♥ Right Now, Tomorrow, Forever, 소녀시대 ♥ The Official Girls' Generation (SNSD) Thread

[hess]

Shush! I saw people talking about this on twitter so I had to see it for myself, I NEEDS MORE VERBAL FOREPLAY

Lol...it's on twitter? Looks like you're in for a letdown though since things kinda died down. No worries though! Bc you can just go back about 200 pages or so and get off on their previous fight. 

 

Honestly, both sides make good points. I tend to lean on storm's side myself as it's not our job as fans to be overly concerned with financial sales or the stock of SM Entertainment. SNSD isn't a mid tier girl group (I know, I stan two of them) who heavily relies on their digital sales for their future. SNSD can literally be picky with their music and take chances like give members more than a 5 second snippet of a title song without SNSD's sales going down into the toilet or SM's stock price dropping. It is possible to do both.

 

Both sides probably aren't going to flinch though and I think that's the sense of most's frustration. It is literally the same argument over and over again.

I agree and disagree with both. Mainly though, I can't believe that they keep arguing knowing full well neither is going to change opinions. Even more so, I can't believe I still skim through their arguments. Can't say whether I don't want to miss out or if I'm waiting for them to bring up something new. 

 

If you start a argu-debate about posters who argu-debate about fandom disagreements and argu-debates, does it make you an argu-debater about argu-debating over fandom argu-debates?

 

CAN WE A YO GG ???

I believe it makes me an argu-debater about other agu-debaters who argue-debate over fandom argu-debates.

 

Not sure whether or not we just said the same thing...

[hess]

now I'm just confused.

Lol, me too honestly. 

I like discussion but I wish it didn't always have to turn into an argument. It's hard to have a normal discussion here these days without people attacking each other because they don't agree. It doesn't have to be all positive all the time, but there is a way to respectfully disagree rather than just coming at someone out of the blue with your claws out. 

 

 

Nah, I think most people are at least a little bit cynical about it. It's a huge undertaking and since there hasn't been a successful kpop act here yet it makes sense for people to be skeptical. But I'd rather the girls try than play it safe and only stay in Korea/Japan. They're attempting to grow and expand and it keeps them doing new things. I'm excited for the possibilities but am also keeping a (somewhat) realistic mindset. More than anything, I'm just excited to (hopefully) get an album to sing along to and UNDERSTAND \o/

That's definitely one side to things. I would really just prefer them focus on Asia, and more specifically Japan/Korea though. 

I can argu-debate that point u_u

 

And I generally know Stormy's POV on things or I'm not surprised by things he says, although we don't talk as much anymore, but reviewing one exchange between them is enough to get the general gist of dmn's side of things :D

 

dmn has an pretty straight forward naivety that you kinda gotta dig deep down into patience to look for before you take offense to anything he says -- he's learning, he'll be rainbows and SNSD butterfly feels on the outside just as much as he probably is on the inside 

Stormy's pov in these arguments are just as predictable as dmn's though imo. Both have good points that I agree with, but I think both also let their personal opinions cloud their views. Either way, I'd say they're both pretty stubborn and have a hard time understanding something from someone else's perspective. Dmn more so than storm though bc he's such a...unique fan. Easy to see why people don't get how his numbers are his way of looking out for snsd's best interests.

[hess]

Should we continue to stray into open gossip about the two of them by saying they might be more alike than either realize  

 

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nah, me gusta you and your opinions, though, thanks for being hess as hess does, hess

We can always just wait till the next fight breaks out to continue this. I give it 2 weeks? 

 

 

*ahem*

 

 

 

 

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"SOOYOUNG IS A PREACHER"

HELL YEAH SHE IS, HOW ELSE AM I SUPPOSED TO BE SAVED BY THE KPOP GODS IF NOT IN THE CHURCH OF SOOYOUNG?? I WILL FEEL HER WORD ANNNNY DAY OF THE WEEK

 

"HYOYEON AND YOONA ARE ANNOYING BRATS "

SHIT YEAH THEY'D BETTER BE, THERE IS NO OTHER RATIONAL EXPLANATION FOR HOW BOTHERED THEY MAKE ME

 

"TAEYEON IS A HIPSTER"

