Xiaoshu 175 Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 By Alexis Romero (The Philippine Star) | Updated October 21, 2016 - 12:00am BEIJING – President Duterte announced yesterday that he is cutting military and economic ties with the United States and is veering towards China, in a dramatic foreign policy shift that his officials said would open more opportunities for the Philippines. In a 40-minute speech peppered with expletives, Duterte said the US has been arrogant and has been imposing its policies on other countries, including the Philippines, its traditional partner and ally. “In this venue, I announce my separation from the United States both in the military… not social, but economics also,†Duterte said, drawing a standing ovation from businessmen during the Philippines-China Trade and Investment Forum. “I have separated from them so I will be dependent on you for a long time, but don’t worry, we will also help.†At a gathering of the Filipino community last Wednesday, he had the same message to the US: “It’s about time to say: goodbye my friend. Your stay in my country was for your own benefit.†Yesterday he said the US had “lost†and he had realigned the Philippines with China and Russia in a “triumvirate… against the world.†Duterte said he had agreed to resolve a maritime dispute with China through talks. He also bared plans to visit Russia and talk with President Vladimir Putin about strengthening ties. In his remarks before Filipino expats, Duterte said the US has taken the Philippines for granted and has interfered in its affairs. He said he would not visit the US during his term and indicated he might require Americans to get visas for entry to the Philippines. “I will not go to America anymore. We will just be insulted there,†he said. “America? I cannot go there because they won’t give me a visa.†Duterte said a provincial mayor was humiliated when he was denied a visa even if he was invited for a month-long study under the aegis of the US Agency for International Development. He did not identify the mayor, but there are unconfirmed reports that he was denied the visa. “The problem is you go to America, you aren’t issued a visa,†he said. “But they can enter the Philippines any time visa-free. Why don’t we get even?†His audience laughed. Duterte also complained about the supposed refusal of the US to sell missiles for the Philippines’ lead-in fighter trainer jets. He also belittled the contribution of the US to the Philippines’ educational system, which gave the country an edge in English proficiency. “Do not tell us that you have provided us with education. We would have survived if there was no education in my country at that time. We would have invited one better than what they have given us,†he said. Duterte’s economic managers said his new policy would open the Philippines to trade and investment opportunities in the region. ‘Brothers’ At Beijing’s Great Hall of the People, Xi told Duterte he hoped the latter’s “milestone†visit could help “fully improve†ties, which have suffered from the dispute over territories in the West Philippine Sea and South China Sea. Xi told Duterte China and the Philippines were brothers and that the two sides could “appropriately handle disputes,†although Xi did not specifically mention the South China Sea row in comments in front of reporters. “I hope we can follow the wishes of the people and use this visit as an opportunity to push China-Philippines relations back on a friendly footing and fully improve things,†he said. Following their meeting, during which Duterte said relations with China had entered a new “springtime,†Chinese vice foreign minister Liu Zhenmin said the South China Sea issue was not the sum total of relations. “The two sides agreed that they will do what they agreed five years ago, that is to pursue bilateral dialogue and consultation in seeking a proper settlement of the South China Sea issue,†Liu said. The two countries would return to the track of dialogue and consultation in seeking a proper settlement of the territorial issue, Liu told reporters after the Xi-Duterte meeting. China claims most of the energy-rich South China Sea and the West Philippine Sea through which about $5 trillion in ship-borne trade passes every year. Neighbors Brunei, Malaysia, Taiwan and Vietnam also have claims. In 2012, China seized Scarborough Shoal – claimed by Beijing as Huangyan island and by Manila as Panatag – and denied Filipino fishermen access to its rich fishing grounds. Liu said the issue was not mentioned and did not answer a question about whether Philippine fishermen would be allowed to fish there. The Chinese official did say both countries agreed on coast guard and fisheries cooperation. He did not give details. ‘3 of us against the world’ Duterte said that with his “separation†from the US, he has “realigned†himself with China’s “ideological flow†and is considering visiting Russia to formally cement a renewed alliance. “America has lost now,†Duterte told Chinese and Philippine business people at a forum in the Great Hall of the People, attended by Chinese Vice Premier Zhang Gaoli. “I’ve realigned myself in your ideological flow and maybe I will also go to Russia to talk to Putin and tell him that there are three of us against the world – China, Philippines and Russia. It’s the only way,†he added. “With that, in this venue, your honors, in this venue, I announce my separation from the United States,†Duterte said to applause. “I have separated from them. So I will be dependent on you for all time. But do not worry. We will also help as you help us.