♥ Right Now, Tomorrow, Forever, 소녀시대 ♥ The Official Girls' Generation (SNSD) Thread

[pretty_angel92]

download "find your soul"

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLZkIQL0srM

link in the description

Edited December 1, 2013 by pretty_angel92

[PurpleSparkles88]

Some Taeyeon look-alike

 

Whoever this is really does look like Tae.

[Sooyoung]

What do people think about the way SM go about getting songs for SNSD? Are they looking in the right places? 

 

Currently, they get a lot of SNSD's title tracks from production teams like Dsign music (the iconic Genie, the jarring yet iconic I Got A Boy, the regressive b-side Beep Beep and the single that never should have been, Love & Girls). 

 

Are they going to the wrong place for this music?

 

Personally, I think they should be scouring the internet for underground producers. Comparatively, to purchase the rights of a song from a production team as established in the Asian markets is expensive whereas underground producers are experts in their craft, generally lacking opportunities to create songs for large artists and to sell their music to profitable labels. 

 

These underground producers create mix tapes, filled purely with instrumentals, carefully crafted over months. This is where SM should be going. These producers are often poor and eager to create, produce and sell music and the rights to their production to anyone as a way of gaining status and interest in their material. I have previously proposed that SM work with Danja (Gimme' More by Britney Spears among many of the tracks on her highly critically acclaimed album Blackout). Although I stand by this, he charges between $50,000 to $100,000 for the rights to tracks produced by him. To purchase the rights to tracks from an underground producer, potentially of equal or better quality, can be anything below $10,000. 

 

Additionally, from an ethical perspective, SM tend to purchase tracks from these established production teams, intended on writing tracks to produce hits to get maximum profit. The faceless, sterile, nature of this focuses little on the organic production of music for the love of it, whereas the business, commercially profitable nature of the industry is laced throughout this. Therefore, by giving unknown producers, working off little money, simply producing for the love of it, the chances to produce for SNSD both enables them to be given opportunities they would otherwise never get as well as give SNSD more organically created music.

 

Additionally, SNSD's Korean albums are filled to the brim with badly produced, stale ballads and mid-tempos from 2008. Therefore, through use of underground producers, SNSD can release albums which stand for themselves as a full, well produced, high quality body of work, as opposed to a physical release of one single with what are, nine to ten b-sides. This crucially, from a business stand point, is viable, requiring little money to purchase the tracks, easily enabling the quality of SNSD's Korean albums to excel to new heights.

 

Finally, the whole nature of the underground music scene needs to be considered. Mainstream trends in music originate from sounds and styles utilised in the underground music scene. What we hear in music is what transcends the commercial ladder successfully, just like how electro-pop did in the early/mid 2000's, dub step in latter years etc. To go straight to the source of this music is what would allow SNSD to pioneer new sounds as opposed to following trends in music. A group of SNSD's status should be doing more than just introducing visual styles but also musical sounds. 

 

SM, the most tentative, delayed label in Korea are forever keen to ensure SNSD's albums doesn't stray too far from their initial sound, especially given that the style of music in question is what ALLEGEDLY resonates best with their Korean fan base and the public. Therefore, to at least phase this style of A&R into their management would allow for SNSD to make the transition from, in regards to quality, singles artists to album artists, along with their fan base as to ensure that they aren't alienated.

 

Take songs like this: well produced by an underground producer, versatile enough to apply lyrics and vocals to, and most importantly, trendy, cool, unique. 

 

 

 

(Lone - Pinapple Crush) - This was since purchased by Azealia Banks and is now titled Liquorice. This type of A&R is what SM need to pursue for SNSD.

 

What do people think? Do you agree with this?

[Lenalee]

snsd - gossip girls (가십 걸스) (japan 3rd album song #1) (radio premiere record preview)

http://cfile26.uf.tistory.com/media/2170543B529B63191905A6

[Sooyoung]

snsd - gossip girls (가십 걸스) (japan 3rd album song #1) (radio premiere record preview)

http://cfile26.uf.tistory.com/media/2170543B529B63191905A6

 

This should have been what the 2nd Japanese album should have sounded like along with Flower Power, Paparazzi, Animal, Reflection, All My Love Is For You, Galaxy Supernova etc.