EFFFF YEAH, THE PERVERSION QUEEN CANNOT RULE HER PERVERTED SNSD BUNS FILLED KINGDOM WITHOUT THE NEEDS TO BE INDEPENDENTLY, IRONICALLY UN-UNIQUE IN HER REFUSAL TO BE DEFINED BY HER OWN QUEER

BUTTS.KNOW.NO.GENDER

 

 

"JESSICA IS A BIOTCH"

NO SHIZNITS, WE LIKE IT WHEN IT HURTS

 

SUNNY IS A TRY-HARD

HELL YEAH, HER BEST QUALITY, HAVE YOU SEEN THOSE AMPLE ASSETS? HARD SHOULD ALWAYS BEEN AN ASSOCIATED WORD WHEN IT COMES TO HER

 

YURI IS AN ATTENTION whore SEEKER

DUDE, HER THIGHS CAN'T HELP IT THAT THEY ARE THE COMPLETION OF THE SNSD SEXUAL CIRCLE OF LIFE

ATTENTION SEEKING HAS NEVER BEEN MORE IRONICALLY ACCURATE

I'm sure hipster!taeng ironically approves as well u_u

 

 

"SEOHYUN IS AN UPTIGHT PUNK"

THANK FUCK, SOMEONE HAS TO KEEP THEM ON SCHEDULE AND WELL FED

These thighs don't feed themselves ...

 

 

"AND TIFFANY FAILS HARD AT EVERYTHING"

Sooooo does this explain why she gets so much practice at everything ???

The angered fans here will be appeased   

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

i'm out of making stupid perverted snsd jokes shape, that took twice the time it normally used to take me to instantly corrupt everything

 

 

And thank you for doing haz as haz does. Although I see someone's getting a bit rusty.

[hess]

The root word of fan is fanatical for a reason. We aren't here to make logical sense. We are here to push upon our desires and hopes on a group that aren't realistic all of the time nor should they be shunned.

 

I just don't get why we tend to act like SNSD is this struggling, barely making it group that will disband or fall apart because they have one underperforming song or one instance where they didn't reach our sales mark or because fans want things that don't make financial sense. SNSD is not going to disband because they tried to experiment on a song. SNSD isn't going to disband because they give Hyoyeon or Sooyoung more than 1 line in a song. SNSD isn't going to fucking disband or lose their place because fans wish for them to do things that may not make logical sense.

 

I (and haze) stan Crayon Pop, a group that we would celebrate actually hitting the Melon chart, let alone hitting the roof. I think our thread will go nuts if we are 99th on the Melon chart. WE have to concern ourselves more with sales simply  because the group's very existence is dependent on it. From that perspective, I find most of this wank comical and the sign of a fandom who has forgotten how lucky they have it.

Going off on a tangent here...I'm a fan who thinks this fandom has taken SNSD's #1 spot and all of their countless awards and achievements, built it up for more than it's worth, and think the girls are in a much more comfortable and safer seat than they actually are. IMO, the era of idols is clearly on the decline. And SNSD have clearly lost some ground. I don't mean that they're closer to losing their #1 position. But that they don't hold as big of a share at #1 as they did a couple years ago. Mainly because of other groups gaining popularity, the debut of like 100 other groups, and them no longer promoting 24/7. Rather than forgetting how lucky we are, I think we've forgotten that SNSD isn't invincible. (Just to clarify, this has absolutely nothing to do with a more even line distribution). I don't mean to say that they're about to disband or lose their place on top soon. But more like I think their decline is coming sooner than a lot of people think or are willing to believe.

 

Whew...I tried to word that as softly as I could. Gonna end this on a different note so I don't get accusations of being emo like my bias. 

 

 

If shit like this actually goes down on a scheduled basis, it would make life so much easier for me to plan on being around and jumping right on in.

 

 

And if I can get the both of 'em to mud wrestle with me while having The Boys on repeat in the background at some point in time, since dmn will be showing both emotional connect and curiosity at this point while stormy will have let go of all his KPOP regrets, then it can only be attributed to me getting back into prime hazee shape.

Looking forward to the show

[hess]

I got a minus for saying this on tiff thread

 

People you aint korean so try to see something from their view

 

I know because my country have the same manner too.

everyone have a place that they think it's important or should I say respectable? I cant find the right words lol. But I hope you get my point.

feel free to minus me.

I saw your post earlier and +1'd it. I think you have a point. 

