♥ Right Now, Tomorrow, Forever, 소녀시대 ♥ The Official Girls' Generation (SNSD) Thread

[Carlos]

best moment: its hard to choose

 

my favourite this year are taengstagram, dating cyrano, special comeback IGAB show, and don't forget youtube awards.

 

Edit: forgot about flyers, and time machine live.

Edited December 19, 2013 by Carlos

[Carlos]

im here to enjoy the awesomeness of soshi concert, spazzing, and preparing my heart for the comeback. Not to hear whining about fucking unfairness, lines, who need solo stage, who have to much solo stage, and bla.. bla.. bla..

 

and i don't wanna hear about sone wanting some of the members to leave snsd. like other sone say, sone love the girls equally, so how come you wish some of the member to leave the group? there no guarantee that they will getting more success and love as much as they got in snsd if they leave the group?

[Carlos]

If SM gives me any of those explanations as an official reason as to why one of SNSD's members didnt get a solo I will completely shut up.

But dont just throw a concert and leave her out and expect us fans not to wonder why she dindt get her time to shine.

 

and OH! you're bothered because I gave my opinion on a forum? in the SNSD official thread on a SNSD subjetc no less?? boo hoo for you, but this IS the place I can come and give my opinion on anything SNSD, if you dont like this sort of opinion, you can either ignore it, block me or whatever 

 

And you complaining about respect??

pfffff.... 

btw, dont really feel like discussing this with you since we both know how you feel about this issue so bye bye. 

 

 

I really wanted to put this in spoiler but for some reason It dindt work, so sorry to everyone else for spoiling the fun, have some perfect Sunny instead :

 

 

just wait up for couple of mont you will get the answer. just like when people going rage to SM because there are no solo stage in 2nd japan tour, and turn out the members admitted that is hyoyeon idea to not doing solo stage.

 

so because there still no confirmation, we cant blame anyone. but from the past experience, hyoyeon itself who against solo stage.

 

so i agree with dmn

[Carlos]

I really hope you are right, but for the time being, until an explanation is given, i'll continue to be bummed.

 

Still, we have things to celebrate, like the impending comeback coming our way, so lets just wait until the official teasing begins 

you can ask directly to hyoyeon Instagram, hope the are K-SONE who took initiative rather than raging all ways which lead nothing (other than mess)

[Carlos]

with the revival of mighty battleship taengsic, hope there are no other taeyeon vs jessica or taeyeon hate jessica in the next couple of weeks

[Carlos]

 

i think i should post quote from oniontaker regarding members job activity:

 

 

 

anonymous asked: I always wondering, there always busy and jobless member, not jobless which is didn't have any job, but rarely seen in any events (on-air or off-air), SM doesn't give the job fairly or the jobless members don't get much offer?

 

 

answer:

Some people seem to forget that their job is to be an idol, and that they have been in employment, full-time, since they were teenagers to this day. So “job-less†doesn’t really cut the mustard as a description.

 

In terms of side projects outside of their main job, it comes down to whether they get offers or not and whether the idol themselves want to do it or not. In Taeyeon’s Ceci interview this month, she said that she didn’t like photoshoots before. Whereas someone like Jessica, that’s almost all she does.

 

There’s no “fair†or “unfair†job distribution. It’s simply commercial when it comes down to the bare bones of it, especially if you’re popular enough to get a “yes†wherever you ask if you can be involved. And the final decision comes down to the preference of the individual.

 

Source: http://www.oniontaker.com/post/70803123538/i-always-wondering-there-always-busy-and-jobless#axzz2oFDwqth1

 

 

 

 

 

in the end, is not all about SM. its true that SM who find/choosing the offer/jobs for the the girls, but final decision still on the member itself. that why some got lot of photoshoot, some dot get any but get something else, some prefer to just rest (have enough money).

 

hope can give more insight.

[Carlos]

what if turn out to be hyoyeon itself doesn't want to do solo stage, how the reaction from fans it would be?

 

u guys can ask directly to hyoyeon instagram (and hoping she will answer your question) rather than you guys raging all the ways on the thread which lead nothing but mess.

