♥ Right Now, Tomorrow, Forever, 소녀시대 ♥ The Official Girls' Generation (SNSD) Thread

[Carlos]

at first, i still think that no way SM to delay the comeback, because with sones "pride", SM can forced sone to bulk buy in first and second week in order to compete with 2ne1. so i dont understand why they should head to head with 2ne1? are SM just want to troll YG and completely crush 2ne1??.

i thinks, SM strategy to hiding the comeback date is more to building the hype, sone who dying with comeback will do anything to finding the comeback news, which make anticipation more greater, more spazzing in internet, checking internet (and leaving message) everydays make anyone who doesnt care with SNSD comeback also got the impact. and if the time ready..BAM...!!!!!

imagine when suddenly the MV and album came out of nowhere??? sone who desperate will give bigger reaction if they got surprise (than if comeback date already announced). and i'm sure it would be chaos...!!!!!

damn..!!! SM is so smart to play with fans hearts, while fans call them stupid for wasting time in delaying comeback, actually they just make us desperate enough, make us begging about comeback (look how much comment from K-netz who begging with soshi comeback!!), and gives us heart attack (with surprise MV), and in the end sones will bulk buy because we want to completely crush 2ne1.

in the end SM wins, because at current situation, sones will eat anything with soshi comeback, SM got money money money, and SM get fame because soshi crushing 2ne1 and trolling YG

 

EDIT: upps.. sorry for double posting

Edited February 19, 2014 by Carlos

[Carlos]

^^^

I think its not about physical sales. More about how YG will somehow media playing if 2ne1 able to beat soshi on real time chart since they just release their album and deliberately forgetting the fact that they're releasing it days/week after SNSD release MR.MR digitally.

Ps : MR.MR is a MINI, CRUSHED is 2NE1 2nd(?) full album after such a long time, So, maybe the physical sales wont have any big difference later.

i dont know SM true intention, but SM will got everything. crush YG/2ne1, establish them self as the number one, attention/hype from desperate sone, and in the end, all of them will boost sales and money money money.

[Carlos]

if it hard for u to backtrack, u can always go to soshified, sonems.net, and other news sites., because every news have their own thread so u dont need to backtrack every single page.

 

the downside of forum is they dont have index, so u must read trough all the place to search what kind of information that u need. however forum is like "one stop entertainment" where u can get news, video, picture, and discussion in one go, so people doesn't have to go find info from other place

 

if i dont lurk this thread for a week, and was about 20-50 pages behind, i rather go to the news site to find out what info that i've been left, after that just go to the last page of this forum. it help for savingtime from looooonnnggg backtrack

 

hope this help.

[Carlos]

SM is trolling us with their mind game. Remember when taeyeon say on interview that soshi concept is "mistery and plot twist". Mistery because no information about the exact date for comeback, plot twist there are something that we dont expect to happen but actually happen. From head to head until suddenly tvxq comeback.

Im dying to know what is the plot twist? Currenty SM mind games succesfully make sone so desperate, they know the right time to execute their plot twist.

yep, sone are desperate right now. throwing anger at SM is like daily basis in this thread, so the hype is still not dies down. anticipation will rise and multiple again when SM will upload teaser which is another cut from the MV.

 

sones right now: "i dont care about comeback", "im tired of this shit", "sighh.. what a waste of hype", "im not excited anymore", ""fuck u SM"

 

when MV come: WHDIGOENCH:8(&(73£jekgmwoxhuDIFHDNWU{€!,^|*<¥<>]*JCHRHWMXJCJDOWMCMWOAJFHCNAKEHFNC,S,F

 

trust me

[Carlos]

im 99% sure that SM will give surprise MV or at least just short notice in this circumstance, if this not.. it just wasting the momentum (from mysterious and plot twist concept) or SM afraid of the hype dies down.

 

IGAB comeback, SM give sone headache by "WTF is this kind of song??"

Mr. Mr. comeback SM give sone headache by "WTF is the comeback date??"

[Carlos]

just like i say before.. people will go gaga after the song out...!!!!

 

now it impossible to stop thirsty sone at this point

 

i still sure that SM purposely let leak the album (eventought insider say its SM mistake, heckk.. at this point i'm sure insider will also get along with SM media play, if not they will explain why the data lost at the first place). SM say that the song will come out at 17th or 24th before, but why it leak at 23th? if SM forget to tell I-TUnes, should it out at exact date? not at random date.

 

just glimpe of leak, and anybody in chaos.. is not the first time SM got leak, but the effect just the opposite *coughexocoughwolf* (and also like japan song), after all SM doesn't really care about digital, sone who spread the audio also will not purchase legally anyone even if it not leaked, same with people who will not buy song legally also will not buy the song at the first place, they will download it illegally after the song release.

