ETB5 4,512 Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 Image copyrightAFPImage captionCritics are accusing the ruling AKP party of legitimising rape A bill which would allow men accused of raping underage girls to be cleared if they marry the girl has been preliminarily backed by Turkish MPs. The bill would pardon men only if they had sex without "force or threat" and if they married the victim. Critics say it legitimises rape and child marriage, and lets off men who are aware of their crime. Violence against women in Turkey has increased in the past decade - 40% of women report sexual or physical abuse. Statistics also show the murder rate of women increased by 1,400% between 2003 and 2010. The bill was initially approved on Thursday evening after being brought to parliament by President Recep Tayyip Erdogan's ruling Justice and Development Party (AKP). On Tuesday, MPs will debate the bill a second time before casting their final vote. Analysis - BBC's Mark Lowen, Turkey It is a highly contentious bill that has divided Turkey along its traditional secular versus conservative fault line. The aim, says the government, is not to excuse rape but to rehabilitate those who may not have realised their sexual relations were unlawful - or to prevent girls who have sex under the age of 18 from feeling ostracised by their community. There is opposition to the bill on the streets of Istanbul. Many say it will encourage men to rape. But the government will get support among its pious voter base in poorer areas where girls are married off young and the sexual abuse rate is higher. Supporters say Mr Erdogan has liberated religious women by repealing a ban on headscarves in public places. The vote on Tuesday could spark mass protests. If it passes it will likely quash the convictions of some 3,000 men accused of assaulting an under-18-year-old. But critics say as well as overlooking statutory rape (underage sex) it would legitimise child marriage. "Sexual abuse is a crime and there is no consent in it. This is what the AKP fails to understand," said Ozgur Ozel, MP for the opposition Republican People's Party, according to AFP news agency. "Seeking the consent of a child is something that universal law does not provide for." But Justice Minister Bekir Bozdag said it could help couples who have engaged in consensual sex and want to marry. "When a child is then born from this non-official union, the doctor warns the prosecutor and the man is sent to prison, putting the child and mother into financial difficulties," he said. Source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redrum 61 Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 Yikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bambieyes 213 Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 this is horrible. how could they call themselves a muslim country with this kind of disgusting laws Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meems 229 Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 It doesn't only happen in Turkey and I honestly find it to be the parent's or the girl's fault... like why on Earth would they let him get out of the hook and how could the poor girl live with him >.< So imo, the entire law should be removed and even if it stays I blame the family for accepting this nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Morgan 3,556 Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 this is horrible. how could they call themselves a muslim country with this kind of disgusting laws Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meems 229 Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 this is horrible. how could they call themselves a muslim country with this kind of disgusting laws They are more of a secular country but anywyas, it's a man made law based on absolute nothing related to Islam. It's part of their culture that it can protect the girl's reputation so she wouldn't be known to have been raped, the case ends with him marrying her, ofc she has to approve it, like the family come froward and say we can drop the charges if he marries her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fujiichu 32 Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 im disgusted by my own country i want to die bye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimchi-nyoen 11,038 Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 wut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meems 229 Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 im disgusted by my own country i want to die bye so you're Turkish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fujiichu 32 Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 so you're Turkish yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bb4 25,058 Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 disgusting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meems 229 Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 yes I wouldn't have guessed it, lol I thought you were Irani for some reason because they are the only ones I know who disapprove hadiths. anywyas, blame the ppl not the country, like yeah the country is horrible for letting this law pass but the ones in major fault are the family of the girl >.< So Turkey ppl should spread awareness about this matter and explain how this harm the girl and benefit her by nth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adda 9,200 Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 they said "rape" , but also "The bill would pardon men only if they had sex without "force or threat" so non-consensual sex without force or threat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NingNingLuv 1,635 Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 Yikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fujiichu 32 Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 I wouldn't have guessed it, lol I thought you were Irani for some reason because they are the only ones I know who disapprove hadiths. anywyas, blame the ppl not the country, like yeah the country is horrible for letting this law pass but the ones in major fault are the family of the girl >.< So Turkey ppl should spread awareness about this matter and explain how this harm the girl and benefit her by nth. really? I thought all irani muslim believe in hadiths... even I just learned about this on OH and yeah I'm sure there will be big protests about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meems 229 Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 really? I thought all irani muslim believe in hadiths... even I just learned about this on OH and yeah I'm sure there will be big protests about it mm... shia ppl in general as far as I know don't like to believe in them. Or maybe that's what I understood following my interaction with an Irani boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
____ iz testing me 539 Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 disgusting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mcran 2,290 Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 AKP did this. fuck them all AKP=Perverts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rapmon's Ahjussi Husband 2,299 Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 im disgusted by my own country i want to die bye orrrrrrrrrrr.........you could stay and change ur country Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minime 1,128 Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 Until Erdogan goes and secularism returns, my plan of visiting Istanbul is stopped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fujiichu 32 Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 I JUST HEARD THE NEWS AND THERE IS NO SUCH A THING. PM JUST SAID IT'S A LIE. HE SAID '' WE WILL NOT TOLARATE RAPISTS'' DELETE THE THREAD PLEASE, STOP SPREADING LIES. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Morgan 3,556 Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 I JUST HEARD THE NEWS AND THERE IS NO SUCH A THING. PM JUST SAID IT'S A LIE. HE SAID '' WE WILL NOT TOLARATE RAPISTS'' ok thank god, as someone who loves turkey and turkish people i was so shocked by this , its like canada announcing that they're gonna deport all non canadians or smth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ETB5 4,512 Posted November 18, 2016 Author Share Posted November 18, 2016 I JUST HEARD THE NEWS AND THERE IS NO SUCH A THING. PM JUST SAID IT'S A LIE. HE SAID '' WE WILL NOT TOLARATE RAPISTS'' DELETE THE THREAD PLEASE, STOP SPREADING LIES. Girl, this is from BBC News, calm down. I'll update it as soon as other news sources say it's false. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fujiichu 32 Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 Girl, this is from BBC News, calm down. I'll update it as soon as other news sources say it's false. and? what evidences BBC have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ETB5 4,512 Posted November 18, 2016 Author Share Posted November 18, 2016 and? what evidences BBC have? Quotes from an MP and from Justice Minister Bekir Bozdag. they said "rape" , but also "The bill would pardon men only if they had sex without "force or threat" so non-consensual sex without force or threat? If I understood correctly, this bill would "pardon", so to speak, a man in case he had sex with an underage girl. Legally, although the age of consent varies by country, and even by state, a girl who is not of age to consent cannot legally do so, even if she says she wants to have sex and even if it was her plan and not the man's. This applies in other countries as well, like the U.S. So this law would "pardon" those men as long as they marry the girl. It wouldn't apply to other rape cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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