♥ Right Now, Tomorrow, Forever, 소녀시대 ♥ The Official Girls' Generation (SNSD) Thread

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We have to since we're not major SM stockholders -- and therefore we need to pray for the things we want, because we can't force the SM sajangnims to do our will.  

 

MORE SOSHI EDDICATION (although this is more coincidence than anything meaningful tbh):

wow. I wonder who someone noticed that did they just happen to have the music library on shuffle and have these two songs next to each other?

Okay I already got to listen to Lingua Franca.

 

People are you sure that was the full version?? (3.07mins) The end is just so sudden — or maybe not, I kinda expected it since the voice starting to faded out — but I tho I was listening to a song on some radio broadcast lol :|

 

 

Anyway save for that matter, the song is so catchy, I like it, kinda disturbed with — was that Tiffany bridge?? — but I got the feeling again soon enough.

 

Jessica voice is so smooth make me remember why I love her So much!!

 

I haven't listening to her OST yet tho, so I'll wait for it to come out on I-tunes

When you listen to it you'll die. Her voice is so pretty  I love it when she does sad ballads, she makes her voice sound so fragile

LMFAO actually me and Zadd don't have as much of a difference between us as you would think   

 

I had the same optimism & faith before the girls even debuted that they would annihilate in S.Korea...and they did

I had the same optimism & faith when the girls announced their intentions to debut in Japan...and they slayed unlike anyone else

I have the same optimism & faith that the girls will become commodities when they finally debut worldwide...you do the math! 

 

Then keep having faith on behalft of all SONEs.

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NO I love Bad Girl! The girls look awesome and I loveee the choreo. I can see how people might forget about it since it wasn't a title track and SM kind of randomly released it though :P

They made the girls sweat it out in a car park and then not promote the song 

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Can't decide which is better 

vs 

 

 

 
Please bury my dead body among lots and lots of SNSD albums.

 

Every single camera man wishing they had been hired for that particular job.

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Taeyeon in the background. 

 

 

 

also have scary sooyoung

 

But in the other one Nike is telling them to Just Do It.

 

I loved that bit in the episode, also great ending to the episode. 

So much tension I can't deal with it.

 

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Excluding TTS and TH endorsement with Sooyoung I wonder when Seohyun will get to shine on her own. She talented, nice and imo has a body to covert and I can't really think of anything, never mind something major, that she's done solo. I get it that in the past she's been the uptight one but I think she's been cracking out of her eggshell for a while. Once she's out of her shell its going to be time for her to really shine. Can't remember if I read it here but if you help a chick out of their shell they end up dying because they don't have the strength but if you make them do it themselves then they'll survive. I wonder what SM will have install for later on. 

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Do you prefer this or The Third Hospital? I haven't gotten around watching any of these two so far, so I was wondering with which one I should start. (ugh I'm guilty of not watching any SoShi dramas. Even though I watch many Kdramas for some reason I've never gotten around watching any drama with a SNSD member. And all of them see pretty interesting actually, especially Jessica's)

Jessica's acting was not great and even if you weren't watching the drama for her it's still bad. The lead female was so irritating I just ended up watching Jessica's cuts. 

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I wanna touch Tiffany's hair............................I'm not a creeper btw lol

JeTi hair 

 

Lol Jessi's shoes............ please never wear those again

 

But they're Chanel... 

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Lol. I know my girl loves her some Chanel but sometimes she should just say no. 

Which is making me think Chanel might be sponsoring their clothing. I mean why else would she 1. be wearing ugly shoes and 2. have a matching hand bag as Taeyeon.

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Don't they all have something Chanel, right? Lol, I hope she didn't pick those out herself...I mean, if she really needed Chanel shoes, don't they have better looking ones? At least, I hope they do.

Back when I spent time looking at RTW stuff I noticed that Chanel shoes are always ugly. She should at least go for Salvatore ferragamo, nice comfy Italian shoes or something. 

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http://instagram.com/p/auVkGCH_m7/ - â™¥_♥!! #Hogwarts #Harrypotter

nerd alert

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Things on my prayer list:

 

1. Sunny to stay away from every pair of scissors within a 5 mile radius for the next year.

2. Hyoyeon to dip her hair in a bucket of brown paint.

3. People in this thread to gain a sense of humor when it comes to Robert/Sooyoung's posts. Y'all wouldn't last a day if SNSD actually end up promoting in America because you'll have to deal with his no-holds-barred style of posting from people that don't like the group.

