ethereal 20,923 Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 it's been proven time and time again that the "release a boy group first and then a girl group" strategy just isn't working for smaller companies right now. examples: b1a4 --> oh my girl infinite --> lovelyz bap --> sonamoo btob --> clc the girl groups in these cases are constantly getting the short end of the stick and not getting the expecting interest because of their lablemates like these companies are probably hoping for. so i think big hit is being very strategic in not wanting a girl group right after bts (supposedly they have no female trainees and they recently had a boys only audition). like, could you imagine a small company having two hit boy groups back to back? and actually (hopefully) being able to handle them unlike yg ? I also think that by creating a male celebrity only environment, big hit is nipping any inner-company dating rumors in the bud. (and before anyone says it, yes, i don't think big hit will be debuting another group any time soon and i hope they don't either, but they're clearly planning for one) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honey Yura 293 Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 Well idk the ark flopped even tho they were great and the "female bts" idk if it'll work out I'll feel bad if they're good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E U Ae Rin 3,784 Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 but there was an awesome big hit girl group n no one cared about them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haruwu 37,702 Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 To be fair, the intl fame of BTS doesn't really add up to the groups you listed, they aren't on the same tier when it comes to intl popularity, if a new gg debuts from BH, it'd have a lot of support from such a big fandom.. you know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ihavepopcorn 12,815 Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 But will they avoid the constant comparisons to bts, measuring up the new group's skills to theirs, their concept to theirs? I've never thought another boy group right after bts was a good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binggeul✯☽ 2,834 Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 You could be right, but it's TS and Cube's mismanagment that is causing their groups to flop. Lovelyz and OMG are actually doing well. 2NE1 was released after Big Bang and they did well, and GG after SuJu etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snatched 1,599 Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 I think Big Hit needs to stick with just BTS for a while and once BTS are at their peak, maybe debut a girl group but not until they become a stronger company with more public power Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyperpanda_0130 148 Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 I trust BigHit's decisions and I'm not too worried either way, but i heard something about them having female trainees with the rumored name "The Mysterious Bella" (?) a while back. (idk if this is true but I heard abt it somewhere) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skcebl 5,968 Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 Lovelyz is doing okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Tank 3,531 Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 lovelyz and omg are doing fine though? the only reason the other two flopped is bc of shitty management Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yukheiswift 238 Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 it's been proven time and time again that the "release a boy group first and then a girl group" strategy just isn't working for smaller companies right now. examples: b1a4 --> oh my girl infinite --> lovelyz bap --> sonamoo btob --> clc the girl groups in these cases are constantly getting the short end of the stick and not getting the expecting interest because of their lablemates like these companies are probably hoping for. so i think big hit is being very strategic in not wanting a girl group right after bts (supposedly they have no female trainees and they recently had a boys only audition). like, could you imagine a small company having two hit boy groups back to back? and actually (hopefully) being able to handle them unlike yg ? I also think that by creating a male celebrity only environment, big hit is nipping any inner-company dating rumors in the bud. (and before anyone says it, yes, i don't think big hit will be debuting another group any time soon and i hope they don't either, but they're clearly planning for one) but watch the 'who is gay?' thread have a field day with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImRight 98 Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 Groups don't become popular overnight especially if you're not in the big 3. Most of the ggs you mentioned are way better off than like 95% of ggs. Give them a chance before you write them off as a flop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ethereal 20,923 Posted November 27, 2016 Author Share Posted November 27, 2016 To be fair, the intl fame of BTS doesn't really add up to the groups you listed, they aren't on the same tier when it comes to intl popularity, if a new gg debuts from BH, it'd have a lot of support from such a big fandom.. you know? i see what you're saying, but i just have a feeling that a lot of bts fans wouldn't be as supportive of a sister group as you think. as a lovelyz fan i remember when they debuted a lot of infinite's korean fandom really hated on them. You could be right, but it's TS and Cube's mismanagment that is causing their groups to flop. Lovelyz and OMG are actually doing well. 2NE1 was released after Big Bang and they did well, and GG after SuJu etc... i'm talking about smaller companies so big 3 success stories aren't a factor here. I trust BigHit's decisions and I'm not too worried either way, but i heard something about them having female trainees with the rumored name "The Mysterious Bella" (?) a while back. (idk if this is true but I heard abt it somewhere) that "the mysterious bella" thing was all made up rumors. one of the main girls that was rumored to be in the group is not/ no longer a big hit trainee and even auditioned in jype's international audition thing a few months ago. lovelyz and omg are doing fine though? the only reason the other two flopped is bc of shitty management yeah, lovelyz and omg are doing fine but they're not where they should be and need to be. and lovelyz is somewhat suffering from mismanagement too as woolim has no plans for a comeback for them rn supposedly -.- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAUCY 44,499 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 I see a gg working out better for bighit than the groups you listed. Buy well...wv....I hope they branch out onto non idol acts too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ethereal 20,923 Posted November 27, 2016 Author Share Posted November 27, 2016 Groups don't become popular overnight especially if you're not in the big 3. Most of the ggs you mentioned are way better off than like 95% of ggs. Give them a chance before you write them off as a flop. i'm not saying any of those groups are total flops though. my main thing is that they aren't being well managed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ì–‘ ì§€ 10,015 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 lovelyz and omg are doing fine though? the only reason the other two flopped is bc of shitty management Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poeski 3,021 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 Boy groups never escape the getting compared to your predecessors thing so regardless of when they debut a boy group it will still be the same. Girl groups can get popular faster but bring in little money...so small companies might not have the luxury to debut a girl group, who require the same maintenance as boy groups, if not more when they are only gaining income from popular group before. Especially if a lot of that money goes into group. BH invests so much money into BTS. Another boy group seems practical to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EXORCIST 3,393 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 SinB and Eunha was from Big Hit; they transfered their Ace artist to SourceMusic. the Hitman Bang himself said they are not interested to debut Girl Group for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzMyGirl 385 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 lovelyz and omg are doing fine though? the only reason the other two flopped is bc of shitty management Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayou 3,955 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 I hope they debut non idol, solo rapper or rapper duo Edit typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CALICO CAT 8,999 Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 im greedy and i just want them to focus on bts in the meantime anyways, i trust bighit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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