TheOfficialPimpwife 3,124 Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 can change their style of music and image and still become so successful. 2ne1 did and they failed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CANCAN 124 Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Eh, not sure if I agree haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAE-RANG 1,386 Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 YES INDEED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustCallMeDaisyy 2,584 Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simmi 208 Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 When you have blinded fans. Ofcourse success is guaranteed. Tho that 2ne1 reference was unnecessary, I'm glad they failed. Failed as in you peoples dictionary. Makes me even more proud being a blackjack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonFury 3,019 Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 2NE1's failures this year have less to do with the change in style and more with YGE's management being a bunch of incompetent toss pots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shavon Jovi 219 Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 T-ara before scandal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimchi 19,921 Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Lonely and IATB where different styles, both very successful songs... your argument is invalid. Negged for telling the truth, DYLM and FIL didn't do well simply because the songs were bad, not because of the style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sane 16,342 Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Lots of successful groups do that though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeyonChaé 47 Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 but to me, BIGBANG's recent songs are trash. same could be said to SNSD. I think the majority of us here agrees to this. The only thing that makes this groups successful till now are the fact that they have a huge loyal followers since their debut .... which 2NE1 obviously lacks because of how bad they are being promoted. Don't get me wrong. DYLM and FIL are shitty to me too compared to their past releases. Missing You is could be a snore fest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheese2 3,241 Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 seems like it, they do have huge fanbases. maybe super junior too? and i don't think 2ne1's previous two songs not doing well had to do so much with change in music styles but with the baddest female compared to the likes of don't cry and lonely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tzuyoncé 633 Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 wg before, well you know.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CALICO CAT 8,999 Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Lots of successful groups do that though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athena 21,718 Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Yeah but those change in styles for Big Bang and SNSD weren't considered one of their best releases by most people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shavon Jovi 219 Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Yeah but those change in styles for Big Bang and SNSD weren't considered one of their best releases by most people. #5 on times Magazine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Come Back Sand Unplugged 1,042 Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 2ne1 doesn't have a bad song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TidalWave234 427 Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 but to me, BIGBANG's recent songs are trash. same could be said to SNSD. I think the majority of us here agrees to this. Pretty sure the majority of people enjoyed bigbang's recent releases. Still alive was one of the best albums last yr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athena 21,718 Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 #5 on times Magazine. Your point is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toshi 1,466 Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 2NE1's failures this year have less to do with the change in style and more with YGE's management being a bunch of incompetent toss pots. 2ne1 doesn't have a bad song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
breal 462 Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 I think it's far, far simpler than that. Style plays only a small role in it. For the majority of people it's simply like this: if lots of people like a song/MV, you'll see it in the (digital) sales results and the YT views (if the majority don't think a song/MV is catchy or addictive, they won't revisit after the 1st time). If only a few people like a song/MV, you'll see it too in the sales figures and YT views, esp when compared with other songs of the same group. So, a majority of people liked SNSD's IGAB, BB's Fantastic Baby, GD's Crooked, EXO's Growl and 2NE1's Missing You while far less people liked CL's TBF or 2NE1's DYLM. It's really that simple for the majority of people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rophie 968 Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 Your point is? It may not be considered one of their "best" but they still achieved a lot of recognition and success for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeong jaehyuns boyfriend 10,627 Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 2ne1 this year was kind of promoted like f(x) lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
breal 462 Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 2ne1 this year was kind of promoted like f(x) lol 2NE1 had 3 comebacks, added to that CL's solo debut and Bom/Lee Hi's duet. They were even a lot more in shows than with former comebacks. That's more than a lot of other top groups had this year in terms of promotion and presence (comebacks) in SK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrifeRaider 4,103 Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 2NE1 wanted to do a feminine comeback this time around but it didn't go so well as there past comeback because of just a simple fact. They had a powerful image as a group who did things a little bit different and whit these comeback they just did as all the other groups did feminine and stuff. I loved there comebacks while most didn't esp. DYLM whit that M/V tied to it, it felled really more closer to it then there high value production type of M/Vs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athena 21,718 Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 I think it's far, far simpler than that. Style plays only a small role in it. For the majority of people it's simply like this: if lots of people like a song/MV, you'll see it in the (digital) sales results and the YT views (if the majority don't think a song/MV is catchy or addictive, they won't revisit after the 1st time). If only a few people like a song/MV, you'll see it too in the sales figures and YT views, esp when compared with other songs of the same group. So, a majority of people liked SNSD's IGAB, BB's Fantastic Baby, GD's Crooked, EXO's Growl and 2NE1's Missing You while far less people liked CL's TBF or 2NE1's DYLM. It's really that simple for the majority of people. You can't really use that though. There are alot of exceptions to that "rule". Gangnam Style and Gentlemen are examples. High digitals and high Youtube views doesn't necessarily mean that most people liked it. 2NE1 had 3 comebacks, added to that CL's solo debut and Bom/Lee Hi's duet. They were even a lot more in shows than with former comebacks. That's more than a lot of other top groups had this year in terms of promotion and presence (comebacks) in SK. Just because they had more comebacks doesn't mean they were promoted well. YG promoted them horribly this year, and used too much mediaplay that turned people off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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