♥ Right Now, Tomorrow, Forever, 소녀시대 ♥ The Official Girls' Generation (SNSD) Thread

[Taeyeon]

fany w/ henry

 

[VT Evil Queen]

Da legs

 

Why is she so flawless #SooYoung2013

[xGeRoX]

http://sports.donga.com/3/all/20131027/58497730/3

article saying exo might comeback november....

tvxq december??

that means no space for snsd, since december is their japan promotion..

unless tvxq have no comeback, maybe just a fan meeting to celebrate 10 yrs anniversary??

but that's cuttin it close, with end of the year awards/performances, etc... i'd rather snsd just wait again until january when all of their japan album promo is finished -_-

short break and then japan tour??

[Lenalee]

 

 

omahgahh
I love your SIG. I think Tiffany and seohyun matured the best in snsd.

 

Thanks

Edited October 28, 2013 by Lenalee

[Documentary]

its not about that Tiffany should never sing. She should just not sing songs that are way above her comfort range. The thing about Jessica and Taeyeon is that they usually sing within their comfort range. I would not have said the same if Tiffany sang a song within her comfort range or at least within that relative area. I don't care if you criticize my bias. If you've been in the fandom long enough, Jessica was actually the punching bag within the fandom. There's nothing wrong with criticizing the members of your Stan group. No one is hating or bashing Tiffany, NO ONE HERE HATES TIFFANY.

 

IM BEING SERIOUS HERE, I WAS NOT BEING TRANSPARENT AT ALL. You got to see the logical reasons behind that post than just putting on your defend my bias mode. As for hyoyeon, you can't decide on the difficulty of a visual career, where as in a vocal career it is much the other way. Also, no one would join you because hyoyeon barely gets promoted, and its a nice change that all sones would like to see.

 

 

Blah, blah, blah, excuses , excuses, excuses. Yawn! You know why many are having the same opinion as me? because

they are tired of comments like yours . The hate exist, but is disguise as personal opinions and "constructive criticism". 

 

 

So nice, taking my words out of context. My comment about Hyoyeon was an assumption of what would have happen

 

 

IF I had written comments alike the ones you and many in here like to write about Tiffany, and you prove my point

with this:

 

"Also, no one would join you because Hyoyeon barely gets promoted, and its a nice change that all sones would like to see."

 

 Hyoyeon and the rest are supported , they don't receive comments like this: "should have went to Jessica or Taeyeon", "she

is attention whore"  ,or  "she shouldn't be in the middle, she can't dance".  

[Midnight-Jewel]

http://sports.donga.com/3/all/20131027/58497730/3

article saying exo might comeback november....

tvxq december??

that means no space for snsd, since december is their japan promotion..

unless tvxq have no comeback, maybe just a fan meeting to celebrate 10 yrs anniversary??

but that's cuttin it close, with end of the year awards/performances, etc... i'd rather snsd just wait again until january when all of their japan album promo is finished -_-

short break and then japan tour??

 

i agree, let them have some rest 

 

feeling like crying alrdy   but soshi, hwaitingggg!!

[Lenalee]

 

>.<

[Han한]

 

taeyeon_ss: 으으 살랴주세요  http://instagram.com/p/f_VBBfn_pj

[trans] eu eu please save me

cr: ch0sshi

 

 

Will nobody save Taeyeon's earbud?????? Fine.... just me then.... *put's spandex underwear on*

[김민주]

http://sports.donga.com/3/all/20131027/58497730/3

article saying exo might comeback november....

tvxq december??

that means no space for snsd, since december is their japan promotion..

unless tvxq have no comeback, maybe just a fan meeting to celebrate 10 yrs anniversary??

but that's cuttin it close, with end of the year awards/performances, etc... i'd rather snsd just wait again until january when all of their japan album promo is finished -_-

short break and then japan tour??

