Konjo 2,411 Posted November 5, 2016 Author Share Posted November 5, 2016 Btw, there's a huge protest happening in S.Korea with over 200,000 people out on the streets of Seoul! Crazy how some things in this drama, relates to reality. Click here to view the Tweet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konjo 2,411 Posted November 5, 2016 Author Share Posted November 5, 2016 Netizen comments! Click here to view the Tweet Click here to view the Tweet 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konjo 2,411 Posted November 5, 2016 Author Share Posted November 5, 2016 EPISODE 15 TEXT PREVIEW! (I haven't read it, because I don't want spoilers for the last 2 episodes) Click here to view the Tweet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNNIE 15,249 Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 So that's what that creepy old man final attack is. If I can't be president no one can be president. What a joke of a man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hero 899 Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 Yoojin is the only strong character on this show. What a waste by the writer to make her into a standard villain in the end. Also Anna and Jeha have no chemistry. 3 30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flowerlover 484 Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 (edited) Yoojin is the only strong character on this show. What a waste by the writer to make her into a standard villain in the end. Also Anna and Jeha have no chemistry. From the start, Yoo Jin was a standard villain and a typical antagonist character. The writer did not mislead the audience about Yoo Jin's personality or character. Only delusional Yoo Jin's fans thought that she was going to be 'different' and become the 'protagonist/heroine.' Also, all these chemistry talk is annoying and very subjective. As a Ji Chang Wook's fans, I can't wait for this drama to end. I really hope that his next drama does not have these types of intense shipping war. Edited November 5, 2016 by flowerlover 5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNNIE 15,249 Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 Does anyone else have this feeling that the writer shipped off Anna because he/she didn't know what to do with her character progression at all. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flowerlover 484 Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 (edited) Does anyone else have this feeling that the writer shipped off Anna because he/she didn't know what to do with her character progression at all. The writer definitely did a major disservice to Anna's character development, and to certain extent, Jeha's character growth. This drama would have been amazing with a talented screenwriter, such as, Kim Eun-Hee (Signal, Sign, etc...). It had all the right factors of becoming a great drama, but due to the writer lack of skills, the overall drama as become repetitive, boring, and unimaginative. The only thing saving it is the wonderful acting performances from all the main cast and supporting cast members. On a positive side, Yoona, Ji Chang Wook, and Song Yoona are all gaining positive media/public attentions for their acting. I see more incoming opportunities (CFs, dramas, movies etc..) for each of them. Edited November 5, 2016 by flowerlover 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hero 899 Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 (edited) From the start, Yoo Jin was a standard villain and a typical antagonist character. The writer did not mislead the audience about Yoo Jin's personality or character. Only delusional Yoo Jin's fans thought that she was going to be 'different' and become the 'protagonist/heroine.' Also, all these chemistry talk is annoying and very subjective. As a Ji Chang Wook's fans, I can't wait for this drama to end. I really hope that his next drama does not have these types of intense shipping war. Well, its my opinion so of course its subjective. Thats what the word means. The writer has attempted to make CYJ straddle the grey area and hint at a possible twist that reveals she was not the ultimate villain, but in recent episodes has flattened her into a standard villain. Edited November 5, 2016 by Hero 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flowerlover 484 Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 (edited) Well, its my opinion so of course its subjective. Thats what the word means. The writer has attempted to make CYJ straddle the grey area and hint at a possible twist that reveals she was not the ultimate villain, but in recent episodes has flattened her into a standard villain. As we can agree on, interpretation of drama/characters is very subjective. I never felt like the writer straddle CYJ in the grey area. Since the start of drama, Yoo Jin was the ultimate villain. The main point of the writer showing CYJ 's 'humanity' in certain scenes was to show that nobody is born pure evil. Situations and circumstances changes them, but once they start committing evil acts (i.e., child abuse) , they cease to become the victim and are ultimately pure evil/villain. Also, I never understood why some people are against others calling CYJ evil. For me, Yoo Jin and Se-Joon committed child abuse by