goodsync 761 Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 You have to see this, she is so right. why are those racist cops looking jobs in a black community and not in a white community. Click here to view the Tweet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Only 1 U Need Connoisseur 6,671 Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 I agree 100%.. I know some places you can't really "pick" they just place you in a district though. So you could end up anywhere. Although I am sure it can depend on the place.. (i'm not a cop so idk) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaIsGod 128 Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 i remember one time a lawyer tried to get his cilent out of jail by saying the cop only went after his clinet because he was black and the judge literally rolled his eyes and owned the shit out of the lawywer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YNRA 1,082 Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 maybe it should just be a rule that you have to live in the community you patrol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♥SNS-Shinomiya♥ 420 Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 I get he sentiment and she is right. However, who the fuck wants to patrol places willingly where people will shoot you because you are a cop, where there is so much violence that even children in their beds are not safe. She is denying the fact that the people these cops have to deal with, don't comply leaving little choice in thier response. She knows how aggressive some people can be when she mentioned taking guns away from children, compare that to an adult who have lived life. I feel as though, cops should carry tasers and use that as the first option esp in recent events. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodsync 761 Posted July 7, 2016 Author Share Posted July 7, 2016 maybe it should just be a rule that you have to live in the community you patrol yes that is the best idea every Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricesongs 263 Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 maybe it should just be a rule that you have to live in the community you patrol that would be a really great way to work out all the issues we have with police brutality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♥SNS-Shinomiya♥ 420 Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 that would be a really great way to work out all the issues we have with police brutality first thing is to tell people that they have to comply with officers when they tell you to do something. After that is taken care off, the situation should be easier to fix and more people will be fired or trained better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCTfans 1,881 Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 Anyone got some evidence for any of these ideas? Studies? statistics? lol Do you all know what science is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YNRA 1,082 Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 first thing is to tell people that they have to comply with officers when they tell you to do something. After that is taken care off, the situation should be easier to fix and more people will be fired or trained better. most people already know that they have to comply to what officers tell them, but it isn't always that easy. there are a ton of cases where an officer has overstepped their boundaries and is abusing power but it's not as if low income people have the money or the knowledge to fight it easily in court so basically it would mean theyd just have to do literally anything the officer says without the officer having repressions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCTfans 1,881 Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 lemme do the hw for you all https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/storyline/wp/2014/08/22/do-diverse-police-forces-treat-their-communities-more-fairly-than-all-white-ones-like-fergusons/ From the studies that have been done, however, there’s no conclusive evidence to show that white and black police officers treat suspects differently — if anything, some of the studies show that black officers can be can be harder on black criminal suspects. A 2006 study of Cincinnati police records concluded that white officers were more likely to arrest suspects than black officers overall — but it also found that black officers were significantly more likely to make an arrest when the suspect was black. In Washington D.C., according to a 2011 Washington Post poll, the police department got a relatively low 60 percent rating from black residents, despite the fact that the force is highly integrated. The New York Police Department’s demographics are close to those of the rest of the city, but a Quinnipiac poll from 2014 found that only 54 percent of black residents approved of its performance. The Detroit police department is so dominated by African Americans that it’s been sued for discrimination against whites, and yet only 18 percent of black Wayne County residents approved of its work in 2009. “Not to minimize the importance of diversity,†said Nusrat Choudhury, a staff attorney in the ACLU’s racial justice program, “but it’s not a one-shot solution.†Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodsync 761 Posted July 7, 2016 Author Share Posted July 7, 2016 I get he sentiment and she is right. However, who the fuck wants to patrol places willingly where people will shoot you because you are a cop, where there is so much violence that even children in their beds are not safe. She is denying the fact that the people these cops have to deal with, don't comply leaving little choice in thier response. She knows how aggressive some people can be when she mentioned taking guns away from children, compare that to an adult who have lived life. I feel as though, cops should carry tasers and use that as the first option esp in recent events. cops can carry guns where i live but if a police shoots more than it was needed. they not only lose their job but they can also go to prison. my problem is police in america they use to much force like shooting a person more than 6 times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCTfans 1,881 Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 cops can carry guns where i live but if a police shoots more than it was needed. they not only lose their job but they can also go to prison. my problem is police in america they use to much force like shooting