 

That doesn't mean TTS or SNSD isn't coming back. TTS came back around the same time EXO debuted last year. If anything I think it more or less confirms it's TTS that is coming back and not SNSD as a whole

[xGeRoX]

That doesn't mean TTS or SNSD isn't coming back. TTS came back around the same time EXO debuted last year. If anything I think it more or less confirms it's TTS that is coming back and not SNSD as a whole

 

yep..then tts is more likely...

[Carlos]

"No one hates tiffany" such a bullshit. People just make another excuse on "why tiffany should be criticized" and "why other member doesn't need to be criticized" and playing pity/victim card to another member. Tiffany fans doesn't need your excuse, we just want soo stalled sone stop nitpicking EVERY single activity from tiffany and let fanytastic enjoy their moment without somebody trying ruin the mood.

 

We are getting tired of this, is okay if you guys say "we love tiffany, we just give her constructive critism", but why every single time people need to mock tiffany? When duet lost in love, she getting blame for ruined the song/not match with taeyeon skill. When she on fire, people say she is attention whore, when she tone down, people call her unprofessional. When she speak English, people say she want hogging the spotlight. When she doesn't give autograph, people bitching. And many moooooooorrreeeee...!! Tell me if there are more member is more often being critized beside tiffany??

 

Not only that, people dont just stop low in critized tiffany, but compare her to another member and saying how other member are better than her. Let's be honest here, how often you see OH user bitching about tiffany and how other member should doing thing instead tiffany? Not to mention about people bitching about SM is bias to taeny, when there are others member gets more spotlight than taeny. The funny is when other members got spotlight her fans bragging by using hashtag, or "when u fav", or "I proud..", or "slayed" etc. and sone supportive to that member. But when come to tiffany people bitch and say other member should doing instead. If people still insist that no one hate tiffany, I just say that people being unfair with her.

 

Tiffany is not my bias, but taeyeon. But for me, Tiffany is one of the most improving member. I still remember how I critized tiffany on how bad her singing technique, stif dancing, unpleasant behaviour. Not to mention about her language barrier. But look at tiffany now!!! How she improve in singing, dancing wise. And she grow to be beautifull and sweetheart. By this improvement, SHE DESERVED THE SPOTLIGHT.

[Lenalee]

Tiffany will feature in the movie's ost that henry helped compose

http://news.nate.com/view/20131028n06998

 

Yayyy

 

edit : Ch0sshi trans

[TRANS]  in this interview with SJ-M’s Henry regarding the film ‘Final Recipe’, it was mentioned that the movie’s ending OST “is a song composed and sung by Henry, with Girls’ Generation’s Tiffany featuring in it.â€

Edited October 28, 2013 by Lenalee

[HyperionZ]

Blah, blah, blah, excuses , excuses, excuses. Yawn! You know why many are having the same opinion as me? because

they are tired of comments like yours . The hate exist, but is disguise as personal opinions and "constructive criticism". 

 

 

So nice, taking my words out of context. My comment about Hyoyeon was an assumption of what would have happen

 

 

IF I had written comments alike the ones you and many in here like to write about Tiffany, and you prove my point

with this:

 

"Also, no one would join you because Hyoyeon barely gets promoted, and its a nice change that all sones would like to see."

 

 Hyoyeon and the rest are supported , they don't receive comments like this: "should have went to Jessica or Taeyeon", "she

is attention whore"  ,or  "she shouldn't be in the middle, she can't dance".

 

Bringthesnacksout comments about Tiffany singing that type of song I don't have a problem with which is why I made agreed on some points with him. But I also agree with you Documentary that Tiffany does tend to get the "should have been given <insert another members name>" or "I would like to see <insert member's name> do this instead of Tiffany." comments more often than I see it with any other member, whether on here or on just random comments online.

 

The most common one is Tiffany doing interviews in English and someone suggests Jessica should do the interview instead. I remember seeing this happen in 2009 and continues on just recently with her interviews with Tom Hiddleston and Brad Pitt interviews. It is more just a few people saying these types of comments, but you rarely see this happen to other members when another member does a solo activity.