depriving Anna of a healthy and wonderful childhood/teenage-hood. Anyone that abuse children is a disgusting and evil human being. You can never gain redemption or straddle in the grey area for that sin. Edited November 5, 2016 by flowerlover 10 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mindfulliving 182 Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 (edited) I see Anna as a very strong character. It might appear as a weak character on the outside, but just think about all the pain that she goes through and has to hold in since young age. Even at this stage of the drama, she is still being manipulated by Choi Yoo Jin. Knowing that she cannot win against the evil, she sacrifices herself for the man she loves and also for her other loved ones. It takes a very strong personality psychologically for her to live and continue on the way that she does. She might appear to be powerless and helpless, but at the end of the road, she has the strong-will and courage to overcome her pain and difficulties. She might appear to be vulnerable at times, due to the fact of her still learning about the world, but with time, Anna has the ability to grow into a respected, mature woman. In contrast, YooJin appears to be strong on the outside, but in fact, she is a very insecure, selfish woman. She lacks affection and is hungry for it, as most evident, when Anna calls her "mom" for the first time and when Anna gives Jeha that goodbye kiss. However, I feel that I can't really pity her for her needing affection, because as Jeha puts it, I doubt YooJin has ever truly loved before (whether romantic or any other types of love) she only loves herself and cares nothing but her own pain. She appears to have all the power in the world, but at the end of the road, she is the most helpless person. She thinks that getting power will give her the happiness that she yearns for, but she will soon realize that she has been fighting for nothing at all. I was hoping that Anna would turn "stronger" later on in the drama, but perhaps, this was the intention, to give a contrast between the two female leads. They are complex and pitiful in their own ways. They are both weak and strong. Finally, as I have mentioned before, we might have different opinions about the plots, but the acting and the chemistry among each character in this drama has been flawless. Edited November 6, 2016 by mindfulliving 21 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsj 94 Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 Just as you have a right to ship YJ x JH, and how you find Anna's & Jeha's chemistry lacking; others also have a right to voice why they don't see any romantic chemistry between YJ x JH and how they prefer Anna & Jeha. Anyways, seeing as you're dropping this drama, I guess we won't be seeing you here. I hope you enjoyed the ride. Is this a soft way of asking me to leave this thread? Okay. I tho Onehallyu is a place where anyone can post a comment/thread, but okay. Oh, anyway I dont think I was posting something about the Yoona fans dont have the right to ship her with Je Ha? Idk why you attack me with those kind of comment when infact all of my posts was about JeHa and Yoojin. And never was I say that you all dont have the right to ship her with anyone. And I dont think I need to say anythin anymore, I can see that some dont like it if I post here. Ty for the little chat. 1 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweety You 11,098 Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 tvN Ep 14 Official Cuts tvN, you're a day late 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peaceful World 455 Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 Still cry every time I re-watch JeNa scene in epi 14. Their acting is so on point K2 is still the best drama for me, so far. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mayshy 1,393 Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 so i finally watched ep. 13 and 14 and while I lost some interest in it, ep. 14 brought me back in again. The finale is finally coming next week and I wonder just how everything is going to play out. I really hope there is a happy ending for Jeha and Anna because they have just suffered so much and they deserve some happiness The uncle tho...he really is scarier that his YooJin. He smiles more but he's also really evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A random user 6,763 Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 I haven't seen this being posted and if it was I will delete it: Episode 14 viewvership rating: 4.574 Source: Nielsen Korea Either the hype is lowering or... Btw, there's a huge protest happening in S.Korea with over 200,000 people out on the streets of Seoul! Crazy how some things in this drama, relates to reality. Click here to view the Tweet #choigate effects are getting stonger as time goes by... Anyway, one week to go...I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GODNA 76 Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 (edited) Unpopular opinion coming through so I apologize in advance but here is my 2cents: **Note: I am actually a fan of all 3 main actors, so don't misunderstand me*** Let's begin with the fact that the drama's name is ''The K2''. I thought it would follow the story