I actually like his bluntness even if I don't always agree with it. 

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Ehm...official SNSD thread...while you discuss about how sone should or shouldn't express his opinion, someone is still working hard under the rain despite shitty promotions, sales, and whatever. Just saying.

 

The girls, organisers and fans better not get injured and or catch a cold. Summer colds are the worst 

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The only place to roll back time is during a concert or a special stage.

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You are now speaking about the girls who seem to really like going to Disneyland and who also keep various toys with them all the time as if they still were small kids.

 

So I wouldn't assume that they want to only do mature concepts and don't want to do any playful songs like L&G. And there are many people here who claim that they like the song.

But I'm sure you can do playful songs without reverting back to preteens type concept.

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The artist who drew Victorian Taeyeon is now drawing Victorian Jessica 

 

#wip sneak peek... can you guess who it is? You can see more on my videos on vine: 1bite2xshy - but I'll also be posting the progress shots here too...

#victorian #portrait #angel #snsd #girlsgeneration #watercolor #pastels #charcoal on watercolor paper

source: http://instagram.com/p/axIUiDMi_y/

Loved the Taeyeon, can't wait for this version. It seriously looks like those classic b/w photos from long ago.

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Lately I always loved Sunny Airport.

She looks so badass and all..

 

Same. I love the way she been wearing those caps with natural attitude.

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NO.

MOTHER OF YULSIC.

WAY.

 

 

 

I was thinking of her, too, cuz you know --  a decent crass wit is hard to come by these days.

I suppose only sacrifices of Taeny or Yulsic of some kind will do to lure her out again : / thanks for the info, tho

 

 

 

 

wttthhhhhhh

 

that is NO excuse

where is your updates, lenalee is super patient in a lot of ways but mang, i have sentimental issues to address here with the info desk lady 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

in all honesty, though, congratulations \o/ !!! i know you were working your ass off so I hope it feels good to be over, ya?

 

 

 

SO YOU HAVE NO EXCUSES TO EXCLUDE YOUR SIGNIFICANT QUARTERs, hmmm

Maybe she's waiting for the right combination of people to post and bounce off from them being here.

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#Reflection2012/13 #tho

Reflection, Animal, boomerang and the occasional line from Flower Power and T.O.P could definitely have other meanings 

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Well you better be prepared for when they slay...because if all your interested in is seeing them confined to one area of the music market & would rather see them as 3 members having more exposure than all 9 just to avoid an english release which is what all the girls dream of...then i think your in the wrong thread just saying. 

The only reservation I have is the promoting aspect of thing when they do interviews. For people not familiar with them its probably going to get real obvious if only 2-4 of them do the talking, we're lucky that most of them are the ones people think have clones in the group.

 

Side note I hope the Singapore air doesn't kill them or affect their singing.

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I was putting together some data on SNSD’s sales so far in 2013 since we passed the half-year mark a while ago, but I realised that some fans might not understand the true meaning of the data in terms of what it really means for SNSD. So I’ve ended up with a chunk of text about SNSD’s 2013 performance thus far, how it compares to their previous years, as well as some background info on how the Korean entertainment industry works. This might be a boring read for some of you…sorry!

 

As always, SNSD‘s performance for the first half of the year has been nothing short of impressive, but really that’s what you’d expect of SNSD.

Firstly, let’s talk about what makes SNSD the formidable group that they are, or as netizens like to put it; “the wall others can’t climb overâ€.

The table below shows the 15 top male artists and 15 top female artists so far in 2013 according to physical album sales. As you can see, the artists selling the most physical albums are idols; specifically male idol groups. In the predominantly digital South Korean music industry, people don’t really buy albums unless they are a big fan of the artist (collecting expensive albums is really just not economical). Basically to sell a lot of albums, you need a lot of fans. This is why idol groups dominate physical sales – because they are marketed specifically to create loyal fanbases that will buy their albums.