[hess]

True but my point is that experimentation, line distribution and/or other fan grievances will not speed up that inevitable decline nor does it mean the actual group itself is on a sharp decline. It's much better to be at the top of an ivory tower looking down than being at the bottom looking at the top.

 

Honestly, SNSD's status at #1 isn't necessarily in doubt but not because of SNSD but because other groups simply haven't made the step they've needed to take to go to #1 sans SISTAR. There is a lot of stagnation in general but thats another discussion for another day.

I'd say it's debatable whether or not promoting more traditional hook songs like Gee and Oh could garner them more long term success. But I'm glad they're not going that route. But yeah, my sidebar really had nothing to do with the point you were making. Just something I've been thinking for a while and felt like getting out there. 

[hess]

I think the biggest problem with all of the success SNSD has earned is that fans are quick to bring it up as an excuse for everything they do.

It enables complacency - not just on our part, but also on SM's.

If you see my posts around the rest of the forum, you'll know how I feel about the direction k-pop is going in.

It's like all these groups set bars for themselves and they're just not able to reach them again.

I know that you like old SNSD material over their recent move away from the traditional kpop song blueprint. I like their old stuff too, but I'd gag if they went back to their lollipop waving days. And from the perspective of SM, I think it's more experimental rather than complacency. I think the were trying to set a new trend, stand out from the crowd and lead the way--in other words, get them to the next level--rather than throwing 5 songs together last minute, even though that might've been what it sounded like. 

 

So what are your favorite snsd songs btw since I've only seen your disdain for their recent singles. 

[hess]

No it's a fair point and one to consider. All groups peak. Has SNSD peaked? do they still have another peak? Does it matter?

 

Ofc, personal opinion about said song mean absolutely nothing about those questions and that's where the noise comes in.

Honestly, I do think they've peaked. Or at least plateaued. Chances for another peak? There's a chance with Japan, but it's iffy. Does it matter? To their careers- I'm expecting more solo activities. To SM- time to build up their new cash cow. To me- not really, still a fan. I do wonder how they'll feel when they pass their peak though. Reminds me of Jolin Tsai's song on the topic. Not even a fan of hers but damn if that didn't make me depressed.

I posted this in another thread but I'll paste it here since it sums up my feelings:

In terms of maturity, the group takes 1 step forward and then 2 steps back. There isn't a coherent evolution.

Part of the fanbase - mostly Korean and Japanese it seems - want them to stay with the cutesy aegyo concepts while the other part wants them to grow up for good. The division between the two is apparent in basically everything they do. They have to put out songs like My J and Say Yes to counteract Oscar and Trick. They release Japanese Oh!, Beep Beep, and Love&Girls to balance out their other Japanese singles.

As "experimental" as IGAB may seem, the whole chorus is still repetitive, monotonous, and hookish - i got a boy munchin, i got a boy chicken, i got a boy fjalfkjajlfa, i got a boy asadfalhjlfa. Korea's producers are stuck in a major rut - from SM to YG to Brave Bros. Kenzie [the genius behind ITNW] was one of SM's best producers and now she's putting out songs like Why So Serious and Wolf... like do I even need to say more? There needs to be a balance between bland/generic (Yoohoo, Love&Girls) and clusterfuck/chaos (WYN, IGAB). 

If you look outside of the SNSD fandom, people seriously question how deserving SNSD is of their current top dog status. And I can't say I disagree.

 

2neways...

fave Soshi songs are Destiny, Show!x3, Wake Up, you-aholic, Oscar, Express 69, and Reflection.

what about you?

Okay, I agree with you here. But I wouldn't call this fan complacency so much as inability to move on from the past. Here's one move SM does with the fans in mind. Aren't you all about what the fans want? 

 

Get out, you didn't like Wolf!? Lol. Anyways, I think that the idea of IGAB could've been better executed (ie not sounding like a clusterfuck on first listen) without having to mix in any bland and generic. But I get your point and I think SM would be better off picking up more in-house producers. 

 

Definitely see your "type" in songs. As for some of mine: Oscar, Trick, RDR, Starx3, Beginning, Genie, Bad Girl, Born to be a lady, Day by day, Chocolate Love, Mistake, Be happy 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

LOL, jokes on that last one. 

[hess]

Couple pages late, but oh well...