 

however because it is leak on I-Tunes USA, people who doesnt know will more curious about the song. and Mr. Mr is solid album, sone who doesn't want to buy the album because dissatisfied with recent release maybe will change their mind.

 

leaked or not K-nez will still buy it legally, and SNSD album will slay the chart as usual. trust me...!!!

[Carlos]

the boys - boring, tempo to slow, basic song.

 

IGAB with fast pace, and experimental - WTF is this song, garbage, not catchy, disjointed, no powerfull high not, hate rapping part

 

 

Mr. Mr with basic structure, slay vocal, no rapping - boring and basic song.

 

and the circle continues, u can please anybody. lets the digital chart, album sold, and awards prove them wrong, like how people praising IGAB after getting good review from rolling stone and youtube awards.

[Carlos]

They shouldn't have let Tiffany do that high note..

But oh my Jesus hyoyeon's singing improved so much

please don't start..

[Carlos]

Just saying. It sounded a bit off. I'm sure taeyeon or Jessica could have done it better

yeah.. why not just make it taeyeon solo? taeyeon is the best singer in snsd right? so she will do all the part's best..!

 

everybody have their own part, voice colour, singing technique, and composer give the line which is suite the girls best. and everyone have chance to shine, which is tiffany now.

 

not all people like taeyeon and sica voice colour, and some of their high not sounded a bit off, but it doesn't mean that part should give to somebody else.

 

by your logic, no one in dance line deserve a single line, because absolutely it sounded a bit of compare to vocal line.

[Carlos]

u all just keep faith with the girls, enough with negativity and insecurity. this is SNSD we talking about who always do well in the last 5 promotion.

 

just give the album more credit, and everyone will spreading how good this album, lot of non fans will do as they can to make Mr Mr album sound bad, so if a lot of sone also complain about the song just make other refuse to listen, or try to liked it.

 

don't be scared about the chart, i'm sure longevity is the key, no need to rush with comeback stage or MV, there a lot people still spazzing on the album, and let SM give time to TVXQ to get spotlight even it just for one week..

 

 

 

btw where cassie in OH?? i expected there are some battle between TVXQ and 2ne1

[Carlos]

because lot of sone in here doesn't want to give SM credit, they dont want to acknowledge any contribution from SM to the girls success.   i dunno why SM hate bandwagon is to big even from the fans form SM artist itself?? 

 

like now, who would thought that cheap ass promotion tactic by SM can make sone heart explode now??? who tought despite many messy mistake been made they can make us surprise again and again?? and the girls slay as usual (even before SM/SNSD pulling out their biggest weapon)  ?? but some people in here felling better to dish, bash, and trowing shade rather than to give apreciation what the effort have been done and enjoy spazzing.   -_-

 

lot people in here want to enjoy spazzing to the fullest and create more hype in this forum about this comeback, but sadly too much drama for nothing (like trowing shade, complain, etc to the company and the members just hurt the buzz..

 

no wonder that lenalee stop posting in here. some people can stand to see to much negativity while what they want is to enjoy the spazzing, so i understand that people like them rather  to avoid this thread than involved in drama.

because is the easiest way is to using SM as scapegoat if anything doesn't go as their wish, some people can't accept defeat (can't accept everthing except perfection, so they will find someone to blame. However its hard for fans to blame their bias, so they will blame SM as the one who responsible for manage SNSD. however like u say.. why focus on blaming other party if we can use it to support the girls and bringing on positive aura in the fandom

 

some people think that their logic/wish = the right way to success, so if success is obtain by another (random) strategy they think it just "pure luck".

 

and its hard for some people to acknowledge that SM has better strategy than them even thought SM has several time proving that they execute the right strategies, because if they acknowledge defeat (That SM more smart than them) they can't use SM as scapegoat anymore.

[Carlos]

keep spazzing

 

keep supporting

 

keep waiting

 

keep confident

 

 

the girls will answer our hope..!

[Carlos]

i love this comeback..!!! the vocal if top notch..!!!

 

don't bother with constant whining about choreo, in music voice come first sadly.. and i'm satisfied because my babies can showcase their vocal and show that they are worth to be called as a "singer".

 

groups full with talented vocal will always worth listen no matter how BAD the song, ever heard that "true singer will touch every song into a gold" this is what i felt about soshi, no matter how people say the song is bad, or the choreo suck, it still worth listening because "the girls rock it". do you think other group can execute SNSD song? imagine after school sing mr. mr. or BEG dance to IGAB? mess..

 

about line, screen times, etc. doesn't bother to complain about it. im sure hardwork will always paid of. and what my bias get now is because they working hard for it. tiffany and sooyong get more line because they improve a lot in singing, should i complain? no i'm happy because they deserve it. hyo shinee in last 2 comeback, should i complain? no she deserve it.