[FuckUOver]

What do people think about the way SM go about getting songs for SNSD? Are they looking in the right places? 

 

Currently, they get a lot of SNSD's title tracks from production teams like Dsign music (the iconic Genie, the jarring yet iconic I Got A Boy, the regressive b-side Beep Beep and the single that never should have been, Love & Girls). 

 

Are they going to the wrong place for this music?

 

Personally, I think they should be scouring the internet for underground producers. Comparatively, to purchase the rights of a song from a production team as established in the Asian markets is expensive whereas underground producers are experts in their craft, generally lacking opportunities to create songs for large artists and to sell their music to profitable labels. 

 

These underground producers create mix tapes, filled purely with instrumentals, carefully crafted over months. This is where SM should be going. These producers are often poor and eager to create, produce and sell music and the rights to their production to anyone as a way of gaining status and interest in their material. I have previously proposed that SM work with Danja (Gimme' More by Britney Spears among many of the tracks on her highly critically acclaimed album Blackout). Although I stand by this, he charges between $50,000 to $100,000 for the rights to tracks produced by him. To purchase the rights to tracks from an underground producer, potentially of equal or better quality, can be anything below $10,000. 

 

Additionally, from an ethical perspective, SM tend to purchase tracks from these established production teams, intended on writing tracks to produce hits to get maximum profit. The faceless, sterile, nature of this focuses little on the organic production of music for the love of it, whereas the business, commercially profitable nature of the industry is laced throughout this. Therefore, by giving unknown producers, working off little money, simply producing for the love of it, the chances to produce for SNSD both enables them to be given opportunities they would otherwise never get as well as give SNSD more organically created music.

 

Additionally, SNSD's Korean albums are filled to the brim with badly produced, stale ballads and mid-tempos from 2008. Therefore, through use of underground producers, SNSD can release albums which stand for themselves as a full, well produced, high quality body of work, as opposed to a physical release of one single with what are, nine to ten b-sides. This crucially, from a business stand point, is viable, requiring little money to purchase the tracks, easily enabling the quality of SNSD's Korean albums to excel to new heights.

 

Finally, the whole nature of the underground music scene needs to be considered. Mainstream trends in music originate from sounds and styles utilised in the underground music scene. What we hear in music is what transcends the commercial ladder successfully, just like how electro-pop did in the early/mid 2000's, dub step in latter years etc. To go straight to the source of this music is what would allow SNSD to pioneer new sounds as opposed to following trends in music. A group of SNSD's status should be doing more than just introducing visual styles but also musical sounds. 

 

SM, the most tentative, delayed label in Korea are forever keen to ensure SNSD's albums doesn't stray too far from their initial sound, especially given that the style of music in question is what ALLEGEDLY resonates best with their Korean fan base and the public. Therefore, to at least phase this style of A&R into their management would allow for SNSD to make the transition from, in regards to quality, singles artists to album artists, along with their fan base as to ensure that they aren't alienated.

 

Take songs like this: well produced by an underground producer, versatile enough to apply lyrics and vocals to, and most importantly, trendy, cool, unique. 

 

 

 

(Lone - Pinapple Crush) - This was since purchased by Azealia Banks and is now titled Liquorice. This type of A&R is what SM need to pursue for SNSD.

 

What do people think? Do you agree with this?

by the way, how do you know their range?

 

but, at least SM should try work with Taylor Swift LOL

[mikiangel]

snsd - gossip girls (가십 걸스) (japan 3rd album song #1) (radio premiere record preview)

http://cfile26.uf.tistory.com/media/2170543B529B63191905A6

Mess!

[FuckUOver]

snsd - gossip girls (가십 걸스) (japan 3rd album song #1) (radio premiere record preview)

http://cfile26.uf.tistory.com/media/2170543B529B63191905A6

I have not been able to assess. coz, this is only snip

 

but, kinda.... meh..

Edited December 1, 2013 by FuckUOver

[Sooyoung]

by the way, how do you know their range?

 

but, at least SM should try work with Taylor Swift LOL

 

Danja's is general knowledge in the industry. He is an established producer so based on that figure, we can estimate the cost of tracks from unknown producers.

[FuckUOver]

Danja's is general knowledge in the industry. He is an established producer so based on that figure, we can estimate the cost of tracks from unknown producers.