 

going upset is okay, and we can understand it. but getting rage and wish hyoyeon to leave snsd after spotlight that SM give to hyo in 2012 is too much. And you guys went little overboard by mad to us sones who not support your opinion ( blaming SM and wishing hyo to leave), while some of hyoyeon fans have reputation to making fun/downplayed other member isn't helping either.

 

is not the first time some of the members doesn't doing solo stage in SNSD concert or comeback special, but never get this mess except from hyoyeon fans.

[Carlos]

jessica........ :O

 

to bad jessica don't using swimsuit that been using by the real miss korea.

 

nosebleed.

[Carlos]

Jessica calling Taeyeon Byuntaeyeon 

 

edit: video ver

 

i bet night before concert jessica shown rehearsal of miss korea in front of taeyeon, after that jessica strip down her skirt and also her suimsuit in the front of taeyeon while she dancing to miss korea. taeyeon cant hold her felling and suddenlly run toward jessica..... (xxxx cencored part due to age restriction xxx) ... in the end taeyeon forgive jessica and saying "sica i love u"

[Carlos]

 

so we can assume that jessica first time is with taeyeon.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

yes I'm delusional taengsic shipper, come over me...!

[Carlos]

whoever stylist snsd tonight deserve an award

[Carlos]

Tiffany is probably not very good when it comes to dancing but at least she works hard at it.

 

Just wanted to say this bcuz I'm tired of the recent threads.

tiffany is bad dancer? sadly yes

 

tiffany is halfass? totally no, she work hard for it eventought there are limit for her dancing. even her teammates acknowledge her effort to take extra practice in order to catch up with other

Edited December 27, 2013 by Carlos

[Carlos]

SNSD's performance was extremely underwhelming.

 

The girls need at least the next three months completely off to do anything they want. They are obviously lacking passion and energy as a result of unimaginative management, material and being overworked for the last 7 years as an active group and anything between 2 to 7 years prior to that.

 

As excited as I am to see them do something remotely un-ayego in Korea without being somewhat bland (The Boys), there is only so long the girls will last if they continue their hectic schedules, endless flights to and from Japan and everything in between.

 

Proper downtime is required. Y'all can down vote this but we all known the girls need it more than I need Britney to bend ha knees for more than once a year. 

 

im agree,

 

but the biggest problem is... how u expect Sone to patiently waiting soshi comeback?

even with so much snsd activity, they are still greedy to asking more activity for the girls

 

yet alone 3 month, even one week without soshi activity sone already going nuts.

 

SM should reduce the individual activity so the member can focus in preparing comeback, however I'm sure more sone will whining about SM "neglecting", "destroying","unfair", "halfass","wasting" snsd.

[Carlos]

I think people who honestly care about the girls as individuals will easily see that their spirits are broken and they are exhausted. There comes a point when they need to look beyond what they want as fans to what SNSD need as humans. 

 

They need a minimum of three months of no schedules for them to travel, spend time with family, ski and hit the vodka in Hyoyeon's case and enjoy themselves. Preferably, the next three months would be spent with them conformable preparing for a comeback at the end of the second three month period where by they dictate the direction of their music, album, visuals, video, choreography by selecting who they want to work with. This direct personal involvement will get them excited, enthused and proud of the output, thus encouraging them to work to their maximum. 

 

But once again, I am ranting about a company who lack any sort of business acumen or care for the welfare of their rooster. 

 

yeah... hope SM can reduce all of the girls individual activity, i remember when 2-3 month before japan debut all of the member step down from their individual jobs in order to focus on preparing japan debut. the result is explosive performance on ariake colloseum, they can maintain their performance until 1st japan tour.

[Carlos]

That was horrific.

 

I expect better from SNSD. Y'all can continue to focus on rudimentary problems but there is a bigger issue here: SNSD themselves.

agree.. blaming other party will do no good, is just "hiding"/divert to main problem. don't blindly blaming everyone to make snsd looks innocent, just accept that the girl also responsible for their "weak" performance. Come on...!! snsd already 7 years in industries, they not like a children who cannot be blamed (or just blaming to their parent if there are a mistake). they cant relay on SM or PD to make performance looks good, they should have enough experience to handle technical dificulty.

