-masayume- 3,749 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 My love story with snsd started somewhere in 2014 and for the longest time I couldn't stand them for some reason. When I started getting more seriously into kpop they were already on top with Gee, Oh, Genie and other epic songs so I never really followed them during their rookie days. SM was already a big company back then so they've gained a lot of buzz for that. They won on a show with their debut song. And I know about 2008 Black Ocean incident. All of these gave me an impression that they were quite popular or at least known in public eye, but Gee era really skyrocketed them. Were they on Red Velvet level of popularity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purple Rain 1,501 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 I'm not sure I wasn't a kpop fan for that long Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peach 2,604 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 i think they were pretty popular before gee since into the new world was one of the popular kpop songs back then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sen-ri 1,506 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 I've also never followed them early, I always join groups at their peak lmao But from what I know, they were already pretty big because I think SM had one other popular group before SNSD?? Was it Sech kies or Shinhwa? Then there's also Super Junior, Boa and Shinee I think SNSD received a lot of hype for being the first girl group from SNSD, so they were pretty popular even as rookies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Justin Seagull* 31,298 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 Mid-tier Wonder Girls>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pre- Gee era Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunmo 3,835 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 http://onehallyu.com/topic/434846-clarification-about-snsd/ not as well known musically as wonder girls in Korea, but individually, Taeyeon and Yoona was not any bit less well known than any of the wonder girls (Sohee with her "omona" included) thanks to "If" and "You are my destiny", Hell, Yoona was even more well-known, Jang Sae-byuk was everywhere at the time (for anyone too young to know, that's Yoona's character). and the other girls appeared on TV like crazy. And SNSD as a whole only pale in comparison to wonder girls, but that's only digitally, their physical is much much more stronger than wonder girls (120k with 1 album for snsd and less than 80k with 2 for wonder girls) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
breadbutter 2,550 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 There is a pretty simple answer: they really weren't. (in terms of how Kpop girl groups are these days) [i might be wrong, but take this with a grain of salt please lol] Prior to Wonder Girls, Girl Groups weren't really a thing. Yeah there were a few scattered, but most groups were pretty much shamed into disbanding, so you got a huge reign of boybands (which is why we see the ratio we see today). Female solo vocalists were popular, but groups with the idol-ish concept weren't. Wonder Girls was HUGE after their hits, which opened the floodgates for the girl groups we see today. I wouldn't compare them to Red Velvet, since K-pop is a lot more open these days. It is hard to really compare them to any current girl group unless you look into a different genre. [i wasn't really into SM back then, so this is all pretty biased, and mostly from my perspective] But they are definitely not comparable to Red Velvet. /edit: I put it back lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnCloud9 3,397 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 They were actually pretty big, just a few steps behind WG. They were one of the three towers of WonSoKa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-masayume- 3,749 Posted November 27, 2016 Author Share Posted November 27, 2016 http://onehallyu.com/topic/434846-clarification-about-snsd/Thank you 4 the link, I've missed that thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunmo 3,835 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 Thank you 4 the link, I've missed that thread. np Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
breadbutter 2,550 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 They were actually pretty big, just a few steps behind WG. They were one of the three towers of WonSoKa. Exactly, it is just that the market for girl groups weren't as big back then, so you don't get the whole tug of war boybands had that shot some of them to the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-masayume- 3,749 Posted November 27, 2016 Author Share Posted November 27, 2016 [ actually nvm there was way too much bias in that ] But they are definitely not comparable to Red Velvet. Ahh Why did you edit your comment? I actually liked it. As long as it isn't insulting anyone I don't mind about biased opinion, regardless if I agree or not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lllll 4,309 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 I've also never followed them early, I always join groups at their peak lmao But from what I know, they were already pretty big because I think SM had one other popular group before SNSD?? Was it Sech kies or Shinhwa? Then there's also Super Junior, Boa and Shinee I think SNSD received a lot of hype for being the first girl group from SNSD, so they were pretty popular even as rookies SNSD was not SM first GG, they had SES way before and in between GGs that didn't really succeed (MILK, The grace..) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
breadbutter 2,550 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 Ahh Why did you edit your comment? I actually liked it. As long as it isn't insulting anyone I don't mind about biased opinion, regardless if I agree or not Thanks! I just know I am probably wrong lol and I don't want to make anyone angry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-masayume- 3,749 Posted November 27, 2016 Author Share Posted November 27, 2016 Thanks! I just know I am probably wrong lol and I don't want to make anyone angry.It's only a thread, no big deal. I myself always write stupid stuff lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNNIE 15,249 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 They were big. They was not no Nugu groups that people try to paint them that snatched wonder girls crown when they were away to America. They had their own crown and hype with Yoona and Taeyeon. Even Yuri at times with her body and personality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNNIE 15,249 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 Mid-tier Wonder Girls>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pre- Gee era The gap was never that large Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceprince 2,268 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 Big enough to make other fandoms petty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Justin Seagull* 31,298 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 The gap was never that large Yes it was. Internationally and in Korea. Wasn't a stan of either groups back in 08 but WG >>>>>>> SNSD before Gee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
breadbutter 2,550 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 Exactly, having an international fanbase and a song so viral it is still used to represent Kpop 10 years later definitely makes the gap large compared to being called female suju (pre-gee). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JihyoIsAQueen 787 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 They were pretty big , with a big fandom and good songs , its just wg were bigger than them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noeuljjang 1,772 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 People liked them, but more people hated them. And yeah, the thing was that wonder girls were bigger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tae. 2,448 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 Yes it was. Internationally and in Korea. Wasn't a stan of either groups back in 08 but WG >>>>>>> SNSD before Gee. It wasn't. After S.E.S and FlinKL, SNSD selftitled album was the first to hit 100K for a girlgroup. They were everywhere, shows, cf and some of them started with minor roles in dramas or films like Yoona, Yuri or Sooyoung. They had a solid fanbase and public recognition, but of course Wonder Girls was huge in that deparment thanks to Tell Me and Nobady I've also never followed them early, I always join groups at their peak lmao But from what I know, they were already pretty big because I think SM had one other popular group before SNSD?? Was it Sech kies or Shinhwa? Then there's also Super Junior, Boa and Shinee I think SNSD received a lot of hype for being the first girl group from SNSD, so they were pretty popular even as rookies Sorry but this post is a mess lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNNIE 15,249 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 Yes it was. Internationally and in Korea. Wasn't a stan of either groups back in 08 but WG >>>>>>> SNSD before Gee. At least you made it smaller. The >>>> It was small but it wasn't humongous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Justin Seagull* 31,298 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 It wasn't. After S.E.S and FlinKL, SNSD selftitled album was the first to hit 100K for a girlgroup. They were everywhere, shows, cf and some of them started with minor roles in dramas or films like Yoona, Yuri or Sooyoung. They had a solid fanbase and public recognition, but of course Wonder Girls was huge in that deparment thanks to Tell Me and Nobady I'm glad you just agreed with me. And to me, WG >>>>>>>>>>>>>> SNSD. Their songs were played EVERYWHERE. They had THREE BACK TO BACK hits. Even their WonderBang collab is still talked about the most in some PANN posts. Yall forget that SNSD were much more hated both internationally and domestically until they started being too successful with Gee and Genie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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