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#1021 dragonfly0915

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Posted 07 February 2014 - 03:29 PM

Like, it was already obvious that they were doing badly, but I didn't realize nu'est actually did 8 fansigns to only get 5300 for sleep-talking... I think there's no other boygroup with comparable floppage. ._.

 

(... but I thought Sleep Talking was a terrible song, anyway.  Not one of Duble Sidekick's shining moments....)

I haven't seen other male groups decline like that either, they've just kept going down for each album they release =___= From Face to Action to Hello to Sleep Talking, either Pledis did some serious buybacks to buoy their debut numbers or all their fans have gradually jumped ship.


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Posted 07 February 2014 - 04:49 PM

I haven't seen other male groups decline like that either, they've just kept going down for each album they release =___= From Face to Action to Hello to Sleep Talking, either Pledis did some serious buybacks to buoy their debut numbers or all their fans have gradually jumped ship.

Action is certainly suspect... with that in mind, it didn't seem like Hello did that badly after adding both editions together.  Not better than Face, but not horrifically bad.  (OK, actually it sold a little better than Face on Hanteo, just their Gaon margin disappeared. >.> )  But Sleep Talking is a mess.  I seriously wonder why they decided to use that song for Nu'est-M, did they not consider how poorly it performed?!?!


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Posted 08 February 2014 - 06:38 AM

27 fansigns :derp:

And I thought they'd actually have fewer fansigns for Voodoo


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Posted 08 February 2014 - 07:43 PM

Fansign count for 2013 male idol groups' (or soloists from groups) albums

 

 

https://24.media.tumblr.com/7af76340bcf7...

 

 

 

 

I'm surprised with VIXX number of fansigns...and also teen top i thought they are only doing few fansigns.......


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#1025 lepidoptery

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Posted 08 February 2014 - 07:56 PM (Edited by lepidoptery, 08 February 2014 - 07:56 PM.)

I'm surprised with VIXX number of fansigns...and also teen top i thought they are only doing few fansigns.......

TT does a lot of fansigns, every time, for their actual releases, but much fewer for the repacks, whereas Vixx/Jellyfish is, uh, a lot more brazen about milking the fans and just does ridiculous numbers of fansigns always. XD  So IMO, neither actually sell better than b.a.p.


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#1026 Kr4M

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Posted 08 February 2014 - 08:09 PM

TT does a lot of fansigns, every time, for their actual releases, but much fewer for the repacks, whereas Vixx/Jellyfish is, uh, a lot more brazen about milking the fans and just does ridiculous numbers of fansigns always. XD  So IMO, neither actually sell better than b.a.p.

ahh i see...but Voodoo sales cant still surpass their repack.....are there still any scheduled vixx fansign?


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#1027 lepidoptery

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Posted 08 February 2014 - 08:19 PM (Edited by lepidoptery, 08 February 2014 - 08:51 PM.)

ahh i see...but Voodoo sales cant still surpass their repack.....are there still any scheduled vixx fansign?

You mean Jekyll's Gaon sales?  I just... file that away as a fluke. >.>;;  But Voodoo sold better than Jekyll on Hanteo even last year, so....

 

I wonder, considering the Starlights managed to get Jellyfish to apologize for their management.  Could be an empty gesture, but I suspect they don't want to unnecessarily antagonize the fandom anytime soon.  But dragonfly says that there couldn't be many more, because only certain stores actually do the fansign thing and they're running out. XD  (I guess this assumes they wouldn't do a fansign through the same store twice, though?)

 

EDIT: lulz, it's Sunday, 10:20 update for Hanteo.  The sales numbers are irrelevant since the #2 is at 18 copies, but it's funny since all of the top 6 are YG releases. XDDDD


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#1028 dragonfly0915

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Posted 08 February 2014 - 09:08 PM

ahh i see...but Voodoo sales cant still surpass their repack.....are there still any scheduled vixx fansign?

Honestly the Jekyll Gaon sales seemed like a mistake, 112K is more like what it should look like with Jekyll and Hyde combined and not just Jekyll by itself.

They are done with Voodoo fansigns, they announced the previous one as their last fansign.


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#1029 Kr4M

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Posted 08 February 2014 - 09:13 PM

Honestly the Jekyll Gaon sales seemed like a mistake, 112K is more like what it should look like with Jekyll and Hyde combined and not just Jekyll by itself.

They are done with Voodoo fansigns, they announced the previous one as their last fansign.

I think the number would be right if it was really the case...But isn't weird for gaon to have that kind of mistake and why they dont correct it? Is there any incident where gaon corrected an album sale?