of this soldier-turned-bodyguard. At the beginning, the writer was on point as we got to know JeHa and sympathized with him and his situation. And dare I say that YJ and Anna could also draw sympathy at different levels. However, as the episodes went on, JeHa did not mature as a character (nor did Anna) until recently: we seldom get to hear his thoughts. I feel that the writer became a bit too mindful of SYA as a Sunbae actress that he gave her character too much importance. It got a bit tiresome because we don't know JeHa or Anna as much as we know Choi YooJin. And that is paradoxal since the drama's name is the K2. YJ is a very interesting, twisted character and I loooove that! I mean we know all about her inner thoughts, constantly learning about how she felt in the past, how she feels in the present, we know her devious mind all too well. She is a villain (she issues kill orders like she orders breakfast when it doesn't go her way) who still sees herself as a victim of her dad's actions. I don't have questions about her as a character because we got and still get plenty of answers about her life. But sadly we cannot say the same about JeHa or Anna, who could have been just as interesting if we'd seen more layers of their personality. That's why I was glad when JeHa told YJ what he actually felt about her and that he would not give her the USB key. I was like: there you are JeHa! Finally, you speak up! (I knew that he was preparing something in the past episodes but his thoughts were not yet voiced to confirm it which is why maybe some were surprised by ep 14). Honestly, he could have said ''I want to be your chingu'' to YJ (which of course he wouldn't have because he is a stand-up character) and I would have still rejoiced! Because I would have been like ''ok at least now I know what you are thinking''. JeHa and Anna have trust issues because lets face it, the guy never told her the truth about his past. And although she apologized for not telling him about going with her uncle at the time, JeHa has yet to tell her his real name, what he is doing and why, etc. Yes, he is doing it to protect her but he could have told her much more by now. Also about the President's son. He is a Doctor, the author could have easily made him a psychiatrist or something for Anna's character. It would have made him more prominent in the story and would have been good for Anna's treatment of PTSD. Instead now it just seem like another intrigue within the intrigue, I find. Obviously this drama is very good in my opinion because it has me invested in the characters (although they do frustrate me at times haha) and that is a testament of the great acting by all involved. So kudos! But with a better writer, this story-line and plot could have been one of the best ever! The potential was all there, the acting, the chemistry among the cast was all there. Peace and have a great weekend! Edited November 6, 2016 by GODNA 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justapasserby 1,020 Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 Unpopular opinion coming through so I apologize in advance but here is my 2cents: **Note: I am actually a fan of all 3 main actors, so don't misunderstand me*** Let's begin with the fact that the drama's name is ''The K2''. I thought it would follow the story of this soldier-turned-bodyguard. At the beginning, the writer was on point as we got to know JeHa and sympathized with him and his situation. And dare I say that YJ and Anna could also draw sympathy at different levels. However, as the episodes went on, JeHa did not mature as a character (nor did Anna) until recently: we seldom get to hear his thoughts. I feel that the writer became a bit too mindful of SYA as a Sunbae actress that he gave her character too much importance. It got a bit tiresome because we don't know JeHa or Anna as much as we know Choi YooJin. And that is paradoxal since the drama's name is the K2. YJ is a very interesting, twisted character and I loooove that! I mean we know all about her inner thoughts, constantly learning about how she felt in the past, how she feels in the present, we know her devious mind all too well. She is a villain (she issues kill orders like she orders breakfast when it doesn't go her way) who still sees herself as a victim of her dad's actions. I don't have questions about her as a character because we got and still get plenty of answers about her life. But sadly we cannot say the same about JeHa or Anna, who could have been just as interesting if we'd seen more layers of their personality. That's why I was glad when JeHa told YJ what he actually felt about her and that he would not give her the USB key. I was like: there you are JeHa! Finally, you speak up! (I knew that he was preparing something in the past episodes but his thoughts were not yet voiced to confirm it which is why maybe some were surprised by ep 14). Honestly, he could have said ''I want to be your chingu'' to YJ (which of course he wouldn't have because he is a stand-up character) and I would have still rejoiced! Because I would have been like ''ok at least now I know what you are thinking''. JeHa and Anna have trust issues because lets face it, the guy never told her the truth about his past. And although she apologized for not