 

now lets move on and hoping they can deliver better performance on MBC gayodaejun and next comeback

Edited December 29, 2013 by Carlos

[Carlos]

TTS save the day today..! they need a comeback

[Carlos]

Clashes, bashing, jealousy, man what has become of this fandom...

 

It's not taeyeon's fault for having more fans than soo, and not her fans' fault either for wanting to make a video for the occasion. Seriously if soo's fans are so unhappy about it then make your own for goodness' sake... problem solved. Can't do it yourself? Get someone who can. Jealous that your bias has less "super dedicated" (read: ranging from avid fan to just plain obsessed) fans? Don't be, even their biases may be uncomfortable with those "fans". Jealous that your bias has less fans than someone else's bias? Well that sucks, sorry to hear but that's just how life is.

 

Following the old wise words: don't hate the players hate the game.

[Carlos]

there will never ending discussion about lines distribution. how come u expect 9 people to get lot lines in 3-4 minute song?

 

not to mention people don't accept chorus as lines because they harmonising with other, so how to balanced 9 people in 1-2 minute?

 

 

for me, to the group with 9 people, instead of sharing/fighting for solo lines, SNSD should use advantages for harmonising, sing in different tune/note, make voice 1, voice 2, and voice adlibs. I wish there are different harmonising in first and second chorus (for ex, in first chorus, taeyeon high tones, seohyun low tone, yoona sooyoung backing voc. and second chorus jessica high tone, tiff low tone, hyo sunny backing. etc). so SNSD can produce so many kind of sound, and it will be interesting for fans to guest "who sang the chorus...??

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[Carlos]

it just my OPINION, but i prefer distribution line like EXILE (j-pop) with only their main vocal who sing, and the rest of group just focus to dancing. of just like EXO in immortal song when only baek, chen, DO who sing and the rest just backing vocal.

 

there will have different feel when only vocal line who sing, than if all nine sing. like song like day by day, haechi, gee acoustic, sorry2 remix is well executed.

 

well it look unfair for dancing lines, but don't see a problem with Exile, e-girls? their fans still respect them even thought they don't have any line, (and they respect their dancing talent) beside, if member who not vocally talented got more lines can be draw back because member who vocally talented have to cut lines (for example sooyong and yoona got more lines make jessica and sunny have to cut their line). Some of main vocal get less lines, is not because other main vocal get more lines (like more people in here accused to), but more because the dance line get more lines. i rarely see the member get more than 4 lines (except taeyeon), but now i often see that the member who usually got 1-2 lines get 3-4 lines.

 

do you think is more enjoyable to hear snsd song in mp3 if only vocal lines who sing? how do you think public will react? do you think public will love to hear just member good at sing? if public only hear good voice without average voice, are SNSD image will be different? (because lot of people say that SNSD have average vocal, but if u only include the vocal line, they are on the top 5), are people will more respect for dancing lines if they call themself as performer rather than singer?

 

your though?

[Carlos]

 

there will never ending discussion about lines distribution. how come u expect 9 people to get lot lines in 3-4 minute song?

not to mention people don't accept chorus as lines because they harmonising with other, so how to balanced 9 people in 1-2 minute?

for me, to the group with 9 people, instead of sharing/fighting for solo lines, SNSD should use advantages for harmonising, sing in different tune/note, make voice 1, voice 2, and voice adlibs. I wish there are different harmonising in first and second chorus (for ex, in first chorus, taeyeon high tones, seohyun low tone, yoona sooyoung backing voc. and second chorus jessica high tone, tiff low tone, hyo sunny backing. etc). so SNSD can produce so many kind of sound, and it will be interesting for fans to guest "who sang the chorus...??

"

Nobody's getting angry. We are just laughing at how silly some of their lines were.

LOL.. calm down......, i also don't think you also argue/fight each other now, just funny discussion.

but it true that you will have fans complain again in next SNSD release, some people doesn't get it.

