BetweenYourThighs 2,958 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 So by having a different opinion to others, stanning another group, making threads to put light on different topics (or for fun), etc. you're called a troll. Some of you can't express your opinion for shit and always have to bandwagon the most popular comment. It's honestly cringeworthy. I don't even know what a troll is anymore since it's used for every single thing that deviates your taste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaVandercunt 19 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 I know exactly what you're talking about. I've been called a racist, a bigot, been told that I'm blinded by my prejudice and xenophobia etc.... All because I do not share the same views as others on those refugees and migrants invading Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ooahooah 573 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 not me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowdjinn 5,655 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 You realize that You are just spreading hate right now ? 1,) You say to other OH users "you cannot express your opinion for shit" 2.) You also accuse them of "always bandwagon". 3.) You call the behaviour of other OH users "cringe-worthy". They dont agree with You because they HAVE an opinion. And they dont bandwagon they tell You right in the face that You are wrong. (because thats their opinion thats different from Yours.) They dont agree with You. Maybe you should accept that they have a right to have a different opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonVIP 2,461 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 not me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missa 7,410 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 i got called a troll when i'm clearly not smh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itsmee 2,656 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 agreed 95% of people here have no personality or opinion on their own they just copy paste what most people say, even if it's incorrect information For example someone was saying how f(X) discography was superior when I pm that person to send me the their best tracks (because I want to get to know them better) the person couldn't send it because they didn't knew f(x) songs besides the title tracks Maybe they do have an amazing discography but why would you say that if you never heard them? so annoying this bandwagon people edit- downvoting won't make you gain a personality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowdjinn 5,655 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 For example someone was saying how f(X) discography was superior when I pm that person to send me the their best tracks (because I want to get to know them better) the person couldn't send it because they didn't knew f(x) songs besides the title tracks Maybe they do have an amazing discography but why would you say that if you never heard them? so annoying this bandwagon people Why would they invest a lot of time in making a list of best tracks just for You ? Its not their job to persuade You ? They have every right to have the opinion "FX discography is superior". And thats not bandwagon. Thats obviously an opinion they clearly state. And there is no rule that you must know EVERY song ever made of them. The person can have that opinion even if listening to only a few songs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetweenYourThighs 2,958 Posted July 25, 2016 Author Share Posted July 25, 2016 You realize that You are just spreading hate right now ? 1,) You say to other OH users "you cannot express your opinion for shit" 2.) You also accuse them of "always bandwagon". 3.) You call the behaviour of other OH users "cringe-worthy". They dont agree with You because they HAVE an opinion. And they dont bandwagon they tell You right in the face that You are wrong. (because thats their opinion thats different from Yours.) They dont agree with You. Maybe you should accept that they have a right to have a different opinion. I don't think you understand the OP. People here are afraid to express their opinions first of all. Why? I don't know. A hand full of people here seem to tell what they have on their minds, the rest just go with the flow. Second of all, I've seen plenty of occassion where users are called trolls (I'll stick to this word since that's the most misused word here IMO) that mean real deal. If a user finally puts light to their opinion or thought they'll quickly be judged as troll 80% of the time, which ultimately sucks. Lastly, I'm not here to spew hate but making a claim based off of what I've seen go down here, and is clearly problematic amongst most users. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowdjinn 5,655 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 People here are afraid to express their opinions first of all. Why? I don't know. A hand full of people here seem to tell what they have on their minds, With all respect, You dont know what they have on their minds. Therefore, you should assume that what they post IS their real opinion. Just because its not your opinion, doesnt make it false. Maybe they are not afraid, Maybe they just have a different opinion than what you want ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itsmee 2,656 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 Why would they invest a lot of time in making a list of best tracks just for You ? Its not their job to persuade You ? They have every right to have the opinion "FX discography is superior". And thats not bandwagon. Thats obviously an opinion they clearly state. And there is no rule that you must know EVERY song ever made of them. The person can have that opinion even if listening to only a few songs. you don't get it I wasn't being confrontational or being like "ohh yeah then prove it"I was just like ohh then what are your fav tracks from their discography and the person only knew the title tracks How can you claim fx discography is superior when you only heard the title tracks?? I mean when I hear the word discography I think about the songs in the album not just the title track I'm not attacking fx discography I'm just saying it's stupid to say it, if you never heard their full albums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetweenYourThighs 2,958 Posted July 25, 2016 Author Share Posted July 25, 2016 With all respect, You dont know what they have on their minds. Therefore, you should assume that what they post IS their real opinion. Just because its not your opinion, doesnt make it false. Maybe they are not afraid, Maybe they just have a different opinion than you want ? I get you. Again, I have nothing against them having a different opinion than mine. That's exactly what I'm all for. What I do mind is the misuse of words when someone HAS a different opinion than yours. E.g I don't agree or do something you feel is right, then in your opinion I'm a troll, and the next user to come is just going to say that I'm a troll because you already said that, and the chain reaction begins. That makes no sense at all. I highlighted different situations in the OP. Like how can someone be a troll if they have a different opinion than yours? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
양 지 10,015 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 I have a very clear opinion though. Exo and Girl's Day are the superierest kpop groups ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darling 1,107 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 I agree with you, but when you take those users seriously you have to step away from the forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowdjinn 5,655 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 I was just like ohh then what are your fav tracks from their discography and the person only knew the title tracks How can you claim fx discography is superior when you only heard the title tracks?? I mean when I hear the word discography I think about the songs in the album not just the title track I'm not attacking fx discography I'm just saying it's stupid to say it, if you never heard their full albums that user was obviously a fan of FX and just wanted to say FX is awesome. I have not read the real thread, so unfortunately i cannot go into detail on this. No matter what, that person simply states the opinion that "FX music is awesome" and thats about personal taste. I cannot see how this is bandwagon. its clearly expressing her/his personal taste. So i dont get why You accuse them of bandwagon. And about not using the term "discography" correctly.. COME ON... OH users are from many different countries and not all of us know the exact meaning of every english word. So calm down and dont hate on that person. In all respect, i think You totally overreact. I get you. Again, I have nothing against them having a different opinion than mine. That's exactly what I'm all for. What I do mind is the misuse of words when someone HAS a different opinion than yours. E.g I don't agree or do something you feel is right, then in your opinion I'm a troll, and the next user to come is just going to say that I'm a troll because you already said that, and the chain reaction begins. That makes no sense at all. I highlighted different situations in the OP. Like how can someone be a troll if they have a different opinion than yours? I think the reason why You are called a troll in threads is because You use insultive language (look at Your OP) and that sounds a lot like someone who just wants to provoke and make people angry and bitter = a troll. Your OP doesnt come across as an honest attempt to fairly discuss something. You are pretty much insulting everyone and accusing them, instead of discussing this in a fair normal way like a non-troll would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelcey 27 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 Having a different opinion is fine, but when people are being assholes about their opinion, and/or trying to stir shit up just to troll and hate isn't fine, but this kpop after all, so there isn't much that can be done about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrawberryKoong 1,085 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 being a victim of this I can sort of understand what you are saying. I have seen comments where people literally say they can't say what they mean because they will get down votes or hate etc. like they are actually afraid to saw what they want. I'm not for people being outrightly hateful or rude, but I also don't like the unspoken sanctions placed on people for going against the grain and having different opinions. It ruins the honesty. You can have a different opinion without downright being mean or hateful. And I get that it's anyone's right to downvote something they disagree with but they don't have any moderation. This is partly the reason why I tend to say things without a filter even though I could be a LOT