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#1 lovelovelove681

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Posted 04 November 2016 - 05:58 PM (Edited by lovelovelove681, 06 November 2016 - 06:33 AM.)

SechsKies album sales allegations and DSP tax evasion allegations

SechsKies the founder group of Daesung (DSP Entertaiment)

Debut 1st album "School Byeolgok" (학원별곡)
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#Recording Industry Association of Korea reported SechsKies sold 520,000 copies

#Daily Sports and Korea.com reported SechsKies exceeded 600,000 copies mark in just 3 months. Show the power of monster rookie with hit after hit "school byeolgok (학원별곡)", "Remember Me", "The Way This Guy Lives (사나이 가는 길/폼생폼사)". 

 

SechsKies Kang Sung Hoon said SechsKies 1st album in their first year of debut alone sold 1,200,000 copies, yet DSP only reported 520,000 copies been sold to RIAK.

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2nd album "Welcome To The Sechskies Land"

Suspicions of sales figures
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#Sports Chosun reported SechsKies sold 1,220,000 copies for their 2nd album

#Recording Industry Association of Korea reported that SechsKies sold only 700,000 copies

The differences between the unofficial and official album report was too large. DSP said that there was an error when they generated SechsKies album sales. Once again, DSP only reported 700,000 copies been sold to RIAK . Even lower than the official sales reported by distributors.

 

By the end of 1998, OhmyNEWS reported SechsKies debut album exceeded 1,700,000 ~ 1,800,000 copies 

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3rd album "Road Fighter"

Album sales shrinking allegations
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#Korea Times reported SechsKies sold 700,000 copies or more

#Recording Industry Association of Korea reported that SechsKies sold only 360,000 copies

As you can see from the album sales copies above, DSP only reported 350,000 ~ 360,000 copies to RIAK. DSP shrunk down SechsKies album sales by more than 350,000 copies.

 

Media aware and raised the suspicions on SechsKies sales figure. DSP under reporting album sales were everywhere on the news.

Top artist Kim Hyun Jung who sold more than 600,000 copies. Yet SechsKies still swept year end awards show that their third album sales even bigger. Therefore, it became very difficult to trust the official album sales reported by DSP. Who continuously reduced SechsKies album sales. News articles are believed to be more reliable.

At that time, the record distributors for SechsKies third album was King Records and Shinnara

DSP only reported the album sales from Shinnara. DSP claimed that Shinnara and King Records were the same distributor, but the distributor clearly stated that they were separate distributors.

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#Recording Industry Association of Korea reported that SechsKies sold 305,307 copies

SechsKies Eun Ji Won said their special album sold more than 1,200,000 copies

SechsKies expected to win Daesang along with H.O.T as they are confident with their album sales yet the MC announced the winner "Fin.K.L." Later, a Sechskies fan revealed the picture of the SBS DAESANG trophy he took, and it said "Sechskies" in it.

Daesung earned a lot of money by under-reporting the physical sales of Sechs Kies in order to trick people of why Sechskies get low payments. Daesung company been investigated by the Seoul Tax Service for tax evasion allegations and underpaid wage to Sechs Kies members.

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4th album "Com’Back"

DSP and tax evasions

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#Daily sports reported SechsKies sold 600,000 copies in 2 days.

Day 1 - 350,000 copies

Day 2 - 250,000 copies

So SechsKies were very confident to renew their album sales record

By the end of September, Daily Sports reported SechsKies 4th album sales more than 700,000 copies

#Recording Industry Association of Korea reported that SechsKies sold 350,128 copies

When SechsKies fans continued to question the allegations of shrinking album sales, DSP announced the following official position on January 9, 2000:
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Seoul Tax Service said the differences between album sales reported were too much, they believe DSP tried to pay less tax.
350,000 copies of SechsKies album sales reported by DSP are unreliable. It cannot be the same figure of SechKies first day sales.

DSP was investigated on tax evasions by declining the album sales, DSP said the tax authorities asked for unreasonable taxes. In the end DSP had to pay taxes as least hundred millions won for tax evasions.

According to SechsKies distributors Dae Young AV and Shinnara official homepage, SechsKies 4th album has sold more than 1,200,000 million copies.

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#2 Olivia Colombia

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Posted 04 November 2016 - 06:06 PM

Moral: don't say shit to the members or the media about sales unless you wanna pay the gov. yo coin. 