 

Lenalee is right in that for the most part, Tiffany fans haven't really voiced themselves with this issue because its still a minor issue in some ways, but it also irks me as a Tiffany fan to see a few fans say this about Tiffany. Just because Tiffany is extremely outgoing and works on a lot of things should not affect what other members get solo wise.

[Han한]

Tiffany will feature in the movie's ost that henry helped compose

http://news.nate.com/view/20131028n06998

 

But but but but It should be Taeyeon or Jessica or Yoona or Sunny or Hyoyeon or Seohyun or Yuri or Sooyoung tbh....   

 

 

 

 

Sorry!!!!!!! Couldn't resist....   

 

 

 

Seriously though, I wish we could just enjoy some butt wiggling and stop all the arguing. 

 

 

[seomate119]

[s4a]

"No one hates tiffany" such a bullshit. People just make another excuse on "why tiffany should be criticized" and "why other member doesn't need to be criticized" and playing pity/victim card to another member. Tiffany fans doesn't need your excuse, we just want soo stalled sone stop nitpicking EVERY single activity from tiffany and let fanytastic enjoy their moment without somebody trying ruin the mood.

 

We are getting tired of this, is okay if you guys say "we love tiffany, we just give her constructive critism", but why every single time people need to mock tiffany? When duet lost in love, she getting blame for ruined the song/not match with taeyeon skill. When she on fire, people say she is attention whore, when she tone down, people call her unprofessional. When she speak English, people say she want hogging the spotlight. When she doesn't give autograph, people bitching. And many moooooooorrreeeee...!! Tell me if there are more member is more often being critized beside tiffany??

 

Not only that, people dont just stop low in critized tiffany, but compare her to another member and saying how other member are better than her. Let's be honest here, how often you see OH user bitching about tiffany and how other member should doing thing instead tiffany? Not to mention about people bitching about SM is bias to taeny, when there are others member gets more spotlight than taeny. The funny is when other members got spotlight her fans bragging by using hashtag, or "when u fav", or "I proud..", or "slayed" etc. and sone supportive to that member. But when come to tiffany people bitch and say other member should doing instead. If people still insist that no one hate tiffany, I just say that people being unfair with her.

 

Tiffany is not my bias, but taeyeon. But for me, Tiffany is one of the most improving member. I still remember how I critized tiffany on how bad her singing technique, stif dancing, unpleasant behaviour. Not to mention about her language barrier. But look at tiffany now!!! How she improve in singing, dancing wise. And she grow to be beautifull and sweetheart. By this improvement, SHE DESERVED THE SPOTLIGHT.

 

Outside of Seobaby (who everyone protects) and Yuri/Sunny (who, frankly, is ignored in the fandom outside of talking about their body parts or shipping which explains their lesser criticism), every single member of SNSD receives more criticism overall than Tiffany. Every single one.

 

I'm sorry but you should feel fortunate that those are the major criticisms she gets outside of the botox comments. Try dealing with your ultimate bias being called an ogre within the fandom for years. Try having your bias being called anorexic in the comments of every article written about her. Try having your bias completely ignored to the point where she was nominated for a musical award and none of the sources knew. Try having your bias called a robot (endearingly, but still). Try having your bias ignored unless talking about her hips or her dead ship.

 

Tiffany does get some unfair criticism at times but to call her the most hated on member is silly. Not even close. Every member has to deal with criticism, both within and outside of the fandom.

[Lenalee]

But but but but It should be Taeyeon or Jessica or Yoona or Sunny or Hyoyeon or Seohyun or Yuri or Sooyoung tbh....   

 

 

 

Sorry!!!!!!! Couldn't resist....   

 

 

 

Seriously though, I wish we could just enjoy some butt wiggling and stop all the arguing. 

