Catlixle 4,066 Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 they can go making money by touring in south east asia... there's a demand in everywhere they can start from hongkong taiwan vietnam thailand philippines malaysia singapore brunei and the last stop is indonesia... i mean ikon got tour but why not winner? it can buzz their international popularity but yg seems like hate them so much blah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ΔΔΔ 91 Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 YG likes hep hop not Winner type of music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Am@r@ 2,620 Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 they can go making money by touring in south east asia... there's a demand in everywhere they can start from hongkong taiwan vietnam thailand philippines malaysia singapore brunei and the last stop is indonesia... i mean ikon got tour but why not winner? it can buzz their international popularity but yg seems like hate them so much blah Cuz YG is just plain dumb or get his head blocked. WINNER should do SEA, China, HK, Taiwan tours when they debut during 2014 or 2015. But what YG know other than showing himself in TVs, articles????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaTheSlayQueen 76 Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 They are too rebellious for YHS, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winaitip 1,456 Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 they can't cos Yang Hyun Suck wanna sabotage them so bad. #GiveUsMoreWinnerExposure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowflakes 279 Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 YG seems to hate his newer groups so yeah... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaboWasseo✩ 25,468 Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 YG is trash #Seungri4CEO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlkpopfan 2,451 Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 If it doesn't fit into YGs narrow idea of what music is then he's not interested in giving it his full support. It's the reason why there is such a lack of diversity in the music that he has a hand in. Winner doesn't follow the typical sound and look of YG so he doesn't know what to do with them, he's unwilling to let them work with outside producers for a different sound, and he has no idea how to market them and mold them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kobayashi.s 1,205 Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 Like they can make any money there Even established groups don't go there much. SEA fans are no where near as rich and willing to spend money on concerts like Japan or China fans , if you charge too much they won't go and if you charge cheap then you won't make any profit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odd_walls 1,024 Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 They have a lot of fans in Indonesia..... there are so many Winner's Indonesia fanpage account on Instagram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#!nasigoreng 553 Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 they can go making money by touring in south east asia... there's a demand in everywhere they can start from hongkong taiwan vietnam thailand philippines malaysia singapore brunei and the last stop is indonesia... i mean ikon got tour but why not winner? it can buzz their international popularity but yg seems like hate them so much blah YG likes hep hop not Winner type of music ^ well, unlike JYP right now that based on certain 10 panelist to decide 5W+1H, YHS still have 95% voice to decide who to do what, comeback, songs, etc... in the first time WIN aired, YHS really fall in love with team where B.I. is there because he see G-Dragon's potential in him, he doesnt really like WINNER for the real winner of WIN (Who is Next), and to make sure that his decision's is right, he makes IKON through many survivals...yet he bring winner down to dungeon after empty's huge successs. (empty is compossed and lyrics by B.I. Correct me if im wrong), SO.. HE still subjective to manage his artist... you can hate me for my opinions, but thats only my opinions, i dont really know what inside YG's tho... They have a lot of fans in Indonesia..... there are so many Winner's Indonesia fanpage account on Instagram ^ true their music's is Indonesian's taste Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotYou 2,024 Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 yeah SEA might not be that "profitable" but I think i'd still be a good way to get them out there, and at least they would have more behind the scenes content to show and videos and stuff for fans. Now what i don't get is HOW on earth winner wasn't shipped off the china the moment yg first saw that crowd when they came for happy camp and their weibo popularity....that i don't get . i know there might be a ban so we'll have to see, but yg needs to get on that ASAP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inkxwin 68 Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 I've always felt YG doesn't want Winner to reach their full potential. They could have been much bigger now if only they got decent promotions. Winner was created by fans and his egoistic self is hurting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fate(s)fly 1,154 Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 He must be in love with one of the members (pre-martial YG pun) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kreamer 1,536 Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 well, unlike JYP right now that based on certain 10 panelist to decide 5W+1H, YHS still have 95% voice to decide who to do what, comeback, songs, etc... in the first time WIN aired, YHS really fall in love with team where B.I. is there because he see G-Dragon's potential in him, he doesnt really like WINNER for the real winner of WIN (Who is Next), and to make sure that his decision's is right, he makes IKON through many survivals...yet he bring winner down to dungeon after empty's huge successs. (empty is compossed and lyrics by B.I. Correct me if im wrong), 'fall in love' is a little bit exagerrated, don't you think? but then he cannot help it I guess,the boys are so loveable . How I wish for once whenever a thread like this was made to drag yg for so many wrongdoings he did to winner which I agree and support btw, can you guys keep ikon out of the thread like don't mention them at all,please? it's getting tiring.Win is like ages ago. and yes winner is more than capable of having their own tour, i totally agree with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
day traveler 3,033 Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 Honestly tho, he's allergic in a full-scale domestic promotion but he could have given winner a short promo last year then ship them to whichever country they can go to instead of putting them on dungeon. And he could have made them promote in China last year for many months to secure their chinese fans knowing that their already at top 20 in baidu bar and moved up to top 10 near before/during exit:e. And now he's still doing the same shts idk It's the same to other yg artists, they could have done MORE things while waiting for their turn in releasing an album instead of making them rot in dungeon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foodielove 3,742 Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 WINNER could have had their China Tour right off debut cuz their Chinese fandom is really big. But well Yang Hyun Suk didn't even give them a chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aster Trap 3,358 Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 because YG doesn't want to make it happened? clearly Winner aren't include in his priority list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexyann 511 Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 because YG doesn't want to make it happened? clearly Winner aren't include in his priority list Pretty much this. Because there's absolutely no logic at all as to why WINNER haven't been promoting & touring in SEA countries and most importantly China when they're so popular there. I mean look at their fancafe numbers & the commotion there is every time they go to China. But now there's the ban and touring China isn't even a possibility anymore. BB, iKON & now Lee Hi are touring Asia, and YG is still 'WINNER who ?!' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish 4,931 Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 If it doesn't fit into YGs narrow idea of what music is then he's not interested in giving it his full support. It's the reason why there is such a lack of diversity in the music that he has a hand in. Winner doesn't follow the typical sound and look of YG so he doesn't know what to do with them, he's unwilling to let them work with outside producers for a different sound, and he has no idea how to market them and mold them. Basically Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tropicamong 24,752 Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Because he doesn't care about winner as much and it sucks. Winner has so much potential Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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