†China has pulled out all the stops to welcome Duterte, including a marching band complete with baton-twirling band master at his official welcoming ceremony outside the Great Hall of the People, which most leaders do not get. Trade Secretary Ramon Lopez said $13.5 billion in deals would be signed. Beijing has welcomed the Philippines’ efforts to embrace China, even as Duterte has vowed not to surrender any sovereignty to Beijing, which views the ruling of The Hague-based Permanent Court of Arbitration in favor of Manila as null and void. Duterte on Wednesday said the arbitration case would “take the back seat†during talks, and that he would wait for the Chinese to bring up the dispute rather than doing so himself. Duterte’s congenial tone in Beijing is in contrast to the language he has used with Washington, having called US President Barack Obama a “son of a b***h†and railed against US criticism of his war on drugs which has led to the deaths of over 3,000 people. While his hard-line drug war tactics have raised concerns in Western capitals about extrajudicial killings, China has expressed support. Beijing will also restore Philippine agricultural exports to China and provide financing for Philippine infrastructure, Liu said. “The Chinese people are passionate about peace,†the Chinese foreign ministry said in a statement, citing Xi. Xi said that issues which can’t immediately be resolved should be temporarily set aside, according to the statement. Deals signed The Philippines and China signed yesterday several agreements, including a deal seeking to form a joint body that would promote maritime cooperation between the two countries. Duterte and Xi witnessed the signing of the agreements – a development seen as a confidence-building measure between the two countries whose ties were strained by the West Philippine Sea and South China Sea dispute. The agreements covered a wide range of areas including trade, tourism, agriculture, security, health and infrastructure. “President Duterte’s current state visit to China is indeed a milestone in the bilateral relations. It will usher in the bilateral cooperation into a new stage and it will signify the full recovery of friendship and cooperation between the two countries,†Liu said in a press briefing after the signing ceremony. One of the documents signed was a memorandum of understanding (MOU) on the establishment of a joint coast guard committee on maritime cooperation. It was not clear whether the agreement would grant Filipino fishermen access to Panatag Shoal and other areas in the West Philippine Sea seized by China. “The signing of cooperation agreement between coast guards of the two countries means that the two countries will start cooperation on maritime affairs,†Liu said. Also signed was a protocol on cooperation between the Philippine Drug Enforcement Agency and the Narcotics Control Bureau of the Ministry of Public Security of China. The document seeks to promote cooperation in the fight against illegal drugs, a centerpiece program of the Duterte administration. http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2016/10/21/1635809/goodbye-us-hello-china Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your Juan and only 5,432 Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 K Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogre Shrek 8,980 Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 It's true the US is not altruistic but will act only if it is in her own self interest... but it is naïve to expect that China would behave differently. This re-alignment (from the US to China) represents a huge, huge gamble that President Duterte is making on behalf of the Philippines. For his own sake and for the sake of his country, I really hope things turn out positive for the Filipinos... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frogurt 7,163 Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 I wonder what kind of civil conflict this will lead to. This guy is nuts and doesn't realize that most of the Philippines loves the U.S., not to mention they've been developing business ties with us for the past 15 years and mostly speak English as a second language. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzz 1,238 Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 It's true the US is not altruistic but will act only if it is in her own self interest... but it is naïve to expect that China would behave differently. This re-alignment (from the US to China) represents a huge, huge gamble that President Duterte is making on behalf of the Philippines. For his own sake and for the sake of his country, I really hope things turn out positive for the Filipinos... I read somewhere that countries in Africa were given bitter lessons by China. Also, Thailand and Laos were slapped with China's pan-asia railway project. For example, China designs the contract in the way that every single material, including rock and cement, must be imported from China. Not to mention the sea territory conflict between China and Philippines, in which China claimant of the sea was to the point that Filipino fishermen could not fish. Good luck Philippines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen's Mine 993 Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 The different between USA and China USA talks about Invasions China talks about Investments USA talks about Wars China talks about Cooperation and Trades Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DramaticTaeyeon" 2,851 Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 The different between USA and China USA talks about Invasions China talks about Investments USA talks about Wars China talks about Cooperation and Trades Lmaoooooooo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eye 23 Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 chinese superstar tzuyu is so popular here in the philippines! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freebandz 28 Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 chinese superstar tzuyu is so popular here in the philippines! [emoji12] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syrup 58 Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 chinese superstar tzuyu is so popular here in the philippines! she's taiwanese tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen's Mine 993 Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 she's taiwanese tho Please state official name of Taiwan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coinbeans 2,324 Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 I wonder what kind of civil conflict this will lead to. This guy is nuts and doesn't realize that most of the Philippines loves the U.S., not to mention they've been developing business ties with us for the past 15 years and mostly speak English as a second language. Are you suggesting that the Philippines should remain as the puppet of the US? And if the leader reaches out to Russia and China the country will turn into a communist country? He already visited Vietnam and Brunei, and next week it's Japan. A lot of people are missing out that this isn't just about choosing between spam and ma-ling. This is about adobo willing to trade with different countries, and not just settle with spam. I read somewhere that countries in Africa were given bitter lessons by China. Also, Thailand and Laos were slapped with China's pan-asia railway project. For example, China designs the contract in the way that every single material, including rock and cement, must be imported from China. Not to mention the sea territory conflict between China and Philippines, in which China claimant of the sea was to the point that Filipino fishermen could not fish. Good luck Philippines. The media propagated that this action is so China-centric, and then, this happened... Click here to view the Tweet But who knows? Could be fake? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzz 1,238 Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 Are you suggesting that the Philippines should remain as the puppet of the US? And if the leader reaches out to Russia and China the country will turn into a communist country? He already visited Vietnam and Brunei, and next week it's Japan. A lot of people are missing out that this isn't just about choosing between spam and ma-ling. This is about adobo willing to trade with different countries, and not just settle with spam. The media propagated that this action is so China-centric, and then, this happened... Click here to view the Tweet But who knows? Could be fake? Wikileaks has become a desperate trash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coinbeans 2,324 Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 Wikileaks has become a desperate trash. We'll see... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valent1ne 92 Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 It's true the US is not altruistic but will act only if it is in her own self interest... but it is naïve to expect that China would behave differently. This re-alignment (from the US to China) represents a huge, huge gamble that President Duterte is making on behalf of the Philippines. For his own sake and for the sake of his country, I really hope things turn out positive for the Filipinos... I hardly doubt it. The U.S may be in a slow decline and China on the rise, but make no mistake the U.S is not an enemy you want. Look at Russia, it used to be a superpower with the soviet union, today they're poor but has a mighty military still. The U.S is six times richer. Regardless how protective China might be of the Philippines, if Duterte cozy up too much he will find himself surrounded by U.S bases and allies. Okinawa, Japan, South Korea, et cetera. The news did not land well within the Philippines, as they really shouldn't be alienating anyone any more than they already have. Besides, Should the U.S ever find a conflicting interest with the Philippines, it might just 'take' it if the alliance breaks because of this, and China will not under any circumstances risk itself to stand between the U.S and Duterte. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zenist 490 Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 I hardly doubt it. The U.S may be in a slow decline and China on the rise, but make no mistake the U.S is not an enemy you want. Look at Russia, it used to be a superpower with the soviet union, today they're poor but has a mighty military still. The U.S is six times richer. Regardless how protective China might be of the Philippines, if Duterte cozy up too much he will find himself surrounded by U.S bases and allies. Okinawa, Japan, South Korea, et cetera. The news did not land well within the Philippines, as they really shouldn't be alienating anyone any more than they already have. Besides, Should the U.S ever find a conflicting interest with the Philippines, it might just 'take' it if the alliance breaks because of this, and China will not under any circumstances risk itself to stand between the U.S and Duterte. Regardless of military, China's global strategy is not based upon military prowess, it is based upon economical ties. China, NATO, Russia, US are not playing the game in terms of nuclear anymore. All of those entities can destroy the rest of the Earth in a button if they wanted it. So the next thing to compete in a world struggle is on the economy. And China is playing the capitalism better than anyone on the list. The game of capitalism decides the winner based upon whoever have the most asset and who have the most purchasing power. China is world's NUMBER 1 consumer or in market term, China hold the world #1 demand. In this global economy, China really don't have to fire one single bullet to hurt other nations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gretchen 201 Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 China's economy is based on cheap labor Duterte, so whatever~ why are we so obsessed with China now though lmao. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zenist 490 Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 China's economy is based on cheap labor Duterte, so whatever~ why are we so obsessed with China now though lmao. China is world's number 1 consumer and producer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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