It's not even about a censorship of discussions or opinions. Believe it or not, there's a way to share an opinion and/or criticize SNSD/certain members without having to bring down the other members or users. It's about common courtesy. Not that I can't "handle" the tea discussion, but the tryhard sass is annoying and a turnoff. This place should have a friendly and inviting atmosphere for discussion/spazz/whatever. Not a place for people to obnoxiously shut down other people and walk around with a superiority complex.

 

[hess]

   YURI GOT INSTAGRAM! Wonder what kind of things she'll like/follow. No doubt, a ton of mickey mouse stuff...

You evil evil person should get into marketing. 

 

LOL is that that episode where Jessica is told to eat the cucumber but she can't eat cucumbers so Onew eats it in her stead but thing is he can't eat cucumbers either so he just spit it out right after that? XDD

 

Not that I watched it I just saw gifs xD

   

 

Yup! That's the one. Onew can't eat cucumbers either? I know that that dish was also made to taste bad, which I thought was the primary reason he spit it out. But yeah, keep us updated on what you think as you watch their variety stuff! 

 

 

 

[hess]

Yup he can't...that's why he never swallowed it. Can't eat watermelons either xD...(weird guy). That's why he never swallowed it...you know once you have something bad-tasting in your mouth the fastest way to get rid of it without it being disgusting is swallowing it down fast, but he couldn't cause allergy. I dunno if he was being a selfless gentleman or just straightout dumb and forgot about his allergy when he agreed to do it for her. xD

 

I didn't even start yet.  I have some dramas to catch up on and a book to read for uni so... But I guess I'll start on Sunday or something. With Hello Baby. 

What a gentleman~

 

Hope you like HB! Their baby is really young, so rather than a lot of member interaction with a kid, you get to see members finding ways to entertain themselves (ie lots of goofing off). 

 

 

 

I hope everyone's right with the Sooyoung prediction. Then my top 3 biases will have made my life complete 

[hess]

I agree, if SNSD wants to be taken seriously in the US, they need to steer clear of the rapping. Fast talking would be okay as long as it's just 1-2 lines, not IGAB where the whole song is this fast talk-rap thing. And I don't think their Japanese material like Flower Power, Beep Beep, etc would be well received.

 

As much as I like their more "badass" sounding songs like Oscar, I do think they would find more success with Taylor Swift kinda stuff. 

 

 

And am I the only one who does not get the obsession with Animal and Reflection??

[hess]

So I watched the first episode of Hello Baby and loool~

 

Yoona and Yuri (feat. Sooyoung) being butthurt is priceless.  And Taeyeon saying "nipple" instead of "pacifier".  (plus glimpses of her ahjumma laugh, I love it when she does that)

 

The one I sympathized the most with in this episode is Tiffany tho. She seems so distressed all the time, trying really hard but being really heartbroken when she fails.  She's reminding me of myself...well I used to be like that until my cousin was born and through interacting with him I got a little bit more comfortable with kids.

 

All in all, pretty enjoyable.  Where's Jessica tho? o:

 

 

Don't be ecstatic just yet. :P I tend to take a lot of time before I actually choose a bias I stay with. That said I could see me biasing Sunny. So far

 

I actually want to watch another episode of Hello Baby now but my eyes are already closing...so I'll do that tomorrow I guess. 

There's lots of Yoonyul on HB, haha. Probably the most memorable thing for me when I first watched it. 

Yeah, prepare to do more sympathizing with Tiff. The two do eventually get more comfortable with each other though. It was nice to watch. 

I think Jessica is gone a lot because of Legally Blonde musical. From what I remember though, Taeyeon is absent the most. Probably because of radio DJing and WGM. 

You definitely need to check out Invincible Youth after this. I bet you'll fall for Sunny even more   

I think they're doing an English version of IGAB though...iirc it was mentioned a looong time ago back when IGAB was getting all that worldwide press. I like the song but if they do make an English version I hope it won't be their lead single.

Yeah, as long as it's not their lead single. It's not like I hate the song. But I just don't imagine it going over well here...

Lol no it wasn't you or anybody in particular at all!  Just saying there's been so much negativity and intense criticism about literally EVERYTHING the girls have released recently. Seems like I'm one of the only ones who have enjoyed pretty much everything they've been giving us and I'm looking forward to whatever they do next. I refuse to be pessimistic about it. Sorry if it seemed like I was singling anyone out because I wasn't at all!

