BetweenYourThighs 2,958 Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 So obviously some Kpop fans think that there is some sort of reciprocity between the two words. When I state my opinon regarding your bias, it's suddenly hate, but when you openly hate on my bias and get called out for it, it's suddenly an opinon. Vice versa. So when is someone hating and when is someone stating an opinion? We need a 101 on how to state opinions without being a basic bitch. -xoxo- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--- 967 Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 hate - when someone says something bad about my bias opinion - everything i say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monochrome. 480 Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 Opinion: I don't like this song. I don't think it's a good song. Hate: This sOnG fuckinG suCkS tHey deSerVE to flOp wTf!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rukish 582 Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 Stating an opinion is saying something like i don't like that bands music Saying something is the worst band ever is the same thing as saying that is the worst group of people ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sistarstan 84 Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 Opinion: I don't like this song. I don't think it's a good song. Hate: This sOnG fuckinG suCkS tHey deSerVE to flOp wTf!!!! basically Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggyly 1,479 Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 Because people think misinformed opinions = hate, which is so misguided Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plutto 9,419 Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 Hate is still an opinion tho All hateful comments are opinions but not all opinions are hateful comments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonFury 3,019 Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 Opinion is shaped by emotion as well as other factors. Hate is emotion. That's why countering hate with reasonable arguments is fundamentally useless because emotion is the exclusion of reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vocalmonster 3,603 Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 Facts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggyly 1,479 Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 Opinion: I don't like this song. I don't think it's a good song. Hate: This sOnG fuckinG suCkS tHey deSerVE to flOp wTf!!!! I get shit all the time for stating my unpopular opinions in the most respectable manner Sometimes people are just pressed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsychoLotus 1,546 Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 Hate: Straight up calling something bullshit Opinion: Giving a critic on something - constructive criticism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munaka 11,943 Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 It depends on the way you phrase it. "He is ugly" "He isn't my type" Also have you seen this immm shksjdhkfs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimo 4,045 Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 Opinions can be hateful, just because its hateful doesnt mean its not an opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldCottonAccount 3,332 Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 Opinion: I don't like this song. I don't think it's a good song. Hate: This sOnG fuckinG suCkS tHey deSerVE to flOp wTf!!!! This. But it's annoying how too many fans get the two confused. Because apparently on OH users don't like it if people have contrasting opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catdog 394 Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 They are not mutually exclusive? An opinion can be hateful, but that is often subjective and up to the interpretation of the individual. This is why the concept of "hate speech" in legislature is so dubious - because what is or is not "hate" is totally at the discretion of the person/people in power. And for that reason it's never applied consistently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolcoolcool 893 Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 Hate: x is fugly Opinion: I don't find x attractive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nini Bear 3,530 Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 actually I think many users don't know what an opinion is either. when they're stating something as though it's a fact and call it an "opinion".. no, if it's an opinion you should be like "i personally think this artist isn't good" instead of "this artist is shit and he doesn't deserve this praise" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage14 1,945 Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 Basically, what everyone is saying. Opinions can be presented in a respectful manner but hate is often unnecessary and redundant and plain rude. An example: Opinion - Big Bang's music doesn't do it for me Irrelevant hate filled comment - Big Bang are trash and I refuse to accept their impact and GD dresses like shit everything they have ever done is horrible Also, take note that just because you get negged on OH, doesn't you mean you're being hateful. Everyone here is pressed. Although if your rep is -9000 then maybe you want to try something else... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vader 3,297 Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 opinion is like: i dont really like this song the chorus doesn't flow with the rest of it very well hate: I HATE THIS FUCKING SONG SO MUCH WTF DO THEY EVEN TRY ANYMORE OMFG CANT THEY JUST GTFO UGH !!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hangry 1,124 Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 its complicated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haiying4lyfe 496 Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 Hate: Straight up calling something bullshit Opinion: Giving a critic on something - constructive criticism This, but there are way too many people who mix these up and can't tell the difference. When their bias is criticised constructively or spoken of in an ill manner/getting plain bashed, it's all the same to them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ouroboros 205 Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 Opinion: I don't like this song. I don't think it's a good song. Hate: This sOnG fuckinG suCkS tHey deSerVE to flOp wTf!!!! Hate is still an opinion tho All hateful comments are opinions but not all opinions are hateful comments These two pretty much sums it up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ooahooah 573 Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 imo, opinions meant to build you up, while hate tries to bring you down. opinion : i think their comeback is unplanned, which is the reason why ppl disappointed hate : their comeback sucks they deserve their nugu title hate might contains opinion tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catdog 394 Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 actually I think many users don't know what an opinion is either. when they're stating something as though it's a fact and call it an "opinion".. no, if it's an opinion you should be like "i personally think this artist isn't good" instead of "this artist is shit and he doesn't deserve this praise" If you can't identify an opinion without that preface then that is your problem. Prefacing every subjective judgment with "I personally think" is redundant because it goes without saying unless you are socially retarded. If I say "this sushi tastes bad", and another person says "it tastes good", obviously both of us know that neither of those statements are quantifiable with facts, do you really need them to remind you first? Like... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nini Bear 3,530 Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 If you can't identify an opinion without that preface then that is your problem. Prefacing a subjective judgment with "I personally think" is redundant because it goes without saying unless you are socially retarded. If I say "this sushi tastes bad", and another person says "it tastes good", obviously neither of those statements are quantifiable with facts, do you really need them to remind you first? Like... i dont mean they literally have to use "i personally think that.." every time lol but if you think that way go ahead. i've seen enough ~opinions on oh to know that some users really do cross the line and go beyond "stating their opinion" while claiming it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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