Oh i see.

 

do you agree if SM should try works with Taylor Swift?

 

hahahaha!!!   coz, it will be interesting

[Sooyoung]

 

do you agree if SM should try works with Taylor Swift?

 

hahahaha!!!   coz, it will be interesting

 

Why would they?

 

Taylor Swift's music is only as good as the producers she works with anyway. Why not invest in some good tracks by producers than lure a 20-something who releases juvenile music onto a track?

[Lenalee]

[FuckUOver]

Why would they?

 

Taylor Swift's music is only as good as the producers she works with anyway. Why not invest in some good tracks by producers than lure a 20-something who releases juvenile music onto a track?

By the way, her second album FEARLESS is the best for me. she work by her self. she created her song by her self. Got 4 Grammy awards in one night.

But, for Red she works with many A list producer and one of them is Max Martin and shelbeck. but, w/o GRAMMY. she wins in Safe and Sound (her song) only this years and created by her self.

 

back to our Girls and SM.

for me, SM should try new producer not from mainstream who created bubble gum music

but, if you want the girls have different flavors of their music. why not try to works with Ryand Tedder or Dan Wilson from semi sonic or Greg Kurstin.

[FrazerNg]

Find Your Soul Pinyin lyrics 

 

based on chinese lyrics :

 

 

 

 

 

 

Qing ni xiang xin wo    Right now

Bu yong wen    bu yong xiang    qu na li    jiu gen zhe zhe lu de fang xiang

Wo gei ni jia man ji su li liang    ji de gen jing wo bu fa

Zai ni xin li    dian qi huo yan    rang ni lun xian    xian zai ni yi shu yu wo

Shi zai nan yi xiang xiang    mei you wo ni hui zhen yang

Zhe yi xun jian    jiu zai zhe yi xun jian

Ba dan xin diu diao    ni zhi yong gen wo wang qian bu duan de

Xun zhao    bu duan zhui zhu ben pao

Gen zhe na dao rang ni xing zhang    fa tang de guang mang

 

Get it Get it    jia duo dian qiang lie   gan jue    kuai fei teng ban re lie

Dai ni qu na yi wang de di fang    gen jing wo ba   Find Your Soul

Take it Take it    jing jing zhua zhai shou shang    jue dui   bu hui fang kai xi wang

Zhuang man zi xing jiu qi pao ba    gen wo yi qi    Find Your Soul

 

Zhuang man wo de shuang yan    mei ren ke yi chao yue

Gan jue qiang lie li liang    xian zai jiu yao   Find Your Soul

Zhan ju wo xin zang    he shui do bu yi yang

Chuan da zhe re qing   shan shuo yao yan    Find Your Soul

 

Qing ni xiang xin wo    Right now

Bu yong wen    qu na ni    bu yong pa    dao diao ni xin li de kong ju

Wo gei ni zhu ru man man de li liang    ni ke yi bu zai you yu

Mei you wei ju   chong man zi xin    zhe cai shi ni    zui you mei li de mu yang

Zhi you ni neng zuo dao    Zhi you ni ke yi zuo dao

Kao jing yi dian    zai kao jing wo yi dian

Dang wo men zai bi ci shen bian    mei you hai pa

 

Get it Get it    jia duo dian qiang lie   gan jue    kuai fei teng ban re lie

Dai ni qu na yi wang de di fang    gen jing wo ba   Find Your Soul

Take it Take it    jing jing zhua zhai shou shang    jue dui   bu hui fang kai xi wang

Zhuang man zi xing jiu qi pao ba    gen wo yi qi    Find Your Soul

Zhuang man wo de shuang yan    mei ren ke yi chao yue

Gan jue qiang lie li liang    xian zai jiu yao   Find Your Soul

Zhan ju wo xin zang    he shui do bu yi yang

Chuan da zhe re qing   shan shuo yao yan    Find Your Soul

shan shuo yao yan    Find Your Soul

Gen wo yi qi    Find Your Soul

 

Wo yao    zai ci fei teng ni xin tiao

Wo yao    dai ni qu yao yuen di fang

Yi qi    xun zhao wu jia de bao zang

 

Run wild with the fire burning in our hearts

Fly high on the passion, it’s time we start

No one, nothing could ever beat my style

Xian zai jiu yao    Find Your Soul

 

Bei wo xi yin    ni kao guo lai   bu shi ma?

