why do people still call bts a "tryhard" hip hop group as an insult?

[ethereal]

like, really. does any group that focuses more on rap get that title? i mean, most of their recent concepts and songs aren't even slightly related to the "bad boy" "hep hop" concept, and they've said with their own mouths that they don't even consider themselves a hip hop group. is "they're a tryhard group" literally the only insult that can be thought of?

 

idk, it doesn't usually bug me, but i've just come across a lot of pretentious haters personally recently and i just honestly don't understand them. bts is somehow below other groups because they're "tryhard", which they kind of aren't anymore? what even defines "tryhard"? i just honest to god don't understand. 

 

 

 

[glow]

every korean hip hop inspired group is called tryhard at some point, it's not just a bts thing

[Dilemmax]

I don't consider them as tryhard but i consider certain groups with hip-hop concept as one.

[Nini Bear]

why do you even pay attention to such people. let them talk. it won't change the fact that they're fairly succesful.

[acire]

idk i guess they were a little try-hard during their debut era bc that was admittedly pretty hep hap but they've clearly grown out of that phase so the insult's pretty stale. unfortunately it seems antis can't come up with anything better.

[Lugoose]

isn't like every kpop group a tryhard hip hop group at some point tho

[PsychoLotus]

I'm tryna to figure that shit out to...maybe it's just not their style? Like some people hate on cute concepts because it's not their style but why even say anything if you don't like it?

[YNRA]

its cause they think theyre sweg sweg 

 

i mean its not because rap, people dont call tablo tryhard. its because of their lyrics and style. 

 

 

for bts particularly i remember i was listening to one of their songs a few yrs ago and they were like "westside!!" like bitch stfu youre from korea not the west coast 

[Serendipity]

idgi either. but i've been finding that many of the people who say hateful or insulting things about a group, don't even know the first thing about them.

[vocalmonster]

I dont get it either

[MelanatedBeauty]

they call big bang tryhards too...so...really yall should just post gifs like these in reply

 

[!SpammeR!]

obviously they don't like them !!! just don't mind them !

[totek]

They are not like that anymore but the way they used to dress during their debut was pretty bad especially Rap Monster's hair

and also this

 

[tkc123]

idk. I'm not a fan but

 

'I need u' never came across as hip hop nor did dope

 

I see people hate on groups for being try hard, I see others hate on groups for being cutesy/basic. We can't win

[ImRight]

I wish you'd just state your point without all the feigned ignorance, hunty.

You know what people mean by try hard, you just don't take it as a negative thing. And you also think that BTS are amazing and fuck da haters. We got it.

[Owlsarecool15]

its cause they think theyre sweg sweg 

 

i mean its not because rap, people dont call tablo tryhard. its because of their lyrics and style. 

 

 

for bts particularly i remember i was listening to one of their songs a few yrs ago and they were like "westside!!" like bitch stfu youre from korea not the west coast 

 

I know what song you are talking about. It is If I Ruled The World.

 

Anyways, I think it all depends on what someone considers tryhard.

[RACIE]

What's with that "try hard" thing? Shouldn't all group "try hard" to make good music? Like really, if you want to succeed in life, you should definitely try hard you know. And let's say that BTS are "try hards". At least they succeed on their goal of making some good music which are definitely very inspiring for the youth. There's no easy way in life. And I praise them for trying real hard because only courageous and strong-willed people do that.

[angy]

Usually people call a hip hop group a try-harder when they... well, don't have that natural "swaggy" and strong aura that most western artists have (or at least seem to have   ). So they have to rely on hairstyles, fashion, lyrics, etc.

They were a bit on their early stages, but now they are okay imo 

[ToriTore]

Are they still hip-hop? They seem to become more inclusive of many more pop inclined genres

[stranger101]

They probably just listen to bts in random without knowing what their music is all about.

[yeripped]

They're cool now but from their debut up to their War of Hormone days they were a bunch of hood wannabes

[GalaxunnieSuperOppa]

Just ignore the haters

[Ihavepopcorn]

its cause they think theyre sweg sweg 

 

i mean its not because rap, people dont call tablo tryhard. its because of their lyrics and style. 

 

 

for bts particularly i remember i was listening to one of their songs a few yrs ago and they were like "westside!!" like bitch stfu youre from korea not the west coast 

Yeah that was pretty stupid. At least he get's that now.

 

Q: You shouted, “Westside Till I Die†during ‘If I Ruled The World’.

RM: That’s well. I was really wrong then (laughter). After the album came out and I listened to it, I thought “Ahâ€. I think I was immersed in the emotions while recording and ended up shouting like that.

Q: What’s the specific reason why you feel you were wrong?

RM: First off, I didn’t even live in the ‘west side’… And even if that song had a G-Funk sound, what I shouted wasn’t the way to respect the west coast hip-hop musicians. I believe there are many meanings inside the words “Westside Till I Dieâ€. Sweat, struggles, pride, etc. Isn’t it a phrase that compressed all these factors of life.

Q: Are you saying that you overlooked the weight and complex undertones that the phrase has within hip-hop?

RM: That’s right. I believe it’s different from words like “Yo!†or “Check It!â€. As a result, I was thoughtless.

Q: Are you admitting it to be a mistake?

RM: Further than a mistake, it was a wrong. I have nothing to say.

[saffy]

its cause they think theyre sweg sweg

 

i mean its not because rap, people dont call tablo tryhard. its because of their lyrics and style.

 

 

for bts particularly i remember i was listening to one of their songs a few yrs ago and they were like "westside!!" like bitch stfu youre from korea not the west coast

Got ninjaed.

 

 

 

 

Not for you specifically but have the gut to admit their mistakes definitely not a try hard moves.

[Smile Hoya]

its cause they think theyre sweg sweg 

 

i mean its not because rap, people dont call tablo tryhard. its because of their lyrics and style. 

 

 

for bts particularly i remember i was listening to one of their songs a few yrs ago and they were like "westside!!" like bitch stfu youre from korea not the west coast 

 

That was literally 2013 and...

 

Q: You shouted, “Westside Till I Die†during 'If I Ruled The World’.

RM: That’s well. I was really wrong then (laughter). After the album came out and I listened to it, I thought “Ahâ€. I think I was immersed in the emotions while recording and ended up shouting like that.

Q: What’s the specific reason why you feel you were wrong?

RM: First off, I didn’t even live in the 'west side’… And even if that song had a G-Funk sound, what I shouted wasn’t the way to respect the west coast hip-hop musicians. I believe there are many meanings inside the words “Westside Till I Dieâ€. Sweat, struggles, pride, etc. Isn’t it a phrase that compressed all these factors of life.

Q: Are you saying that you overlooked the weight and complex undertones that the phrase has within hip-hop?

RM: That’s right. I believe it’s different from words like “Yo!†or “Check It!â€. As a result, I was thoughtless.

Q: Are you admitting it to be a mistake?

RM: Further than a mistake, it was a wrong. I have nothing to say.

[iNTERVIEW] 150324 - Hiphopplaya - Rap Monster: â€˜Even if it’s to say bad things, I really hope you would listen to the mixtape’

 

He agrees with you.

 

Edit: Ninja'd