 

and i just share opinion about SNSD should more focus on harmonising. maybe this will be work on and fans will less complain? they have advantages of 9 voices, rather than discussed on "who should get lines" how if we disscussed in what ways that they not waste it?

[Carlos]

HOLY FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

 

^T*G*YGBF&G*(&U(G

i see sone will need that oxygen tank.

 

SM try to give us heart attack...!!! taeyeon duet, taeyeon solo, and suddenly BAMM...!!!

 

when people think we will not get anything sooner, and suddeNly BAAMMMMM...!!!!

[Carlos]

waiting for meme of SM shareholder in SM building trolling us.

[Carlos]

SM is genius, make sone desperate for waiting. building hype not with media play, but with constant denial and rumour after rumour about comeback. and out of nowhere there are teaser and comeback date.

 

sone in chaos, other company also in chaos, other groups who comeback "fuck u SM, how should i delayed my comeback in short notice????"

 

people thinks SM is stupid, but actually they are just trolling us.

[Carlos]

Ok, it seems like many Sones don't understand. its not entirely up to SM to decide where to go for their tour. 

 

Lets think for a minute, many Sones have been complaining that this world tour is cheap. Cheap production, cheap tacky costumes, hardly any special effects , no hanging on wires, only cheap inflatable props.

Compared to their previous tours, it is cheap apparently. for a supposed world tour, its not very impressive

But why? 

Its to cut cost, but not for SM to save money.

 

Its to attract your local events company to bring in SNSD's concert to your local city. Making it cheaper means these  companies will be more interested to bring in the tour to their country. Becos then they can make a bigger profit.

Unfortunately, it did not work, the companies in europe, North & South America probably still did not want to take the risk. These companies still think rabid fangirls will only support male groups. They don;t see the massive fanbase of SNSD.

 

So don't blame SM for this. They know the world is not only Asia and the East/West coast of the US. They know lotsa Sones want to see SNSD in Europe and the Americas. But they can't foot the entire bill, plus logistics are better handled by a local company rather than SM sending people to do it. A local partner is needed.

 

What you should do is, the next time SM announces another tour, write to your local events company. Go onto their facebook, website, start a petition etc etc. Call them, show them that there are a lot of fans willing to go see SNSD live, let them know that if they bring in Soshi's concert, it will be profitable and worthwhile.

Not so hard right?

 

 

Now back to current events, Sooyoung on Instagram! and Weibo! first to get both! 

yeah... is been a hard time for sone in my countries to convince promotor to bring soshi, it is not about SM doesnt want soshi to reach overseas, is more like promotor afraid to take the risk. so is reasonable hat SM make tour more affordable.

 

heck if people compare it to why TVXQ and suju can get higher production than SNSD, dont forget that those two able to bring 3 - 5 times attendance than soshi, that why even the tour more costly, promotor still want to take it because is guarantee more profit. even in my country, SUJU and BIGBANG can hold concert for 3 days, but soshi only one. they not able to add more date because not enough demand for second date.

[Carlos]

 

 

at first, i still think that no way SM to delay the comeback, because with sones "pride", SM can forced sone to bulk buy in first and second week in order to compete with 2ne1. so i dont understand why they should head to head with 2ne1? are SM just want to troll YG and completely crush 2ne1??.

 

i thinks, SM strategy to hiding the comeback date is more to building the hype, sone who dying with comeback will do anything to finding the comeback news, which make anticipation more greater, more spazzing in internet, checking internet (and leaving message) everydays make anyone who doesnt care with SNSD comeback also got the impact. and if the time ready..BAM...!!!!!

 

imagine when suddenly the MV and album came out of nowhere??? sone who desperate will give bigger reaction if they got surprise (than if comeback date already announced). and i'm sure it would be chaos...!!!!!

 

damn..!!! SM is so smart to play with fans hearts, while fans call them stupid for wasting time in delaying comeback, actually they just make us desperate enough, make us begging about comeback (look how much comment from K-netz who begging with soshi comeback!!), and gives us heart attack (with surprise MV), and in the end sones will bulk buy because we want to completely crush 2ne1.