Ni de xin zang    tiao dao kuai za    bu shi ma?

Yao yuen ju li    shan zhe guang mang    Like a star

Shan shuo yao yan    Find Your Soul

 

Get it Get it    jia duo dian qiang lie   gan jue    kuai fei teng ban re lie

Dai ni qu na yi wang de di fang    gen jing wo ba   Find Your Soul

Take it Take it    jing jing zhua zhai shou shang    jue dui   bu hui fang kai xi wang

Zhuang man zi xing jiu qi pao ba    gen wo yi qi    Find Your Soul

Gen wo yi qi    Find Your Soul

Gen wo yi qi    Find Your Soul

 

 

 

Pinyin by : FrazerNg

As requested by VedaSONE ;)

 

 

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Gossip Girls  ....... Mess is the only word to describe it

Need a few more listens to be used to it like IGAB.... Be patient

IDK I might have a peculiar taste in music so yeah

Edited December 1, 2013 by FrazerNg

[Honey1]

So I just realized the outrageous fact that there isn't a YoonSic badge. Anyone interested? i know you are if not look at the airport pics

I'm here for that

 

Mess!

No. It's gonna be their best release this year

[Lenalee]

Gossip Girls a mess ????? O__O I love the snippet xD

[FrazerNg]

Gossip Girls a mess ????? O__O I love the snippet xD

 

Neh I'm not a fan of electronic music so it doesn't really sound nice to me :/ especially on the first listen

 

This is one of those songs that I need to put it on repeat to get myself used to it.... then maybe I'll fall in love with it like what I did with IGAB and SHINEE's Everybody lol

[mikiangel]

Neh I'm not a fan of electronic music so it doesn't really sound nice to me :/ especially on the first listen

 

This is one of those songs that I need to put it on repeat to get myself used to it.... then maybe I'll fall in love with it like what I did with IGAB and SHINEE's Everybody lol

Me too, that`s why for now it sound like a mess.

 

Yoona for Sheen

[icesica]

Trouble in Thailand: (Reuters) - About 30,000 protesters launched a "people's coup" on Thailand's government on Sunday, swarming state agencies in violent clashes, taking control of a state broadcaster and forcing the prime minister to flee a police compound.

 

Thai SONE's, do you think this can escalate to cancel the concert next month?

[wujuwuju]

Hi everyone! idk if I already posted here before but I sure do lurk here as often as I can.  

anyway, idk if anyone has posted this already, but just in case no one did yet, here's episode 10 part 2 of Grandpas over Flowers with Sunny (english-subbed):

 

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x17utw9_eng-sub-130906-grandpas-over-flowers-ep-10-sunny-cut-pt-2-3_travel

 

and here's the download link: https://mega.co.nz/#!wJ92UBAD!SQeJyHvmhbxkjrkhH3x0YT5ztmhX_glHVXv1lV8zjtc

 

 

[Bizcotti]

Ya Gossip Girls wasnt sounding very pleasing imo. Reminds me of a lot of SM hot mess album filler songs.

[pretty_angel92]

snsd - gossip girls (가십 걸스) (japan 3rd album song #1) (radio premiere record preview)

http://cfile26.uf.tistory.com/media/2170543B529B63191905A6

i wasn't expecting this at all, tbh =S

but it might grow on me..it's catchy, so...

[MoshiMoshi]

Gossip Girls a mess ????? O__O I love the snippet xD

 

It's okay Lena, I like it too ^-^ (so far at least)

 

 

This gives me hope for the rest of the unheard tracks

[Messica]

haha im really sorry about this, but do i know you? haha did you have a different name before?

oh yes sorry. You probably know me from akp as GG.BRO JunHyo. But here I changed my name from Bringthesnacksout to blessica. I noticed that you haven't been around since like september

[silverlining]

This should have been what the 2nd Japanese album should have sounded like along with Flower Power, Paparazzi, Animal, Reflection, All My Love Is For You, Galaxy Supernova etc.

True.

 

It's okay Lena, I like it too ^-^ (so far at least)

 

 

This gives me hope for the rest of the unheard tracks

me too, since I'm more into electronic music. I hope the rest of the unheard tracks are more like GS and GG.