I love how you're always so upbeat about everything. You're like the guy who's always smiling and always finds something to be happy about. Hope it never changes

[hess]

someone reposted this on tumblr and reminded me why sooyoung ruins every bias list. 

Lol Sooyoung...I'm gonna need to steal this line to defend myself from judgmental friends.

 

     

OMG this last picture has me biting my lip to not laugh out loud.

 

Okay, so that Flower Power English remake is better than I would've imagined. I take back what I said before. But still, I'd rather them not do remakes.

[hess]

Was starting to feel empty going so long without some arguing, lol.

 

My opinion: I think everything is fine to a certain extent. 

 

Fanfics are fine as long as you aren't blinded into delusion.

Pics at the airport are fine as long as you keep your distance and aren't in their face. If they say no pics, then don't make them ask more than once. 

 

Stalking them on their vacation is definitely another level of invasion of privacy. The girls have been friendly to fans with cameras at the airport before. So I don't necessarily think that they have a problem with that alone.

[hess]

I think the point is not that Fans are not allowed to take a picture on airport or other event or fanart, fanfic etc. Because it's impossible since they're celebrity they're artist and that's one of the risk. But it was more to how this fandom is exaggerating some 'little things' who actually is going on and or already happened before. The different is just because Taeyeon said it on her beautifully sad words and since people already know what kind of person Taeyeon is. So they think it really is important to talk bout and Judging dem fans hard because of this 'incident'.

And people fail to see other members who already give warnings both from said it directly or with acts.

 

It actually is not necessary to have this kind of discussion since we sure will forgot this incident in no time and did the same thing, and then brag about it again later when it happened again.

 

Did you people not know why Taeyeon to choose that kind of sentences and not directly said it?? For me it was because she KNEW. She knew that whatever it is she/other girls say some people will always don't care and repeat things again and again. It's pointless for you people to mad here on forum or twitter or othrr SNS, and asking people to respect their privacy just because you have more follower like some of them did just now bec They DO NOT CARE or maybe they'll forgot later when they meet them irl.

In your first par, if you're complaining about how sones show Taeyeon more support than the other members, then I'm sorry, but I'm not interested in getting into that discussion again.

 

As for your other point. You're right in that no matter how much we talk about this issue, there's still no stopping some random fan in the future from overstepping their boundaries. We can't help it to be upset though, or to admonish other sones, or remind each other where we should stand as fans though. Even if we can't change certain situations, it doesn't seem right to just stand by and passively watch it continue.

[hess]

I think the two sides that were arguing about stalking vs fanfics aren't necessarily disagreeing with each other.

 

One side is saying that both smut and stalking is bad behavior. Auratus isn't giving smut writers a free pass necessarily, but saying that stalking is worse because it physically puts the girls in danger.

 

And I don't think people realize how much fanfic material is out there that ISN'T smut. The people who read/write smut are mostly just sexually frustrated girls, imo. Not people who mean any disrespect. It's highly disturbing though and doesn't sit well with me, but again, I think it only becomes a problem when they start blurring fiction with reality.

[hess]

Hello everyone

Each time I went here I saw a deep discussion... lol

 

Does it exist fancam of I'm Diamond during their concert in Seoul please?

I think your question kinda got buried. Idk if it exists, but I'll quote you so hopefully someone who knows sees this.

 

Glad that someone likes them. I was contemplating about whether posting them makes sense since most of you probably already know the show, but since some people said to keep them updated. :D

Yes! I like seeing what your first reaction is to variety soshi. It's been a while since my own experience.

I usually tell this to other new sones, and ask them to share with me. But I guess they don't think I mean it because you're the first one to do it. 

 

so, just because they read or write smut, they're sexualy frustrated? what?

It's just my opinion. And I said most. Girls are into porn too, but it's more often in the form of words/books rather than videos. Idk, maybe it makes it more acceptable somehow. But my underlying point was that I don't think it's disrespectful as long as they realize what they're imagining is made up. It's disturbing but not disrespectful. Of course, everyone has different ideas of respect, so it's not like there's a right or wrong here.

[hess]

That's why I made a point to mention the airport situations. That arguably puts the girls in MORE danger, even with the security protocols and we just accept it at times.

Again, I'm not saying crazy behavior and shoving cameras in their faces is acceptable. But safety wise, I'd disagree and say that being alone and meeting a crazy stalker fan is scarier. At the airport at least you have a manager, there's some security, members are probably around.