more subtle. I chose not to because being subtle makes me feel like I'm kowtowing to the people who disagree with me just to satiate them. So I say exactly what I mean and accept my downvotes even though with a feeling of bittersweetness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetweenYourThighs 2,958 Posted July 25, 2016 Author Share Posted July 25, 2016 that user was obviously a fan of FX and just wanted to say FX is awesome. I have not read the real thread, so unfortunately i cannot go into detail on this. No matter what, that person simply states the opinion that "FX music is awesome" and thats about personal taste. I cannot see how this is bandwagon. its clearly expressing her/his personal taste. So i dont get why You accuse them of bandwagon. And about not using the term "discography" correctly.. COME ON... OH users are from many different countries and not all of us know the exact meaning of every english word. So calm down and dont hate on that person. In all respect, i think You totally overreact. I think the reason why You are called a troll in threads is because You use insultive language (look at Your OP) and that sounds a lot like someone who just wants to provoke and make people angry and bitter = a troll. Your OP doesnt come across as an honest attempt to fairly discuss something. You are pretty much insulting everyone and accusing them, instead of discussing this in a fair normal way like a non-troll would. I've never insulted anyone before on here, and this post wasn't meant to insult, but make a stand point. If it truly did insult people, then I own up to it. My point with this thread: It's a collective matter that I want to be addressed. Furthermore, my language or the way I talk is more or less the same towards everyone. If you mean me using words like shit, then I've said worse. And on that point I've never been called a troll. Being called a troll comes from me making threads to address different threads lately to chat up some topics and of course for the fun of things. I might add that I was not called a troll directly, but someone said that indirectly by asking why I'm making so many threads. My overall issue with the troll-word is the misusage that I have seen repeat itself more than once or twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hangry 1,124 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 well,yeah,the majority arent brave enough to say what they think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetweenYourThighs 2,958 Posted July 25, 2016 Author Share Posted July 25, 2016 being a victim of this I can sort of understand what you are saying. I have seen comments where people literally say they can't say what they mean because they will get down votes or hate etc. like they are actually afraid to saw what they want. I'm not for people being outrightly hateful or rude, but I also don't like the unspoken sanctions placed on people for going against the grain and having different opinions. It ruins the honesty. You can have a different opinion without downright being mean or hateful. And I get that it's anyone's right to downvote something they disagree with but they don't have any moderation. This is partly the reason why I tend to say things without a filter even though I could be a LOT more subtle. I chose not to because being subtle makes me feel like I'm kowtowing to the people who disagree with me just to satiate them. So I say exactly what I mean and accept my downvotes even though with a feeling of bittersweetness. I get what you're saying and this is what I want people know. I've seen it happen so many times that it sort of irks me. And when finally own up to saying what mean without being hateful or mean you get called whatever, and most of all claimed to be a troll. I'm never too serious when I'm foruming w and support laughs and good fun but sometimes, being sarcastic or playfull while honest can be a negative thing of its own. That's what annoys me. And then you have to conform to the majority of opinions because you can't express what you think since that'll be looked down upon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetweenYourThighs 2,958 Posted July 25, 2016 Author Share Posted July 25, 2016 I agree with you, but when you take those users seriously you have to step away from the forum. True. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowdjinn 5,655 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 and this post wasn't meant to insult, but make a stand point. You are not serious, are You ? You said.... "you cannot express your opinion for shit". If you cannot tell that this is insultive and will automatically lead to people hate you from that point on, then i dont know what to tell You. If you mean me using words like shit, then I've said worse. And on that point I've never been called a troll. I think You just dont realize that You poison Your own threads with these kind of words and then they make You look like a troll. Being called a troll comes from me making threads to address different threads lately to chat up some topics and of course for the fun of things. I might add that I was not called a troll directly, but someone said that indirectly by asking why I'm making so many threads. My overall issue with the troll-word is the misusage that I have seen repeat itself more than once or twice. Well, if someone keeps making thread after thread after thread... it does look like they are not serious about it. That leaves an impression on other users. If you keep making thread