blue7kaoru 17,423 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 I saw this so i decided to share it since i thought it was pretty informative and interesting. There are 1236 idols and trainees who have signed on to a contract: - slightly over 40% signs onto "slave" contract 5 years or longer - by age over 20: 853 16-19: 231 13-15: 83 10-12: 23 below 12: 9 - average contract length is 3 years and 5 months - average cost per idol per month is 1,470,000â‚©(~$1,300USD ) Contract lengths from the big 6 companies: SM: 7 years YG: 5 years JYP: 7 years FNC: 7 years Cube: 7 years DSP: 5 years P.S : The first part are informations from the video but this second part abt the contracts lenght is mainly speculations but it seems kinda legit. cr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudy 3,588 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hizu 6,869 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 SM: 7 years It was 10 years for EXO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
violetvelvet 1,590 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 pretty interesting Why you get negs tho? lemme upvote you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dianun 2,094 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 SM: 7 years It was 10 years for EXO. Really not better..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue7kaoru 17,423 Posted October 14, 2016 Author Share Posted October 14, 2016 SM: 7 years It was 10 years for EXO. 7 years Korean activities plus 3 years for foreign ones. pretty interesting Why you get negs tho? lemme upvote you Seems like some people can't accept those facts ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swiftswitchsurf 12,276 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 I mean you can't exactly call the 5+ year contracts 'slave' contracts since it was agreed upon that 7 was the limit meant to be held by the courts. You can question ethical necessity of it, but that's something else entirely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
potato888 620 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 YG 5 years? Don't know about the new gen groups, but Bigbang's contract was 9 years, and 2NE1's contract was 7 years. Edit: BB's first contract was not 9 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
night vale. 8,071 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Technically any foreign promotions can add on 3 years either before even signing the contract or during the contract term (toward the end). So most of SM's groups are 10 years. this is why there's never any media about it other than Korean fan talk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneHellyu 397 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Interesting hmmm Sent from my iPhone using OneHallyu mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue7kaoru 17,423 Posted October 14, 2016 Author Share Posted October 14, 2016 I mean you can't exactly call the 5+ year contracts 'slave' contracts since it was agreed upon that 7 was the limit meant to be held by the courts. You can question ethical necessity of it, but that's something else entirely. Lol i know i'm not the one who did the translation :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaitingDB5K 3,650 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 SM: 7 years It was 10 years for EXO. It was 15 years (with MS) for DB5K... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remembering 7,109 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 YG 5 years? Don't know about the new gen groups, but Bigbang's contract was 9 years, and 2NE1's contract was 7 years. . It can't be nine years. Maybe for GD and Taeyang at one point because they started way earlier than the others. But definitely not the others as they renewed their contract in Aprill 2011 and again 2015. At most it was 7 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
potato888 620 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 It can't be nine years. Maybe for GD and Taeyang at one point because they started way earlier than the others. But definitely not the others as they renewed their contract in Aprill 2011 and again 2015. At most it was 7 years I just looked it up. You are right. BB's first contract renewal was in 2011. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chachaoi 150 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 DBSK initial contract was.... 13 years? D": Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syara 3,055 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Interesting how 5+ years is a slave contract and in Spain the best thing that can happen to you is getting a non-ending contract... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nareurong 6,951 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Interesting how 5+ years is a slave contract and in Spain the best thing that can happen to you is getting a non-ending contract... An idol group contract and a job in retail or so are hardly comparable ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusicL 1,007 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 5 years contract is pretty standard though. American idol winner get 5 year clad iron contracts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillya 821 Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 Well, even though now SM's contract length is a bit down to 10 years, the company can afford it. Trainees become trainees facing two options: get signed for this 10-year contract or leave the company (become a back dancer etc.) And with SM, a band is more or less guaranteed to last a while. So those young people still compete for those "slave" contracts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astray 1,271 Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 How is 5 years a "slave" contract? I'm pretty sure many western artists have contracts that long. Or at least the length is based on number of albums and that can take a long time to complete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yummy_Naozumi 444 Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 Dsp <3 <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eye 23 Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 7 years for jyp this family needs to treat their members better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EXORCIST 3,393 Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 with that payment ill sign as long as not above 10 years.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wasta 5,874 Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 The numbers themselves aren't shocking for contract lengths if you ignore the extra clauses like overseas promotion that can add extra years. But I think the issue becomes more the age of some of these idols that are signing away the prime years of their youth. 7 years for jyp this family needs to treat their members better I'm cackling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosie993 141 Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 Contract length to me isn't an issue (if it's clear and these idols sign and agree to it). It's more the high/impossible termination fees that are the problem. With JYP, even though it's 7 years - if you look at Sunmi, HyunA - the company will terminate the contract if someone doesn't want to be there anymore or their health is genuinely effected. There's room for that discussion. But companies like SM who are so strict in that the contract is binding (whether your fainting every 5 minutes or not) seem like miserable places to work for. If you look at vacation days - ShineE have never got a full week vacation in the 8 years they've been under SM. Only Jonghyun earned the 'right to discuss' vacation days 5 years into his career and that has yet to have any meaning. I think the 'right to discuss' anything should be made available straight from debut. I think communication is important between a company and it's employees. But there's more to a contract than it's length. It's all the other terms either written or expressly stated in creating it. But I don't think it's really any of our concern. At the end of the day - these idols (or their parents) voluntarily sign them. The basic rule with contract law - is that you should know what it is you are getting yourself into. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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