 

Just imagine the stories the girls have told about creepy men stalking and running after them at their apartments. Those situations could have much worse outcomes than what could happen at an airport--which is in public with plenty of people and cameras around.

 

I do agree that the members of the group probably do understand that this is how idol fandom works. It probably amuses them that so many in the fandom consider them as physical objects of personal desires and fantasies rather than actual human beings but they have their friends and family to consider them human beings.

And those people are the ones who can't separate fact from fiction. So we're actually agreeing here.

[hess]

People here pretty much said what I want to say regarding this "topic" so I'll just wait for another one if ever.

Don't worry, I'm sure you won't have to wait long   

 

HyoYul MBC comeback show with SuJu-M's Henry, MCD comeback as MC, and now Mnet's Dancing 9..

 

 

Tell me it's a sign of HyoYul sub-unit??????

Don't toy with my emotions like that! Mentioning HyoRi subunit puts me in a very fragile state 

[hess]

 

[TRANS] "I don't have any worries because I'm with my Taengoo (also lyrics to the korean pokemon theme song;; original lyrics say "my friend")" 

I live and breathe for TaeRi interaction

[hess]

I wasn't sure if you really meant it tbh   I just thought might as well post it and just stop when someone complains (Robert doesn't count imo, he just seems annoyed by everything I say...like it's part of his principles). Good to know you actually meant it tho. ♥

Idk why anyone would complain honestly. I mean...you're talking about SNSD on their variety show in an SNSD thread. Isn't that kinda what this thread is for? Even if they complain, I say, just keep posting because you're not breaking any rules.

died

 

 

don't take this seriously

LOL. I reloaded the page because I thought this pic didn't load properly......and then I got it.

[hess]

Dating Agency; Cyrano OST_Part 3

 

 

I love this!

 

 

Waiting for HyoRiYoon subunit..............I see they've started learning the choreo already.

[hess]

I haven't started watching Sooyoung's drama yet, I'm waiting until it's almost over because I hate waiting for new episodes whenever I'm really into it haha. I really enjoyed The Third Hospital. Her acting blew me away. She handled that character really well and I can't even imagine how hard it must have been to portray the darkness and struggles her character had to go through. 

 

I'm glad to hear this drama is good, because K-Dramas can go stale for me really quick. Even my love for Yuri could not get me through Fashion King. I still haven't finished Love Rain yet either :/ although I was really enjoying that one. Even though I liked The Third Hospital it still got somewhat repetitive and drug on a little bit in the main story, but Sooyoung's plot really helped me get through it. The only K-Drama I watched that I flew through and was head over heels about was Reply 1997.

 

But I'm looking forward to checking out Sooyoung's new drama! I've heard only good things about it so far. 

Reply 1997 was awesome!! I've actually started rewatching it, lol. I think you will enjoy Cyrano Agency. Personally, I've seen a lot of dramas, so I get bored and/or annoyed easily. If it wasn't for Sooyoung, I would've dropped it after the first few eps. But out of soshi dramas, I'd say this and Love Rain have been the best. 

 

 

Sooyoung's drama is promising and worth watching. I was expecting the usual for Korean dramas aka the first episodes being boring as hell but I got a pleasant surprise... Sooyoung's acting is nothing to be ashamed of, I'm really proud of her.

 

The only minus is...as almost always in dramas, the main female character is portrayed as stupid and annoying at times. Like a 5 years old kid. But that's not Sooyoung's fault.

This. Sooyoung's character isn't bad. But I know EXACTLY what you're talking about. For some reason Asian dramas always make the female lead ugly, annoying, or stupid. Or, in the worst case scenario, a combination of all 3. I think it's really just to give females hope that they can get into relationships with rich, good looking guys though. I mean, dramas are geared towards girls. 

 

Lol. You should post more and share more of your drawings. I like them. 

[hess]

Things on my prayer list:

 

1. Sunny to stay away from every pair of scissors within a 5 mile radius for the next year.

2. Hyoyeon to dip her hair in a bucket of brown paint.

3. People in this thread to gain a sense of humor when it comes to Robert/Sooyoung's posts. Y'all wouldn't last a day if SNSD actually end up promoting in America because you'll have to deal with his no-holds-barred style of posting from people that don't like the group.

You forgot #Sooyoung2013