in light sheer tint (this has a bit of salicylic acid). I get stressed a lot. I often eat salty food. My scars are brownish.

I currently use these

 

Acne Free's 24 hour Severe Acne Clearing System

Neutrogena's Alcohol-Free Toner

I might just be a toner whore, but I always run out of Acne Free's toner, so I just use that instead of buying a whole new pack, since they're not sold individually.

 

Neutrogena's Fresh Foaming Cleanser

I only use this at night, because it does a good job of removing makeup. (Fragrance is listed at the bottom of ingredients.)

 

Simple's Protecting Light Moisturizer SPF 15

I mostly use this if my skin is a little drier than usual, or if it's been a while since I last used the AcneFree stuff, I'll use oil blotting sheets and then this before I apply makeup. 

 

Yes to Blueberries' Softening Facial Exfoliator

This scrub is meh. It's a physical exfoliant, and fragrance is listed at the bottom of ingredients. I try to use a washcloth rather than this.

 

Freeman's Facial Clay Mask: Avocado and Oatmeal

I mostly use this when I feel my skin just needs some more help. I also use it as a spot treatment. Fragrance is listed at the bottom of the ingredients.

 



Seeking Professional Help

  • If the product recommendations here do not work for you, seek professional help.
  • I would much rather recommend you see an esthetician rather than a dermatologist. Dermatologists are mostly here for skin diseases instead of skincare. If you do want to see a dermatologist, I recommend that you see a cosmetic dermatologist. Skincare is an esthetician's main focus, which is why I recommend them more.
  • Just because a dermatologist recommends skincare treatments doesn't make them infallible. 
  • When seeking an esthetician, look for a reputable one that's been around for a while. The beauty schools don't work on making them the best estheticians ever. A lot of their knowledge comes from self study. There are bad estheticians out there.
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You'll never 100% get rid of acne. The stuff you see in stores are treatments-not solutions. What type of skin do you have? That affects the results of these products A LOT. (Include if it's oily, dry, combination, common breakouts on forehead, cheeks, nose, etc, and what type of acne)

I used these 3 and they all did a pretty good job. Just be careful if you buy these because these products all contain benzoyl peroxide which can dry out your skin if you use too much (even if you have oily skin). 

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You better find out what is causing the acne. I used to have them too, and when I went to a local dermatologist, he prescribed some lotions etc. I told him my skin was dry (surprising right), so I am going to need a super heavy moisturiser if the meds he prescribed me are going to make my skin dry. He just said the moisturizer he prescribed me is fine.

 

Of course, for the whole month my face was itching like hell because it was so dry. Further more, I stay in air con whole day so my skin was so dry it was flaking.

 

After a month, I went back and he was surprised to see I got flakes (it wasn't noticeable but if you are near me, you can def see it) and prescribed me a stronger moisturiser. I went to him for another 6 months, while my skin got better, but it was never clear.

 

I finally finished my scholarship so I couldn't afford him anymore (was paying $100 per visit), so I decided to self medicate. I can feel that my skin is dry, so what I did was just get skincare that has moisturizing properties. This goes against the rule of acne, because acne is normally caused by oily skin. I can feel that once I put on the moisturizing skincare that my skin was thanking me. Guess what, I went CLEAR after a month. So much for all the "professional help" and money I spent on. I tried everything - benzoyl peroxide, salicylic acid, apple cider toner etc - but those things strip away more moisture.

 

Now, with the occasional zit I have - I am using 1% Clindamycin phosphate gel - it's an antibiotic, doesn't dry out at all, and pimple will be surpressed by 2-3 days, but the red mark will probably stay on for a while depends on severity. The only thing is that you need to constantly use Clindamycin until the pimple disappear because you don't want bacterias to gain immunity to it (much like how normal antibiotics work, you need to finish the full course). Clindamycin needs to be prescribed from where I am from.

 

My advice is know your skin well, and work from then on. Work with a dermatologist if needed, but make sure your concerns are aired and taken note of. If it isn't, he is probably not a very good dermatologist.

 

Sorry for the lengthy post. I just hope nobody went through what I did. It was a very humbling and low self-esteem episode that I went through.

Some of the things you said, I can see why you had problems. Acne can be caused by several factors; not just oil. The main thing that causes acne is sebum which IS oily, but if you have dry skin, you still need to moisturize. Benzoyl peroxide will only dry out your skin if you use too much than your skin can take.

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Hijacking my own thread, the sheer rudity

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I didn't hijack it.

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Don't worry I don't actually care, I really would rather my answer was answered than anything

The mod said he/she accidentally merged our threads when he/she was cleaning up the section.

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Acnefree company needs to be burned  :>_>:

 

I used it for a week recently and it made my skin worse. 

lots of redness 

burn spots

zits in places i never had them before

Lets just say my face looks like a pizza. 