after thread after thread... the feeling will be : "why another thread ? is that person not seriously interested in what she/he posted a minute ago ? Something is fishy here." But i am pretty sure its WHAT you post in these threads. Maybe too many negative comments ? Lets just remember what OH is.... a KPOP forum for fans of KPOP to share their love for KPOP with each other. If You come and be negative about everything and critizise than you look like a troll. Because seriously..... if there is a football forum with football fans and an anti-football fan goes there and tells them how much he hates football.. he will be a troll too. OH is suppose to be for fans of the genre, to interact and have positive fun. I get what you're saying and this is what I want people know. I've seen it happen so many times that it sort of irks me. And when finally own up to saying what mean without being hateful or mean you get called whatever, and most of all claimed to be a troll. I'm never too serious when I'm foruming w and support laughs and good fun but sometimes, being sarcastic or playfull while honest can be a negative thing of its own. That's what annoys me. Seriously, i am pretty sure its the way you talk AND/OR that you just ruin the fun for people. Thats usually the Top 2 reasons why users are called trolls. And then you have to conform to the majority of opinions because you can't express what you think since that'll be looked down upon. Well, its a forum for KPOP lovers. What do You expect ? And the majority always rules in any kind of social media. Thats normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetweenYourThighs 2,958 Posted July 25, 2016 Author Share Posted July 25, 2016 You are not serious, are You ? You said.... "you cannot express your opinion for shit". If you cannot tell that this is insultive and will automatically lead to people hate you from that point on, then i dont know what to tell You. I think You just dont realize that You poison Your own threads with these kind of words and then they make You look like a troll. Well, if someone keeps making thread after thread after thread... it does look like they are not serious about it. That leaves an impression on other users. If you keep making thread after thread after thread... the feeling will be : "why another thread ? is that person not seriously interested in what she/he posted a minute ago ? Something is fishy here." But i am pretty sure its WHAT you post in these threads. Maybe too many negative comments ? Lets just remember what OH is.... a KPOP forum for fans of KPOP to share their love for KPOP with each other. If You come and be negative about everything and critizise than you look like a troll. Because seriously..... if there is a football forum with football fans and an anti-football fan goes there and tells them how much he hates football.. he will be a troll too. OH is suppose to be for fans of the genre, to interact and have positive fun. Seriously, i am pretty sure its the way you talk AND/OR that you just ruin the fun for people. Thats usually the Top 2 reasons why users are called trolls. Well, its a forum for KPOP lovers. What do You expect ? And the majority always rules in any kind of social media. Thats normal. I did say that it wasn't to insult anyone but if it did then, I'm going to own up to it. I created the OP in a moment of bad tension. I apologize. Making threads after threads is for a way to keep the activity of the forum going but also discussion stuff while being open minded. I feel like most get too touchy on subjects that others might feel is suppose to be discussed. I create threads depending on what I feel could make most users vibe to or express opinions in, and most of the time it actually helps with 2+ pages everytime. But with everything else you've adressed, I'll be more cautious. I'm pretty straightforward and honest but I'm not trying to be rude in any way. One thing though, what do you mean "ruin the fun for people?" regardless I've been trying to do the opposite, and it has never been my agenda. I think you're only judging me from this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowdjinn 5,655 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 One thing though, what do you mean "ruin the fun for people?" regardless I've been trying to do the opposite, and it has never been my agenda. I think you're only judging me from this thread. i did not study Your threads the last couple of weeks so i am sorry i can only talk in general. i am just saying why people are called trolls in general. Making threads after threads is for a way to keep the activity of the forum going but also discussion stuff while being open minded. I feel like most get too touchy on subjects that others might feel is suppose to be discussed. I create threads depending on what I feel could make most users vibe to or express opinions in, and most of the time it actually helps with 2+ pages everytime. Yes, okay. Wish You good luck with that. Maybe i find some of your threads in the future and comment on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetweenYourThighs 2,958 Posted July 25, 2016 Author Share Posted July 25, 2016 i did not study Your threads the last couple of weeks so i am sorry i can only talk in general. i am just saying why people are called trolls in general. Yes, okay. Wish You good luck with that. Maybe i find some of your threads in the future and comment on them. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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