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Posted 08 February 2014 - 10:42 PM

Looks like G-Dragon is showing up on Hanteo again.  :derp:


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#1031 dragonfly0915

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Posted 08 February 2014 - 11:58 PM

I think the number would be right if it was really the case...But isn't weird for gaon to have that kind of mistake and why they dont correct it? Is there any incident where gaon corrected an album sale?

Well, there's no solid proof that it's a mistake, so we can't really say Gaon should have corrected it. Even if it really is a mistake, It may not necessarily be Gaon's mistake--it could be that CJE&M made a mistake in their reporting.

 

I've never seen anything like this happen until last year. MBLAQ's "Love Beat" is in a similar situation. Sexy Beat sold 30937 on Hanteo and 33736 on Gaon. Love Beat is the repackage and has barely 7000 on Hanteo but has 36205 on Gaon. It's different because 36000 is not enough to be Sexy Beat+Love Beat combined, but the Gaon to Hanteo ratio is abnormally high. Both of these albums are distributed by CJE&M so I wonder if they had some issues with separating the repackage from the original album.


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#1032 dragonfly0915

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Posted 09 February 2014 - 02:22 AM (Edited by dragonfly0915, 17 January 2016 - 05:13 PM.)

Idol Group Total Career Hanteo Sales

*All data is through 2015 December 31 unless otherwise stated

*All sales recorded on Hanteo are included, including CDs, DVDs, Photobook packages, etc.

*Girl groups highlighted in red

*Solos and unit group albums are counted separately per Hanteo's listing. For those units/solos with <100K in sales by themselves, I have noted their sales underneath the group sales where possible.

 

TVXQ - 2,729,000+

Total since 2009 is 997,637. Data is incomplete prior to 2009.

Exo - 2,460,000

Exo-K and Exo-M albums are listed with their respective entries.

Super Junior - 1,902,000+

Data prior to 2009 partial; +SJ-H and SJ-T 58K, D&E 96K, Kyuhyun 91K

Big Bang - 1,749,000+

Data prior to 2009 partial; GD&TOP+GDxTaeyang+Seungri+TOP=173K. GD and Taeyang listed separately.

Girls' Generation - 1,401,000

Data prior to 2009 is complete; Taeyeon 86K. Taetiseo listed separately.

SHINee - 1,299,000

+Taemin 70K, Jonghyun 89K

Infinite - 983,000

+Infinite F 37K; Infinite H and Sunggyu listed separately.

Beast - 817,000

+Yoseob ~52K and Junhyung ~26K

B1A4 - 619,000

BTS - 611,000

VIXX - 602,000

+VIXX LR 57K

2PM - 579,000

+Wooyoung ~80K

CNBlue - 560,000

+Yonghwa 90K

Teen Top - 487,000

F.T Island - 480,000+

Data prior to 2009 partial.

B.A.P - 454,000

JYJ - 430,000

Complete through end of 2014 only

Exo-K - 420,000

f(x) - 384,000

+Amber 12K

Got7 - 316,000

Wonder Girls - 311,000+

Missing 2008 sales for The Wonder Begins

Exo-M - 282,000

2NE1 - 276,000

SS501 - 275,000+

Sum of year-end data through 2013 only

KARA - 274,000+

Missing 2008 sales for Blooming and Rock U

Block B - 266,000

+Bastarz 23K, Zico 20K

T-ara - 243,000

+T-ara N4, Jiyeon, Hyomin, Eunjung ~32K

Apink - 242,000

BtoB - 235,000

MBLAQ - 204,000

Complete through end of 2014 only

2AM - 170,000+

Complete through end of 2014 only

U-Kiss - 164,000+

2008 sales missing

Seventeen - 154,000

Taetiseo - 148,000

Boyfriend -149,000

Davichi - 129,000

4minute - 121,000

Infinite H - 120,000

Super Junior M - 107,000

+Henry ~26K and Zhou Mi 3900

 

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Some girl groups that have <100K but >30K

After School - 64,000 through end of 2014

AOA - 77,000 (includes AOA Black)

Girl's Day - 79,000, +Minah 12K

miss A - 67,000

Lovelyz - 39,000

Nine Muses - 36,000

Secret - 51,000 through end of 2014, +Hyosung 20K and JIeun ~3K

Sistar - 76,000, +Sistar19 ~9000 and Hyorin ~5K

 

 

SOLOS

G-Dragon - 519,000

IU - 327,000 (missing 2008)

Kim Hyunjoong - 295,000+

Sum of data from year-end charts only

Jay Park - 293,000

Jaejoong - 269,000

Xiah Junsu - 265,000+

Data incomplete for 2013 and 2014

Taeyang - 157,000

Sunggyu - 138,000

 

I think I've covered every group debuting after TVXQ that has over 100K. If you see anyone missing, please let me know.