 

however, someone have more lines and screen time, so someone also have to get less line and screen time. However this will make them to step up their game and continue to improve. i hope jessica and taeyeon to improve their singging so their line not be steal by tiffany and sooyoung, i hope yoona and yuri to be more confident so her screen time not be stolen by hyoyeon, etc.

 

SNSD itself it competition, they all fighting for their spot for lines and screen times. i can only wish they can continue to improve and proving themself, . if 9 girls continue to improve, SNSD will always untouchable from other GG.

 

i don't want to be SELFISH fans who want my bias get everything, complaining someone get more spotlight just mean i don't aknowledge their hardwork, and lead the fandoms into battlefield. and don't forget that SNSD is belong to the public, not only us, so let the the girls show what the best from them to please public.

[Carlos]

seeing the girls cry when winning #1 really break my heart, this promotion mean too much for them.

 

antis and some sones should give them break from constant hate and criticism,

 

they are still young and carried too much pressure from fans and public. when they need support because the misfortune (leaked, data lost, re-filming), fans rather playing the blaming game instead giving courage. when they work hard to give what fans want, fans ask more (or ask the opposite).

 

some sone should loosen up their "perfectionist standard" and give less complain, why you guys end up still being a fans if u always complain in every single days? better find other fav that meet up your standard and preference.

 

glad to see lot of K-sones and I-sones still work hard to support the girls

Edited March 9, 2014 by Carlos

[Carlos]

tears = fake, crybaby

 

not cry = arrogant, meaningless, too much take for granted, they know they don't deserve to win

 

said idiot people with idiotic logic

[Carlos]

I though people didn't liked Love & Girls...

yeah.. i remember backlash about that. fans think that SNSD given very basic dance which elementary kid can do it?

 

lot of fans shout "whoever create the choreography needs to be fired", maybe that why SM not hiring her anymore or rino reluctant to work with SNSD again.

 

u know one main point of SNSD dance is because is easy despite its very eyes catching, however these days fans expected more complicated choreography (to showcase the girls dance ability) and reluctant to see the easy choreo (that audience can dance along).

Edited March 21, 2014 by Carlos

[Carlos]

If that's the case SM is stupid,you sack Rino for 1 bad choreography in the eyes of fans,well if that's the case...Jillian Meyers wont be returning lol

well.. SM just doing a favour for fans.

 

SM not sack rino because she not SM employee for the first place, i bet SM will not using Rino for time being and using her later on. there are lot other talented choreographer that SM can choose btw.

 

same will be case of jilian meyers, if the negative response is too big than the positive one, I'm sure SM will not hired him for some period.

 

well this is K-POP with just one mistake, fans will judge u as incompetent/stupid one and forget the past masterpiece. Same with what happen with kenzie and yoo young jin.

[Carlos]

this week is last promotion, im okay about it. girls need rest to prepare their japan tour. morever, too many performance to the same song can get less exiting, so i don't understand why people expect them to promote more than 1 month and perform same song 13362374281 times. props to SM to give different outfit in every performance, and also mention about the stylist, its gold because girls dress like a CEO/boss, with make up/hairstyle like a princess.

 

while other people doesn't like mini album than full album, i personally like it because is mean that there are another comeback in these years. look how the last 2 full album we dont get any other comeback but there are always another comeback when snsd make mini album.

 

can't wait for japan tour, im sure snsd will sing all song from 3rd album, prepare to see gossip girls, flyer, lips, karma butterfly, and motorcyle live.

 

and prior from last tour reactions, im sure that this tour will be another solo stage, and likely it will be same with solo stage in merchant fantasy.

[Carlos]

SM need to give snsd english album, so there is a better chance that snsd can promote in USA or at least making concert in there, so tiffany can fulfil het dream.

 

i dont care if its will flop, i just want snsd have song language that i understand, and with MV english vers, i can see the MV in my local television (not in fucking youtube) and i can show soshi to my friend who ignorant about music beside english.

[Carlos]

i don't get it, why people insist that taeny got special treatment by SM, that why they got sub-unit?? and SM is unfair too other member because doesn't give them any sub unit beside TTS? (are people forget about jetihyun who release 2 single with MV??)

 

TTS created because those 3 who still has bigger passion and just want to focus in music, while other 6 rather to take other individual job beside music such as drama, MC, photo shoot etc.

 

i remember tiffany say that they begging to SM several time to make TTS sub-unit happen, and tiifany and seohyun work hard on their vocal to prove their seriousness and worth of this project (u can compare how much those 2 improve their vocal since debut). And i also remember how taeyeon several times say that they are jobless and need more activities, but she not choose any activity such as drama of variety like other members. i think she purposely rejected any offer in order to show SM that she just want to sing, nothing else. Taeyeon is completely loss from public until she being MC in music core (this is also because she replaced yuri who busy with her acting career.