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Posted 04 November 2016 - 06:09 PM

1,200,000 million

 

:derp: 




#4 tatertots

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Posted 04 November 2016 - 06:10 PM

Moral: don't say shit to the members or the media about sales unless you wanna pay the gov. yo coin. 

^^^ 

This 

 

But tax evasion is bad nevertheless.




#5 lovelovelove681

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Posted 04 November 2016 - 06:21 PM

1,200,000 million

 

:derp: 

 

In estimate, SechsKies sold more than 4,540,000 million copies 

 

DSP  :donthinkso:  :donthinkso: pathetic 




#6 수리수리

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Posted 04 November 2016 - 06:24 PM

where did you copy and paste this from?




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Posted 04 November 2016 - 06:24 PM (Edited by Aearom, 04 November 2016 - 06:25 PM.)

In estimate, SechsKies sold more than 4,540,000 million copies 

 

DSP  :donthinkso:  :donthinkso: pathetic 

4,540,000 million

 

 are you sure abt that  :derp:

 

I think you mean 4,540,000 




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Posted 04 November 2016 - 06:27 PM

1.2M 1.8M  :omg: wow true million sellers right here respect! 

 

but maybe their company is shady :imstupid:  




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Posted 04 November 2016 - 06:32 PM

where did you copy and paste this from?

 

https://namu.wiki/w/...

 

Inside, there are many newspaper articles regarding SechsKies album sales and DSP tax evasions 

 

A few example below 

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http://cafe.daum.net...A8&title=viewer

http://media.daum.ne...120905101706687




#10 수리수리

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Posted 04 November 2016 - 06:33 PM

https://namu.wiki/w/...

 

Inside, there are many newspaper articles regarding SechsKies album sales and DSP tax evasions 

 

A few example below 

http://newslibrary.n...blishType=00010

http://cafe.daum.net...A8&title=viewer

http://media.daum.ne...120905101706687

 

this is really interesting, i wish there were some english articles floating around




#11 lovelovelove681

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Posted 04 November 2016 - 06:33 PM

1.2M 1.8M  :omg: wow true million sellers right here respect! 

 

but maybe their company is shady :imstupid:  

 

They are H.O.T rival after all

 

Both group are the biggest rival back then and known as million seller  :ahmagah:  :ahmagah:




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Posted 04 November 2016 - 06:38 PM (Edited by lovelovelove681, 04 November 2016 - 06:39 PM.)

1.2M 1.8M  :omg: wow true million sellers right here respect! 

 

but maybe their company is shady :imstupid:  

 

DSP told the members that they flopped because they only sold 500,000 copies.

 

When in fact DSP under reporting SechsKies album sales 

 

Disbanded them when SechsKies at the peak of their career  :soul:  :soul:




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Posted 04 November 2016 - 06:41 PM

DSP told the members that they flopped because they only sold 500,000 copies.

 

When in fact DSP under reporting SechsKies album sales 

 

Disbanded them when SechsKies at the peak of their career  :soul:  :soul:

500k album flopped ? :donthinkso: wow this is sad to hear :/ it truly looks like DSP sabotage them! 




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Posted 04 November 2016 - 06:45 PM

500k album flopped ? :donthinkso: wow this is sad to hear :/ it truly looks like DSP sabotage them! 

 

Well according to DSP, only 500k albums is flopped. So they can have a reason to force disbanded SechsKies  :donthinkso:  :donthinkso:




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Posted 04 November 2016 - 06:47 PM

Well according to DSP, only 500k albums is flopped. So they can have a reason to force disbanded SechsKies  :donthinkso:  :donthinkso:

They are a FU company then!




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Posted 04 November 2016 - 06:59 PM

Well according to DSP, only 500k albums is flopped. So they can have a reason to force disbanded SechsKies :donthinkso: :donthinkso:


Wtf??

And now karma hit DSP with no mercy


#17 lovelovelove681

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Posted 04 November 2016 - 07:04 PM (Edited by lovelovelove681, 06 November 2016 - 09:01 AM.)

Wtf??

And now karma hit DSP with no mercy

Karma is a b*tch.

 




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Posted 04 November 2016 - 07:08 PM (Edited by lovelovelove681, 06 November 2016 - 09:02 AM.)