2013 Top 15 Male & Female Groups (Domestic, Physical) as of May 31, 2013.

Male Artists Female Artists 1. SHINee: 328.7 1. SNSD: 318.7 2. Kim Jaejoong: 206.7 2. T-ara N4: 26 3. Cho Yong Pil: 197.3 3. Lee Hi: 17.3 4. Infinite: 197.2 4. 4Minute: 14.6 5. CN Blue: 126.1 5. Davichi: 14.5 6. 2PM: 110.2 6. Lee Hyori: 12.6 7. B.A.P: 108.7 7. Sistar19: 12.6 8. Teen Top: 105.4 8. Girl’s Day: 11.6 9. B1A4: 98.7 9. HELLOVENUS: 9.5 10. Infinite H: 91 10. Younha: 8.6 11. Shinhwa: 72.6 11. Baek Ji Young: 8.7 12. VIXX: 56.8 12. Secret: 8.4 13. SUJU-M: 51.3 13. Rainbow: 7.7 14. BIGBANG: 45.4 14. Nine Muses; 7.7 15. G-Dragon: 37.5 15. Na Yoon Sun: 7

*1 = 1000 units.
**Figures are rounded to the nearest hundred.

Now look below at the top 30 digital aggregates â€“ where the physical sales indicate ‘fandom size’, digital salesare more indicators of how popular the actual song is with the general public, and therefore how well known the artist is with the public. For instance, look at the relatively new groups VIXX and B1A4; although they did well in physical sales, they’re not on the digital  list. This shows that they have sizeable support from idol-fans, but outside of those fandoms, the general public has little to no idea who they are. On the flipside, Huh Gak was unable to sell a lot physically, but he did well digitally; if you pulled a random Korean off the street they’re much more likely to be able to name a Huh Gak song than a VIXX or B1A4 song. Get it?

By the way, definite shoutouts have to go to Taeyeon who is a digital beast all on her lonesome. Future solo career secured, much?

30 Highest Digital Points, as of June 12, 2013

217,819,448 Gentleman Psy 199,716,672 Shower of Tears BaeChiGi ft. Ailee 199,213,090 Gone Not Around Any Longer Sistar19 188,892,493 Tears LeeSsang (ft. Yoojin of The Seeya) 184,370,503 Monodrama Huh Gak (ft. Yoo Seung Woo) 171,038,872 Spring, Spring, Spring Roy Kim 170,204,705 Turtle Davichi 153,047,562 I Got A Boy SNSD 148,394,095 Crescendo Akdong Musician 145,662,708 Love Blossom K.Will 144,993,362 What’s Your Name 4Minute 140,785,836 Be Warmed Davichi 136,878,607 Winter Love The One 133,873,601 I’m Sorry CNBLUE 131,199,528 Snow Flower Gummy 129,980,050 Cherry Blossom Ending Busker Busker 128,124,312 Rose Lee Hi 127,234,945 Bounce Cho Yong Pil 125,464,017 Tonight Lyn 118,375,751 I Love You Akdong Musician 117,362,380 Hello, Its me 4Men 117,314,938 Gangbuk Fancy Guy Jung Hyung Don 111,684,244 And One Taeyeon 111,525,106 Expect Girl’s Day 110,790,364 How Are You Geeks 107,745,858 1440 Huh Gak 107,707,329 Foreigner Confession Akdong Musician 107,260,865 I Hate It Baek Ji Young 106,299,382 Dream Girl SHINee 103,510,483 One Spring Day 2AM

*these figures do not represent downloads, but Digital Aggregates: a point system representing revenue brought in by all digital sources.

So where does SNSD come into this equation? They are one of the only artists that have the ability to top both digital and physical sales lists. SNSD is the only girl group to be in posession of both a Digital Daesang and a Disk Daesang (these are like Korean grammys). This means that where many girl-groups get public attention but are unable to attract large amounts of dedicated fans like boy-groups do, SNSD has managed to create a fandom the rivals the biggest boy-group fandoms. And where many idol groups are able to attract fans but the general public doesn’t care about them, SNSD has managed to become a household name. The only other idol group that can boast that kind of fan-attention as well as public-attention is Big Bang, which is why SNSD and Big Bang are often considered the top two groups in Korea right now, in their own ‘top-tier’. SoShiBang wuh wuhhhh.

Now, how have SNSD done so far this year? As you can see, physically they are selling extremely well – which is to be expected of a group with such a large fandom (no matter the song, fans are always gonna buy the album). Digitally though, I’m going to risk some hate and say that they could have done better. I’m not saying “I Got a Boy†flopped – it is quite impossible for an SNSD song to ‘flop’ at this point (I mean it’s still gotten over 100 million points), but for whatever reasons that I’m not going to comment on, “I Got a Boy†has had a smaller digital impact and less love from the public than SNSD’s previous releases. To put things in perspective, IGAB sold about 300,000digital albums in it’s first week of release. In 2011, “The Boys†hit about 750,000 in it’s first week. Last year, even sub-unit TaeTiSeo had a first week run of about 600,000 with “Twinkle“.