 

 

Yah >.<  ^__^

 

[MoshiMoshi]

Tiffany will feature in the movie's ost that henry helped compose

http://news.nate.com/view/20131028n06998

 

Yayyy

 

Ohh are they doing a duet or is she just singing a song he wrote? Either way 

[Seditary]

Yuri/Sunny (who, frankly, is ignored in the fandom outside of talking about their body parts or shipping which explains their lesser criticism)

 

90% of comments I read about my bias are about her hair.

8% about her breasts.

2% about stuff she actually does.

Edited October 28, 2013 by Seditary

[Lenalee]

Ohh are they doing a duet or is she just singing a song he wrote? Either way 

  I edited my post with Ch0sshi trans ;) "is a song composed and sung by Henry, with Girls’ Generation’s Tiffany featuring in it.â€"

[Carlos]

Jessica fans are being the worst tbh.

 

Stop honeys.

Agree with you, you will often see if there is a thread or discussion which give negative remark about tiffany, you will see someone who praise jessica or played victim card. The common phrase that i know is such as "why not jessica", "should it jessica","tiffany is not only English speaker in SNSD", "jessica is losing her place as 2nd main vocalist", "why jessica get less line, she is 2nd best vocalist".nagging on how tiffany get more lines than jessica (and people forget that in IGAB, the boys, paparazzi, love&girls, jessica get more lines than tiffany) you will never seen people bitching when seohyun, sunny, sooyoung get more lines, only tiffany.

 

And don't forget about constant bashing on taeny, and constant blame for taeyeon in taengsic thread. Is not surprise if taenganger and fanytastic will start to piss of with gorjess spazzer.

 

Poor taeyeon and tiffany, I'm surprised when taeyeon ignored jessica, people say taeyeon is rude and worst leader, but when SNSD member bullied tiffany or when jessica being kick and punch other member, sone call it cute. Sone often say that tiffany the most often get bullied (even playful bullied) by other members, but nobody care or getting rage. When come to taengsic, photo, gif, and fan account in enough for gorjess spazzer to call taeyeon rude.

[MoshiMoshi]

  I edited my post with Ch0sshi trans ;) "is a song composed and sung by Henry, with Girls’ Generation’s Tiffany featuring in it.â€"

 

Ohh I'm excited! Loved their duet at SMTown so it should be really good!

[dmn]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ku3U7aGWQgo&feature=youtu.be

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xn-D0fz47Fg&feature=youtu.be

 

amztt posted another 2 clips from the Japanese morning shows:

 

(obviously more of the same, but always good to see that it was covered on lots of channels and SNSD got much exposure)

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxRQBUs4FXU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKXgatYmYns

[FrazerNg]

Jessica fans are being the worst tbh.

 

Stop honeys.

So true

And I'm ashamed as one of the Maomaos >____<

[Carlos]

You right about that and I agree at most part. And tbh, all members w/o exception had their own share of hate inside or outside of SNSD fandom. But from what I see over the years, the share of hate for some members just sad and just ridiculous. For example, since we still in the topic about tiffany, the most sad part about her case is some of the most harsh comment coming from inside the fandom and how people trying to bringing her down by using another members to make her look worse. Doesn't it sad? Yes all members had at least some "haters" from the other members fans. But if you really honest with yourselves, then you will see the big differences how tiffany got her "haters" rather than another members (i think along with yoona where she got hated just because she is SNSD's face, so what if she got that role???). There's a big differences between being hated by another fandom and being hated by another members stans. I don't know if I make sense right know, but my point is tiffany being "the fandom's punching bag" for years and lately just got worse, it's not easy for us as tiffany's stand and for us (me especially) as OT9 fans where I can see how some members get used to insult another girls.

 

Sad but true, if sone itself can't be supportive for tiffany, heck who will defend him? Outside fandom? The worst part is actually lot of people outside fandom likes tiffany, but because so called "sone" start bitching about tiffany and make some negative thread about tiffany, people outside fandom who maybe actually love tiffany is misunderstood and start to see tiffany in negative light. About autograft, shouting on IGAB, and lazy things is the best example.