 

I stopped using it for a few days so far the redness has gone down a little. 

 

Last year I used proactiv throughout the year. It barely worked. 

How much did you use? I'd only do this as a last resort, but I heard that putting on an entire line of product containing benzoyl peroxide all over your face will cause it to be red; however, it made his acne go away. Acne Free was like the one product that helped my acne 

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not much 

just the right amount in the morning and night 

Acne Free has benzoyl peroxide which can dry out your skin. Did you have that?

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Those with acne should try the caveman regiman (+ eating a relatively healthy diet, w/out any processed shit in it, ur skin is a reflection of whts going inside ur body):
http://www.thelovevitamin.com/3135/caveman-regimen/#.UumKKGJOnFo

I swear by it tht it works & I'm a person whose had pimples since elementary school & went to having clear skin after trying it out

Best part its free

(I've tried proactive, clean & clear, benzoyl peroxide, netrogena, "natural" facial cleansers, masks, facials, oil cleansers, apple cider vinegar & actually putting diff types food on my face out of desperation. None of tht shit works it ruins ur skin each & every one)

 

 

Don’t ask me if the theories are correct, and I’m certain this isn’t going to work for everyone.

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does essence = serum? can anyone recommend a good product (i think i have combination-dry skin)

Had to look it up since I don't use either. No, they're not the same thing. Essence concentrates on one specific thing such as skin whitening, hydration or acne care. Serum is just a higher concentrated form. 

 

http://www.wishtrend.com/glam/korean-skincare-products/

 

Combination skin is when your skin is both dry and oily. An example is when your T-zone is oily, but the rest of your face is dry. 

 

Just check my OP for my skin type; that's the only thing I can recommend. If yours matches closely to mine, it's more likely that you'll have similar results. 

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Ive been thinking of buying this, does it help with acne scars aswell??

I don't know. lol. I can't tell whether it's the mask I use, the Neutrogena line, or even just time (because the skin won't produce as much melanin around those areas over time). I depend on my mask for fading because I know avocado masks fade scarring. You can just make your own if you want; it's really easy.

 

http://youtu.be/e--d_n073pc

 

There's also this

http://youtu.be/uQjgg_zfAs8

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Oh thanks for the help, these videos seem interesting, never considered making my own masks or creams.

Bubzbeauty, the girl in the first video, has an endless amount of masks you can make at home. Same thing with Michelle Phan; she just put out a new one too.

 

There's also the super easy egg mask. Use the egg whites to reduce pore size and help control oil, and egg yolk as a moisturizer afterwards. That's seriously all you need. Those are probably the easiest and quickest masks out of all of them.

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The egg mask sounds great! Definitely gonna try it. I wish I knew about these natural methods before, I regrettably tried 'OXY' boy did that stuff have side effects , lucky I didn't regularly use it and cause my skin any damage but that stuff is so dangerous in my opinion

Np. It's funny, I just put something about OXY in the OP, but it's only as a last resort.

 

thanks.

 

seems like we have the same skin type. does your skin work fine with using mask every other day? i only use it every sunday, then scrub 3x a week.

My skin is fairly sensitive, and it's just fine with using them every other day. Although, I don't always keep to the schedule too well because I tend to get a little lazy when it comes to masks, but for the times I felt motivated, it was fine.

 

It's recommended that you do a minimum of one mask per week, so you should be fine. I don't use any scrubs though. If you haven't been experiencing any problems with how often you do scrubs, you should be fine.

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Does anyone here have experiences in dealing with hormonal acne? I don't know how rare my case is, but I have never had acne until I turn 20, and the areas where pimples break loose are only my forehead and chin. Sometimes my forehead is very clear, but on my chin the disgusting-looking pimples never go away. They remain small bumps and make the skin area around my lips terribly red all the time. Even though I take very good care of my skin and my body, those standard treatments that do wonder to most people (facial washing, drinking lots of water, get enough sleep, eat vegetable and fruits) don't help me at all. Not to mention that I'm very biologically vulnerable to break out should I try to eat something skin-damaging, even a bag of chips. 

I know green tea is good with dealing with hormonal acne. Hormonal acne is caused by androgens, and drinking green tea reduces the amount of androgens your body produces. It's typical for people with hormonal acne to break out along the jaw line.

 

http://youtu.be/ErztOHMHhhs

 

There's also the Chinese girl in the OP that has a video on hormonal acne. 

http://youtu.be/qBvAIPEBRwo

 

If you're a girl, it gets really bad during periods most of the time. Also, if you're on birth control, it might screw up your skin too because it deals with hormones and everything. 

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Ironically my pimples are unaffected by green tea, whether I drink it or using treatment product from tea tree; it even makes my skin hot sometimes. 