Conclusively, for all it’s hype, although IGAB in no way did badly, you could say it did badly for an SNSD song. If it had been any other group but SNSD it probably wouldn’t have done as well as it did.

However, if you look GAON‘s (it’s like a korean BillBoard) 2010-2012 graph of SNSD’s charting history (let’s excludeMr.Taxi because that was an obvious lazy mis-step on SM’s part), SNSD generally have an up-down-up-down pattern with their releases. “Twinkle†finished 2012 as the 11th highest ranking album of the year. IGAB is most likely not going to going to make it into 2013′s top 10, but I guess we can have high hopes for whatever SNSD’s second korean release is later in the year or early next (hopefully…). Tiffany has dropped hints on upcoming SNSD albums and a TaeTiSeo comeback, so that should be taken into account too (then again maybe mushroom is just lost).

Meanwhile, away from the Asian mainland we have Shoujo Jidai chillin’ over in Japan. The first half of 2013 has been a real money-spinner for SJJD. If you remember, SNSD’s 1st Japan Arena Tour generated over 20 billion won (~19.mil USD) in it’s 14 shows. 2013′s Girls&Peace Tour finished up at 20 shows, so logically you’d expect an even higher revenue.

Girls&Peace was released in 2012, but it was released pretty late in the year so I’ll include it here just so that you can get a gist of where Shoujo Jidai stands in Japan right now.

Oricon Chart Peak Debut sales Sales total Chart run Daily Albums Chart 2 46,031 203,003+ 27 weeks Weekly Albums Chart 3 116,963 Monthly Albums Chart 6 Yearly Albums Chart 41 141,259

Above are the deets on how Girls&Peace faired in 2012, (they’ve since obtained a RIAJ Platinum Certification, meaning they’ve shipped over 250,000 copies).

Now, a lot of the hype around ‘hallyu’ in Japan has died down somewhat if you compare the insane media coverage SNSD got during their Japanese debut in 2010 to media coverage now. Plus relations between Koreans and Japanese have been more strained in the last year or so. SM/Universal Music Japan can no longer use use the novelty of hallyu to get attention with SNSD, so their focus has shifted to maintaining the Japanese fanbase rather than gaining new fans.

Top 15 K-pop Artists on 2012's Oricon

1 SNSD 962,575 2 Kara 952,941 3 TVXQ 631,388 4 Super Junior 471,581 5 Big Bang 439,181 6 2PM 394,786 7 Kim HyunJoong 329,706 8 T-ara 304,250 9 SHINee 271,524 10 CNBlue 236,508 11 FT Island 216,213 12 Infinite 135,160 13 U-Kiss 130,050 14 B1A4 127,950 15 Jang GeunSuk 126,959

Above is a list of the top K-pop acts in Japan for the year 2012. As you see, SNSD tops it with Kara right on their heels (Kara and SNSD are pretty much of equal standing in Japan). Don’t confuse this as SNSD being a top group in Japan though; they have a strong standing there but they’d be considered an middle-second-tier group if anything, as there’s still no way though could beat representative Japan groups like AKB48 or Arashi.

2011 was a pretty fantastic year for them; they finished the year as the No.5 Best Selling Artist with the No.5 Best Selling Album of the year with Girls Generation, The First Japan Album.  2012 was not quite so fruitful – Girls&Peacefinished the year at No.42.
Girls’ Generation was in fact, so much more succesful that it sold well throughout 2011 and 2012, and actually beat Girls&Peace on the 2012 yearly ranking at No.25. If you simply look at the difference in performance between the two albums, one might think that SNSD simply fell out of relevance in Japan. However, the continued popularity of Girls’ Generation, The First Japan Album shows that’s not true. There’s a lot of possible reasons as to why this is the case, but Girls&Peace just wasn’t as popular, although that doesn’t mean SNSD have lost popularity.

In the second half of 2013, SME is likely to be heavily focused on sorta-rookies EXO, and there is also a rumouredf(x) comeback around the bend. I have no idea where any future SNSD promotions will fit into this equation (although they are likely to happen later this year), but I do hope SM lets Shoujo Jidai do some really strong promotions in Japan as well. They sitting pretty comfortably at the top of K-pop, but they’re not yet a top-tier group in J-pop, so there’s still rungs to be climbed.

Onto the next section, let’s talk CFs.