telling him about going with her uncle at the time, JeHa has yet to tell her his real name, what he is doing and why, etc. Yes, he is doing it to protect her but he could have told her much more by now. Also about the President's son. He is a Doctor, the author could have easily made him a psychiatrist or something for Anna's character. It would have made him more prominent in the story and would have been good for Anna's treatment of PTSD. Instead now it just seem like another intrigue within the intrigue, I find. Obviously this drama is very good in my opinion because it has me invested in the characters (although they do frustrate me at times haha) and that is a testament of the great acting by all involved. So kudos! But with a better writer, this story-line and plot could have been one of the best ever! The potential was all there, the acting, the chemistry among the cast was all there. Peace and have a great weekend! Totally agreed with you. In fact many chinese, korean and international netizens have talk about it even sarcastically saying that this drama title should be called 'The Yoojin' or 'Madam Choi' Many people also pointed out that Choi Yoojin has many inner thought session but both Jeha and Anna lacked that and resulted in some viewers could not understand why they did this and that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black phoenix 312 Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peaceful World 455 Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 As much as I want to see the ending I'm not prepared to let it go yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black phoenix 312 Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 As much as I want to see the ending I'm not prepared to let it go yet me too; hope they give us a lot of fluffy scenes of our otp at the end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweety You 11,098 Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 (edited) Totally agreed with you. In fact many chinese, korean and international netizens have talk about it even sarcastically saying that this drama title should be called 'The Yoojin' or 'Madam Choi' Many people also pointed out that Choi Yoojin has many inner thought session but both Jeha and Anna lacked that and resulted in some viewers could not understand why they did this and that. This is why when they have a going-on survey about The K2's demand for DVD/Bluray. i don't want to participate at all because i don't want to spend money on something that's not even focused much on any of my faves (Yoona and Ji Chang Wook). If they release a DVD with just Jeha-Anna footages, i'll buy it right away I think it's also the reason why not many countries bought the broadcast rights of The K2 (yet) as of now. . I ordered The K2 OSTs CD btw, can't wait to hear all those amazing BGMs in HQ audio. Edited November 7, 2016 by Sweety You Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pelusa 743 Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 You know as messy as Yongpal was I still give it credit because it had so many cool female characters, and Yeo Jin was a fantastic heroine/villain. It seems to me like the writer split Yeo Jin in two, her villain side is Yoo Jin and her innocent side is Anna. I confess that I expected Anna to go through a transformation and become ruthless like Yoo Jin but it's not looking likely now with two episodes left, oh well. At this point I'm just glad the cast is getting praised. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black phoenix 312 Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 You know as messy as Yongpal was I still give it credit because it had so many cool female characters, and Yeo Jin was a fantastic heroine/villain. It seems to me like the writer split Yeo Jin in two, her villain side is Yoo Jin and her innocent side is Anna. I confess that I expected Anna to go through a transformation and become ruthless like Yoo Jin but it's not looking likely now with two episodes left, oh well. At this point I'm just glad the cast is getting praised. it would ve been unrealistic too, for a girl who was closed in a nunnery for 10 years to suddenly become shrewd and devious after she comes back to where she does not have any materialistic power. in some way she is still that naive little girl trapped in a woman body 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrillanteLucero 97 Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 This is why when they have a going-on survey about The K2's demand for DVD/Bluray. i don't want to participate at all because i don't want to spend money on something that's not even focused much on any of my faves (Yoona and Ji Chang Wook). If they release a DVD with just Jeha-Anna footages, i'll buy it right away I think it's also the reason why not many countries bought the broadcast rights of The K2 (yet) as of now. . I ordered The K2 OSTs CD btw, can't wait to hear all those amazing BGMs in HQ audio. I read you ordered the OST. Where were you able to do that? I am planning on buying it because I loved the OST for the drama. I've been trying to find it, and to no avail, perhaps I suck at searching. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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