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Posted 09 February 2014 - 02:51 AM

Idol Group Total Career Hanteo Sales (100K+ only)

*All data is through 2013 December 31 unless otherwise stated

*Girl groups highlighted in red

*Anything listed separately by Hanteo (except reprints) counts as a different "version", including repackages (i.e. different covers are not different versions)

*All DVDs, live albums, compilation albums, and "best of" albums excluded (i.e. albums not focused on new material)

*Solos and unit groups excluded

*Japanese albums/singles excluded, imported or otherwise

 

TVXQ - 2,000,000+ (includes Tense sales up to 140208, JYJ counted separately)

1.772 million for 6 full albums (18 versions) + 1 single album (2 versions) + 1 Xmas album--this is somewhat incomplete for those albums and also does not include sales from Hug, Hi Ya Ya and Rising Sun. To the best of my knowledge those 3 albums all exceeded 100K so total is over 2 million.

Super Junior - 1,348,000 - 6 full (16 ver) +1 single

1,494,000 including solo/units (yes, this includes Henry)

Big Bang - 1,250,000 - 2 full + 3 single + 5 mini (7 ver)

1,964,000 including solo/units; Let's Talk About Love, Coup D'etat & Doom Dada updated to 140207

Girls' Generation - 1,072,000 - 4 full (7 ver) + 3 mini + 1 single

1,151,000 including Twinkle sales through 130512

Exo - 1,036,000 through 140208 - 1 full (4 ver)

1,265,000 including MAMA. You could argue M and K are technically separate for XOXO and Growl (in which case Exo-K would have 760K and M would have 505K), but since all the versions were credited under "Exo" on Hanteo, I am letting it stand as is so the figure is consistent with what Hanteo's records show.

SHINee - 1,003,000 - 3 full (9 ver) + 5 mini

Infinite - 572,000 - 1 full (2 ver) + 4 mini + 2 single

719,000 including Infinite H and Sunggyu's minis

Beast - 514,000 - 2 full (3 ver) + 5 mini (7 ver)

585,000 including solos; Yoseob's solo only updated to the end of 2012, Junhyung's solo updated to 140207

2PM - 448,000 - 3 full (6 ver) + 1 mini + 3 single

527,000 including Wooyoung's solo

B1A4 - 441,000 - 2 full (3 ver) + 4 mini

Who Am I sales through 140208

F.T Island - 390,000+ - 4 full (6 ver) + 5 mini + 1 remake + 1 anniversary album

Some of year-end data only (i.e. sales of old albums in later years are missing if they did not make the top 100), The Mood updated to 140205

CNBlue - 386,000 - 1 full (2 ver) + 4 mini (6 ver) + 2 special albums

Teen Top - 320,000 - 1 full (3 ver) + 4 mini (5 ver) + 2 singles + 1 special album

JYJ - 275,000+ - 2 full (5 ver)

Sum of year-end data only; includes English album with 3 versions; total 700,000+ including solos

SS501 - 275,000+

Sum of year-end data only; 627,000 including solos

Wonder Girls - 274,000+ - 2 full + 2 mini + 3 singles

Sum of year-end data only

f(x) - 225,000 through 130131- 2 full (3 ver) + 2 mini + 1 single

Pink Tape's updated to 140205

B.A.P - 286,000 through 140128 - 1 full + 3 mini (4 ver) + 3 singles

First Sensibility updated to 140208

2NE1 - 216,000 - 1 full + 2 mini

KARA - 213,000+ - 4 full (6 ver) + 3 mini (5 ver)

Sum of year-end data only; Rock U sales missing

T-ara - 195,000 through 130131 - 1 full (3 ver) + 7 mini (9 ver)

Again updated to the end of 2013 and Again 1977 updated to 140205; 213,000 including T-ara N4's 2013 sales

VIXX - 226,000 through 140128 - 1 full + 2 mini (3 ver) + 2 singles

MBLAQ - 178,000 through 130204 - 1 full (2 ver) + 5 mini (7 ver)

Sexy Beat updated to the end of 2013, Love Beat to 131006

2AM - 155,000+ - 2 full (3 ver) + 3 mini (4 ver) + 2 singles

Sum of year-end data only

U-Kiss - 147,000 through 130916 - 3 full + 8 mini + 1 special album

2008 sales missing, Collage & Moments updated to the end of 2013

Block B - 129,000+ - 1 full (2 ver) + 3 mini (5 ver)