Endorsements are pretty much the best way to measure how much the public loves a celebrity/how good a celebrity’s image is. Obviously, companies are going to want models with positive images that are well known to represent them, and that bill fits SNSD like a glove. SNSD have been the most sought after models every year since their 2009 popularity explosion. Their asking price is high, but they can sell anything.

Celebrities with the most commercials, 2009-2012

2009 2010 2011 2012 Lee Min Ho (19) Lee Seung Gi (30) SNSD (36) SNSD (31) SNSD (16) Kim Yuna (28) Lee Seung Gi (32) Kim Soo Hyun (25) Kim Yuna (14) SNSD (25) Won Bin (29) Kim Tae Hee (25) Kim Bum (13) Rain (21) Hyun Bin (28) Yoona (23) Kim Tae Hee (12) Shin Min Ah (20) IU (20) Kim Yuna (21) Lee Seung Gi (12) Lee Na Young (20) Lee Na Young (18) Kim Jun Hyun (21) Rain (11) 2PM (19) Shin Min Ah (17) Big Bang (19) Yoo Seung Ho (11) Kim Hye Soo (17) Kim Tae Hee (17) PSY (19) Lee Hyo Ri (11) Han Ye Seul (15) Big Bang/2NE1 (17) Seohyun (18)

Above is ze list showing the most popular CF models in Korea every year since 2009. This is a pretty good indication of their good reputation, as well as how much $$ they gots in their pockets.

SNSD’s CF tally for 2013 so far sits at:
SNSD: ~5*
Yoona: 21**
Taeyeon: 1
Yuri: 6
Seohyun: 13**
Tiffany: 1

*I might have missed some but it’s around the 5-10 mark.
**I should point out that YoonHyun both endorse SK Telecom, who have been completely spamming CFs.

So it hasn’t been a massive half-year CF wise for SNSD, but in terms of CFs and endorsements the SNSD members have definitely been working independantly a lot more this year. Eg; Sooyoung for Double-M, Jessica for Banila Co./Stonehenge, Hyoyeon for TopShop, etc. The member that’s been the least active so far this year with endorsements/CFs is has been Sunny I believe….Get off your arse Soonkyu.

Forbes Korea Power Celebrities 2013

*(Sales: Annual salary, donations, income from albums, broadcast & advertisement appearance fees. Media: influence, magazine appearances, headlines, internet searches. Broadcast: Fame, reputation, show appearances, CFs. Professionalism: Album & digital sales, chart performance.)

Above is the top 15 celebrities of 2013 according to Forbes Korea. The first collumn shows their 2013 rank while the second shows their 2012 rank. SNSD have topped this list in both 2011 and 2012, and are still killing it even thoughPsy booted them off no.1 with “Gangnam Styleâ€.

SO IN CONCLUSION.
SNSD in 2013 have been sitting snug and comfy in their ‘top celebrity’ status. Although the performance of their recent releases have been somewhat lacklustre for SNSD’s standards, it’s pretty obvious that their reputation and influence has taken no knocks and they definitely aren’t planning on vacating the top spot anytime soon.
What to expect? SNSD are definitely going to rake in hefty loot of CFs before the year ends, and their second korean release for the year, if there is one, is going to be a definite daebak.

If you stuck with the article to this point, hope it was informative!

cr; kpopsales.blogspot, GAONchart, Oricon, netizenbuzz, telzone, soshified, AsianFanatics

 

 

 

 

Thanks for that I actually read that.

Im sure while they have been tackling SK & JP with IGAB & L&G that the girls who aren't as adept at the english language have been working on it...from what i heard of their concert, their singing in english is so much more improved so hopefully it means their conversational grasp of the language might of improved  !!!

The humidity of Singapore at this time of year must be absolutely agonising for their vocals & their hair lol but im sure they will be fine, they are prepared for all kinds of climates considering the fact they want to dominate the world 

Right now there is a lot of haze from fires in Indonesia. The worst in 16 years or something.

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For a moment I was excited and then I started reading alba 

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Never thought that still would ever become a macro. 

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Did not expect Weibo, I'm mean who did she get to help her navigate that site? 

 

^ I think it's more like twitter. 

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Jessica looks pretty pissed that Taeyeon reclined her chair in front of her in that van picture

She's all like "get that chair out of my face"

Meanwhile Yoona has a creepy looking smile while looking at Jessica. 

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Multiple updates a day on her Weibo really took me by surprise. I mean she only updated here UFO once in a blue moon.