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Article: [Exclusive] 'The father of Sechs Kies' sheds tears at his sickbed

 

(Article talks about how DSP's CEO Lee Ho Yeon cried at Sechs Kies' reunion when he saw them on TV but Sechs Kies didn't bother to visit the CEO.)

Source: Sports Donga via Naver

1. [+18309, -219] Crazy ㅋㅋㅋㅋ Is this journalist insane? What kind of a nonsense... Consider the things Lee Ho Yeon did to Sechs Kies...

2. [+14984, -190] Way to rewrite the past ㅋㅋㅋㅋ They're mentioning about how Sechs Kies promoted without a contract as if it was for the sake of the group... The company tried to register a trademark with the group's name but got rejected.

3. [+14663, -211] The members were underage but they had to perform at night events on a hectic schedule. The company didn't even film music videos for their title tracks. The company didn't do proper support for the group and now what? Don't try to ride on their fame. They falsely reported Sechs Kies' physical sales and disbanded the group. I see that they're trying to grab Sechs Kies again but no matter how much media-play they do, we already have all the evidences for their past.

4. [+13312, -181] Well... There's a reason why they're not visiting you. Why are you trying to grab them after 16 years? Just stop caring about them. And I hope you get better.

5. [+11255, -129] They made underage members come to drinking parties at late night and if they didn't come, they were scolded and called arrogant. They performed at night events, had a hectic schedule, weren't fed properly, and weren't paid properly. Now he's trying to gain sympathy ㅋㅋㅋㅋ I'm so speechless. Talk about crocodile tears...

6. [+3823, -18] 1) 5~6 schedules a day. At night, they had to perform at adult clubs. 2) No music videos for 2nd and 4th album title tracks. HOT fans would know that music videos were very critical during the time. For the 3rd album's title track Road Fighter, the director volunteered to spend his own money to film their music video. 3) The manager beat up the members. After disbanding, one of the members confessed in an interview. The members were hit for no reason. Fans were also hit. The manager always carried a stick and threatened and hit fans. They're a gang. 4) Under-reporting physical sales.

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Source: Nate

1. [+2191, -27] Sechs Kies disbanded because of their bad relationship with the company

2. [+2135, -26] If DSP has some shame, they should keep their mouth shut. Father of Sechs Kies, my ass.

3. [+1884, -26] Is he kidding? He's the one that disbanded the group.

4. [+287, -2] Why do you think Sechs Kies fans destroyed Jo Young Goo's car? Because they thought it was yours. The interviews of the members' parents give away the answer. The members were sleeping but they were called to drinking parties to serve. Lee Jaejin and Kim Jaeduk weren't from the city so they always practiced at the company building and got beat up a lot. The members were slaves with no contract. They blocked Ko Jiyong's career after disbanding. Ko Jiyong got furious and left the entertainment industry. Who is he to be talking ㅋㅋㅋ

5. [+237, -5] I do thank him for forming Sechs Kies but this article makes me speechless ㅋㅋ If they have some shame, then they should never say, "The members should've visited CEO Lee before YG."

6. [+231, -2] Sechs Kies members were so innocent... They could've sued the company...

7. [+218, -2] Called underage members to drinking parties. Beat up the members and had no contract. Lee Jaejin already said what the members wanted was changing their company, not disbanding. How can he call himself the father of Sechs Kies?

8. [+201, -3] So frustrating... If it wasn't DSP, we would be seeing Ko Jiyong on TV... Stay quiet and be nice to your current artists.




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Posted 04 November 2016 - 08:04 PM (Edited by H.O.T. Forever, 04 November 2016 - 08:04 PM.)

WOW I DIDN'T KNOW SECHSKIES WERE MILLION SELLERS. MAYBE 500K-800K BUT 1 MILLION? IF THAT IS TRUE, THEN I HAVE NOTHIN TO SAY.




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Posted 05 November 2016 - 01:58 AM

WOW I DIDN'T KNOW SECHSKIES WERE MILLION SELLERS. MAYBE 500K-800K BUT 1 MILLION? IF THAT IS TRUE, THEN I HAVE NOTHIN TO SAY.

Sechskies were million sellers. Their fandom not big for nothing. Media released the correct sale figure and its all over the news.

DSP think people are stupid or something

Karma they had to paid hundreds million won of taxes and their company now shurnk to the bottom with all the lies

They used to be big 2 along with SM

Now they on the ver of dept and bankrupt

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