 

I thought birth control pill is actually good for your hormones. because it raises estrogen level? Some people reported their zits break loose after they stop using pills like idk. I'm currently using evening primose oil capsules to maintain hormonal balance; it seems to improve a little bit, but the following day after I had a cup of coffee my skin gets red and bumpy again. I am so jealous of people who can eat whatever they want or sleep late. (Once I pull an all-nighter for my essay; my chin become a trash land.)

How long have you been keeping up with the green tea regimen?

 

It can be in some cases. I really wouldn't wanna screw with hormones though. 

 

Sorry, I haven't really dealt with hormonal acne, so my knowledge is really limited.

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Not for long, because my skin doesn't like chemical products, so I don't usually anything on my skin except moisturizer. Not even makeup; I always go bare-faced.

 

I already knew everything I have to know about hormonal acne but just want to see if there is anyone here who has made real success with treating hormonal acne. Thanks anyway!

What? I mean like constantly drinking tea. Do you wash your face at all? You don't use ANY kind of regimen?

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LOL i thought you were referring to tea tree skin care products. Of course I do drink tea and wash my face everyday, but it doesn't help.

 

The thing is, I have a mild case (I hope) of liver stones so maybe that's why my liver is not very good at detoxifying; hence, all the pimples. 

 

 

How dangerous is accutane? I am very cautious about going on medication now for fear of messing up my skin even more.

Do you use the tips in the OP?

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All of them  :._.:.

Wait until you get more recommendations because the only thing I can tell you to do is strictly last resort. 

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Can I talk about chemical peels here? I just want to quickly rant about it.

I got mine today and my face is itchy af. 

OK

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I have read somewhere that blackheads and whiteheads can be treated with fairly simple methods, like face washing, moisturizing or using natural antiseptics, and that sounds like the mild cases of acne most people here have. But has anyone have experiences dealing with papules and pustules, or inflammatory lesions? Because they aren't just cased by dirt on your skin; they come from poor health and diet. In other words, they come from within and can't be treated by what you put on your face or paying a visit to a dermatologist. But even after knowing that and setting up a healthy diet for myself for a while, nothing changes. (I'm utterly depressed at times to the point I only go out after sunset to avoid having my skins seen in daylight).

I get pustules. Just look at the OP for my recommendations.

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I was just wondering to those Girls (or Guys) who wear make up and suffer with acne/bad skin in general how often do you wash your brushes/when to throw away sponges and what do you wash yours in? I tend to wash mine every other day unless they are super dirty and throw a sponge away once i've used it 2/3 times, because recently my skin has been horrendous and I haven't changed my skin routine/no change in diet anything so it must be something to do with my brushes. 

I don't wash them as often as I should. You're supposed to wash them everyday. I kind of just wash them whenever I feel like it. But there are a lot of other factors that come into play other than a skincare routine or diet.

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It could be I have no idea, it might be stress from my A-level mocks I've just had. Well i've been told by friends to wash my brushes pretty much everytime I use them but I don't have enough brushes to have as back ups so I can't.

Oh yeah I know there is a lot of factors just none that I can really think of as why all of a sudden and I haven't washed my brushes in a fortnight (they've been washed now :lol:) and i've just recently had a breakout so I kinda thought that, i'm probably gonna put it down to stress though

Hormonal acne is more like when you get your period or your pregnant because your body is producing a lot of androgens. 

 

Just check the OP; I think it put down just about everything that affects your skin. 

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That definitely doesn't apply to me then :lol:  :lol:

Okay I will thanks.

Oh, and puberty too. I forgot to mention that one.

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I have a feeling that this has been asked before :P but what is the best way to get rid of acne scars?

Please share what has worked best for you, thanks. ^^

is there an effective acne scar product i can get at a local drugstore (shopper's, rexall etc) i looked for that garnier sakura and it seems like it's only available in asia

 

asian products aren't easily accessible here in gta (pacific mall is like 1.5 hrs away, i can't go there as often as i'd want to)

OK, so I was looking at skin whitening products because I was curious if there were any near me, and I saw that L'Oreal has two dark spot corrector, BUT it's a bit pricey. Like it's $25 (USD) each. You'll also need to use it consistently, so you can't get lazy. You can find it in your local drugstore. It's the L'Oreal Paris Youth Code Dark Spot Correcting Serum and the Youth Code Dark Spot SPF 30 Day Cream. Obviously, I haven't tried it, but you're free to try. 

 

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it sounds like you got your life planned out! :lol: lucky you for finding skincare that works~

 

 

i actually have sensitive / combination skin so i can't use the majority of drugstore skincare :unsure: i have to rely on boscia and avene right now T_T

Yeah, since every time I mention a product you're like "That made me break out"

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Recommend me a cheap, yet good, drugstore product/face mask for blackheads T.T 

http://youtu.be/iMrjbAx8NHM

 

Sorry, I don't really deal with blackheads, so I didn't know how to answer lol

 

But don't use the lemon one

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