4minute - 108,000 through 130131 - 1 full + 4 mini

What's Your Name updated to the end of 2013

 

SOLOS

G-Dragon - 445,000 - 2 full + 1 mini

Kim Hyunjoong - 275,000 - 3 mini (6 ver)

Hero Jaejoong - 255,000 through 140131- 1 full (2 ver) + 1 mini (2 ver)

WWW: Removing Makeup updated to 140206

Jay Park - 206,000 through 130204 - 1 full + 1 mini + 1 single

Xiah Junsu - 170,000+ - 2 full + 1 single, excludes musical albums/DVDs

Sum of year-end data only

Taeyang - 111,000 - 1 full (3 ver) + 1 mini

 

I'm pretty sure I've covered every group debuting after TVXQ that has over 100K. If anyone knows of more, please let me know.

did you add Trouble Maker album sales to both 4minute and BEAST? or you actually separates them from both

just curious since you add Infinite-H's album on Infinite lol


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Posted 09 February 2014 - 03:19 AM

:ahmagah:  :ahmagah: ..B1A4 finally reach 100k.... :smile:  :smile: 


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Posted 09 February 2014 - 05:16 AM

Idol Group Total Career Hanteo Sales (100K+ only)

 

 

Exo - 1,036,000 through 140208 - 1 full (4 ver)

1,265,000 including MAMA. You could argue M and K are technically separate for XOXO and Growl (in which case Exo-K would have 760K and M would have 505K), but since all the versions were credited under "Exo" on Hanteo, I am letting it stand as is so the figure is consistent with what Hanteo's records show.

 

Its included 2 mini (Miracles in December) 2, or not?


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Posted 09 February 2014 - 07:36 AM

Didn't know WG sold that well!


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Posted 09 February 2014 - 08:23 AM

2NE1 .. 1 full 2 mini ... Let me cry :cry:

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Posted 09 February 2014 - 08:33 AM

B.A.P - 286,000 through 140128 - 1 full + 3 mini (4 ver) + 3 singles

First Sensibility updated to 140208

A little confused about why you wrote it this way... their other albums aren't really selling significantly, so isn't it all pretty much updated through 140208 rather than 140128?


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Posted 09 February 2014 - 01:54 PM

did you add Trouble Maker album sales to both 4minute and BEAST? or you actually separates them from both

just curious since you add Infinite-H's album on Infinite lol

Trouble Maker is not included in either of them. Since the sales can't be attributed to either group individually, it's excluded altogether.

 

Its included 2 mini (Miracles in December) 2, or not?

Yes it does, I forgot to add it on the info. Thanks for reminding me.

 

Didn't know WG sold that well!

They sold really well in 2007-2008 and have been kind of dismal since....

 

A little confused about why you wrote it this way... their other albums aren't really selling significantly, so isn't it all pretty much updated through 140208 rather than 140128?

My source happens to have a total for all of their albums through 140128 so it's listed that way, though it's true that the total as of 140208 is not very different from the total 11 days ago.


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Posted 09 February 2014 - 01:54 PM

Idol Group Total Career Hanteo Sales (100K+ only)

 

Teen Top - 320,000 - 1 full (3 ver) + 4 mini (5 ver) + 2 singles + 1 special album

JYJ - 275,000+ - 2 full (5 ver)

Sum of year-end data only; includes English album with 3 versions; total 700,000+ including solos

SS501 - 275,000+

Sum of year-end data only; 627,000 including solos

Wonder Girls - 274,000+ - 2 full + 2 mini + 3 singles

Sum of year-end data only

f(x) - 225,000 through 130131- 2 full (3 ver) + 2 mini + 1 single

Pink Tape's updated to 140205

B.A.P - 286,000 through 140128 - 1 full + 3 mini (4 ver) + 3 singles

First Sensibility updated to 140208

2NE1 - 216,000 - 1 full + 2 mini

KARA - 213,000+ - 4 full (6 ver) + 3 mini (5 ver)

Sum of year-end data only; Rock U sales missing

T-ara - 195,000 through 130131 - 1 full (3 ver) + 7 mini (9 ver)

Again updated to the end of 2013 and Again 1977 updated to 140205; 213,000 including T-ara N4's 2013 sales

 

 

 

I am a little confuse about why if BAP sold 286k they are under groups that sold less according to this list.. i guess i understand the plus but f(x) only has 225k. Is there any reason for this? Thanks for the list ^^


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