Neural Network 834 Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 When you see even a japanese celebrity Kiko Mizuhara had to apologize to China: http://onehallyu.com/topic/361791-breaking-kiko-mizuhara-releases-apology-video-to-china/ , even a taiwanese kpop idol had to apologize to China: you got to realize how big must be the pressure to chinese kpop idols (Lay, Victoria, Fei, Jia, Luhan, Kris, Tao, Cao Lu). And when you say "Fine, I get it. But then again why they (namely Victoria, Lay, Fei etc) had to post their stance on IG, which is a platform to international audience?", I will ask you "Then why did Kiko Mizuhara posted on IG too? Why was Tzuyu's apology video posted on IG too? Instead of weibo?". What you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irene Is Love 1,451 Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 They all need money from China Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chizuru 1,387 Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 Fei never posted it on IG, it was her Weibo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briar Rose 7,488 Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 China owns the Korean industry for sure but I figured Japan would be safe guess not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dead. 2,080 Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 So much that an a-lister like Zhao Wei had to drop her like a hot potato and deny Kiko took part in the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperBase 3,193 Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 and people still complaining about those celebrities... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allseeingeye 2,599 Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 Pretty damn big... Look I understand why people are upset. I really do. But China is not a country in which free speech is permitted. You follow the country's laws or you get your life literally ruined. It's not easy to even talk about this issues with my DAD whose lived outside of China for such a long time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonSone 30,138 Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 It depends, if you have something important to do there or with them, you have to bow then. They know China can affect their money. That's why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remembering 7,109 Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 Big enough yuans to do hostage - looking apologies. JYPE was going to lose big. If JYPE wants to to takeover YG'S #2 spot, they know they can't ignore China. YG gets 20% of their earnings from China. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reVel 7,952 Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 That pressure is called MONEY. If you want to promote in China you'd better bend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC3 3,339 Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 That pressure is called MONEY. If you want to promote in China you'd better bend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nintat 4,072 Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 Tao, Luhan and Kris are not kpop idols anymore, don't think Jia will do anything in Korean entertainment anymore either. This topic is getting old and the people who don't want to understand reasoning about why they posted it and why many of them most possibly believe in it are just being obtuse because they want to be hateful and create drama. The artists I know that posted this, except Kris, were raised in mainland China, they were raised in a environment that heavily encourages nationalism, there's a lot of state propaganda; people thinking that those News about fishermen from SEA countries are being reproduced by Mainland Chinese News outlets are just being naive so no, stop saying they are condoning killings or whatever. This is more complex than people are making it out to be but some of you all will try to have "fun" creating drama out of any topic, regardless of how sensitive it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valeriekmy96 3,375 Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 Enough, you just posted this and now you still wanna drag tzuyu again? Wtf do you want exactly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinecone 117 Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 I remember when I was young I read long and well-written political debates by the older members of Soompi. OH doesn't have the userbase for the type of debate you might be trying to start. onehualiu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haus of Tzu:Lai 5,450 Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 You should move to a political news site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusicL 1,007 Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 I don't know about the Japanese girl but the bullying cnetz demanded Tzuyu to apologize on international SNS for the world to see since they got pissed off of negative comments from ifans. But they got backfired, the bullying could have stayed in the kpop news but her public apology in youtube caused Taiwan's uproar and got the attention from the western media. No doubt cnetz pressured their celebs to post the offensive message "China cannot lose an inch" on international social platform to the world. Poor these idols for getting hate, but they have their own people to blame, not SEA fans. Just because their idols slap their faces in the order of others, they shouldn't react? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimvfilms 3,308 Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 When you see even a japanese celebrity Kiko Mizuhara had to apologize to China: http://onehallyu.com/topic/361791-breaking-kiko-mizuhara-releases-apology-video-to-china/ , even a taiwanese kpop idol had to apologize to China: you got to realize how big must be the pressure to chinese kpop idols (Lay, Victoria, Fei, Jia, Luhan, Kris, Tao, Cao Lu). And when you say "Fine, I get it. But then again why they (namely Victoria, Lay, Fei etc) had to post their stance on IG, which is a platform to international audience?", I will ask you "Then why did Kiko Mizuhara posted on IG too? Why was Tzuyu's apology video posted on IG too? Instead of weibo?". What you think? First of all, Tzuyu apologize wasn't post on IG. It was posted on Youtube. To answer your question: IT'S ALL ABOUT MONEY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neural Network 834 Posted July 16, 2016 Author Share Posted July 16, 2016 I don't know about the Japanese girl but the bullying cnetz demanded Tzuyu to apologize on international SNS for the world to see since they got pissed off of negative comments from ifans. But they got backfired, the bullying could have stayed in the kpop news but her public apology in youtube caused Taiwan's uproar and got the attention from the western media. No doubt cnetz pressured their celebs to post the offensive message "China cannot lose an inch" on international social platform to the world. Poor these idols for getting hate, but they have their own people to blame, not SEA fans. Just because their idols slap their faces in the order of others, they shouldn't react? So hypocrisy and double standard as I said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valeriekmy96 3,375 Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 Mess at OP who couldn't differentiate between 2 situations, the ignorance is so real Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chloesapphire 583 Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 well china's market is very lucrative, so money is everything nowadays u know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusicL 1,007 Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 So hypocrisy and double standard as I said Please don't treat them in the same matter. SEA fans haven't boycotted their label mates or ther label company as Chinese did with JYP. And Tzuyu didn't even say anything offensive, only held a Taiwanese flag. If they found it offensive, I would understand them to boycott her only, but they also punished her group and her company as well. That's bullying. About these Chinese kpop idols, they could disprove the ruling without offensive message "China cannot lose 1 inch", even Chinese government officials didn't even say it because that's just asking for war. Anyways, cnetz and these Chinese idols don't realize the just added the fuel to the fire, now I'm starting seeing people posting this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bâ„“aster 3,312 Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 I guess OP is a child and never know the complete stories behind Philippines or Tzuyu or Kiko's cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassy__ 70 Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 Actually, China hasn't blacklisted their label mates... Jackson (from Got7) is pretty active in China. Suzy is also liked and China hasn't ever tried to stop anyone from watching anything with these two in it. I don't know anyone else under JYP, but from what I know about them, they're very well-received Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WON Hallyu 18,527 Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 Please don't treat them in the same matter. SEA fans haven't boycotted their label mates or ther label company as Chinese did with JYP. And Tzuyu didn't even say anything offensive, only held a Taiwanese flag. If they found it offensive, I would understand them to boycott her only, but they also punished her group and her company as well. That's bullying. About these Chinese kpop idols, they could disprove the ruling without offensive message "China cannot lose 1 inch", even Chinese government officials didn't even say it because that's just asking for war. Anyways, cnetz and these Chinese idols don't realize the just added the fuel to the fire, now I'm starting seeing people posting this: lol what are u on about? The 'China cannot lose 1 inch' comment was a hashtag made by the official newspaper of the Chinese Communist Party People's Daily. Stop trying to make it sound like these C kpop idols invented this message pls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToucHush 159 Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 even a taiwanese kpop idol had to apologize to China: It's Funny because talking about Tzuyu, did you know that Taiwan or Republic of China, used to control Hainan and lost it in 1950, Hainan is Fei's birth place and is now totally Chinese. See how funny it is, We tend to oppose one to the other, Fei/Tzuyu, when in fact they are sooo close historically speaking... Anyway I like China and the republic of China. Try to be peaceful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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