 

i thinks other 6 can make another sub-unit if they ask SM, and im sure SM will allow another sub unit if other member work hard to proving their seriousness.in sub-unit.., sadly their passion is on another field. the problem is not only that if SM want another sub-unit or not, but also if other girls want to participate or not?? or they just want to spend their activity when SNSD on hiatus in other field? just how in several interview that yoona prefer acting than singing, and how sooyoung and yuri want to go acting so badly. remember that being actress have more public exposure and income compare to being idol, so i dont blame if other girls prefer play in drama than singing.

 

sorry for my little rant, i'm tired with all wank thread about people against TTS, how they claim that TTS happen because SM bias to taeny and dismissed how those 3 are work hard to make this sub-unit happen and success. 

 

tired of seeing those hypocrite people, when the girls landing in TOP drama, big CF, high rating show, they say "way to go" "hell yeah" "congrats" "she deserve it" "xxx acting skilll is improve" etc, but when there are new about TTS, they react like "fucking SM bias to taeny" "we tired of TTS" "SM promote taeny too much" when those 3 just want to pursue their passion.

 

if u guys (people who againt TTS) can appreciated how other girls can secure their job in drama, MC, variety, or whatever it is.. why can u guys appreciated TTS blood and tears regarding on sub-unit.

need to quote this guys words just to remind people in here

[Carlos]

Can i ask something? How do you know three of them want a sub unit and asked for it?

they say in several interview when TTS promoting, they talk in happy together, lee-sora, hello, etc (but i think happy together is the complete one). tiffany say that they begging to SM several times until SM accepted the sub-unit. especially tiffany and sehyoun workhard (in vocal) just to proving SM that they worth to make sub unit, and promises that they will work hard to make TTS success

[Carlos]

2012

Taeyeon - MC Music Core, OST and TTS.

Jessica - Wild Romance and OST.

Sunny - Invincible Youth 2 and OST.

Tiffany - MC Music Core, OST and TTS.

Hyoyeon - DWTS and Invincible Youth 2.

Yuri - Fashion King

Sooyoung - TvN Drama

Yoona - Love Rain

Seohyun - MC Music Core, OST & TTS

9 of them of course has a CF as a group (individual more to Yoona, Seohyun, Jessica & Yuri in 2012) and individual photoshoot except maybe Sunny & Hyoyeon.

TTS has more activities in 2012 compare to other members.

just adding, yuri also in dwts. sunny mc in music island and musical. sooyoung MC. jessica mc in birth of family (couple episode) also musical in late 2012.

[Carlos]

Actually Hyoyeon get a big job in 2012, not much but long term project.

 

2 Variety Show : Invincible Youth 2 for 1 year and Dancing with the stars for 3 months.

and yet people complain for TTS who promote only for one month

 

 

seriously, if we follow our bias closely you will see that actually that they are promote more than we though is just that maybe we skip to watch some episode/program where our bias is appear.

 

people love to follow that something that they dislike, so it seem that other people have more activity than our bias, but in fact maybe actually ourself is the one who neglected our bias when they are appear.

Edited March 29, 2014 by Carlos

[Carlos]

I love to see other sub-unit but Its hard to expect another sub-unit. Not just because SM will allow it or not, but more like if the member WANT FOCUS TO THE PROJECT, and seriously work on it. Because its hard and tiring to promote both in music show and being actress (that why several time we can't see yoona perform with snsd because busy with acting)

 

However we don't know what the girls trully want?? In several occasion some of the girls stated that they prefer to branch out in drama or anything beside music show. can't blame the girls for wanting to be actress because it will bring more exposure and money compare to make sub-unit. And im sure that SM also will prefer yoona, yuri, and sooyoung to star in drama rather than sub-unit if snsd in hiatus. In some interview yoona (and sooyoung if i not mistake) even honestly say that she prefer to act on drama than singing

 

So rather than i doubt SM will allow another sub-unit, im more doubt that the other member will focus to create sub-unit, and reject any musical or drama offer (just like when taeyeon say that she reject photoshoot and drama offer in the past because she want to focus just in music). i can only see the passion/motivation in music/sub-unit in hyoyeon, but don't see that motivation in other 5 girls.

Edited March 30, 2014 by Carlos

[Carlos]

 

  

 

  

 

  

Credit: wishesofnine @tumblr

 

SM!!! Where is MrMr dance practice video??? 

 

maybe because today is sunday, SM IT manager still in holiday, drink a cup of coffee while reading newspaper in starbuck with his son. LOL