a person more than 6 times They are told to Not police fault, that is from higher ups. Police training is if you shoot your gun, shoot to kill which means center mass and multiple shots. They are trained not to shoot limbs and not to fire once. You should understand that it is the result of a lot of experience and for safety that it is done this way. Everyone blames individual cops when they are just pieces of the system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♥SNS-Shinomiya♥ 420 Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 most people already know that they have to comply to what officers tell them, but it isn't always that easy. there are a ton of cases where an officer has overstepped their boundaries and is abusing power but it's not as if low income people have the money or the knowledge to fight it easily in court so basically it would mean theyd just have to do literally anything the officer says without the officer having repressions. Most cases show non compliance, so I don't believe that statement. I do believe in crooked. cops, but police brutality at least the racial factor is very low. cops can carry guns where i live but if a police shoots more than it was needed. they not only lose their job but they can also go to prison. my problem is police in america they use to much force like shooting a person more than 6 times Okay first and foremost, the number of shots should be proportional to the person. Sometimes one shot will not bring a person down, sometimes it takes a few, 6 is a big much but again it sometimes takes a few. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodsync 761 Posted July 7, 2016 Author Share Posted July 7, 2016 They are told to Not police fault, that is from higher ups. Police training is if you shoot your gun, shoot to kill which means center mass and multiple shots. They are trained not to shoot limbs and not to fire once. You should understand that it is the result of a lot of experience and for safety that it is done this way. The whole rule: shoot to kill is just wrong, because there are and always will be cops who are scared of people of other race At first i thought the whole black lives matter was stupid because it was only for blacks. But now i thinks there should be a black lives matter movement because the police system is against them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♥SNS-Shinomiya♥ 420 Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 The whole rule: shoot to kill is just wrong, because there are and always will be cops who are scared of people of other race At first i thought the whole black lives matter was stupid because it was only for blacks. But now i thinks there should be a black lives matter movement because the police system is against them But we (black people) kill eachother more and in way higher number than anyone does to us. Blacks are killed more often than not by other blacks. There are more death from abortions than from crime or heath diseases, WE are killing eachother. But that never seems to be addressed in BLM speeches it always about what other do to us, never about how we are the ones causes the most mess to eachother, that is why people find the movement stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCTfans 1,881 Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 The whole rule: shoot to kill is just wrong, because there are and always will be cops who are scared of people of other race At first i thought the whole black lives matter was stupid because it was only for blacks. But now i thinks there should be a black lives matter movement because the police system is against them If you are looking at the most positive possible changes in governance that benefit black communities. I would have to say it is not police violence. Police violence does cause some innocent black people to die, but it is an insignificant number. Gang related violence due to illegal black market dealings like prostitution or drugs are the cause of most violent death among black communities. Personally I believe things like changing the drug war and legalization/treatment of addiction approaches would lead to more saved lives rather than BLM anti-police movements. Not to mention drug war causes a lot of the police / black community interaction along with drugs being a significant portion of gang revenue. Emotionally, it would feel better to rally against "racist cops" rather than for an end to the drug war, but logically fixing the drug war in America towards legalization and treatment is the most positive and realistic political goal that could happen. I don't believe there is an achievable political goal behind BLM that is possible. It is just emotional anger towards white people in all honesty which gives emotional relief but isn't going to fix anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodsync 761 Posted July 7, 2016 Author Share Posted July 7, 2016 But we (black people) kill eachother more and in way higher number than anyone does to us. Blacks are killed more often than not by other blacks. There are more death from abortions than from crime or heath diseases, WE are killing eachother. But that never seems to be addressed in BLM speeches it always about what other do to us, never about how we are the ones causes the most mess to eachother, that is why people find the movement stupid. that may be the truth but that killing are done by civilians that also needs to change like taking the guns from people and also that does not give the police a pass, the police should and always protect the people who they serve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♥SNS-Shinomiya♥ 420 Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 that may be the truth but that killing are done by civilians that also needs to change like taking the guns from people and also that does not give the police a pass, the police should and always protect the people who they serve. It is something to address but its not a real or the biggest issue we have as black people. Don't take guns because bad guys can still get them. But I agree with the bolded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodsync 761 Posted July 7, 2016 Author Share Posted July 7, 2016 If you are looking at the most positive possible changes in governance that benefit black communities. I would have to say it is not police violence. Police violence does cause some innocent black people to die, but it is an insignificant number. Gang related violence due to illegal black market dealings like prostitution or drugs are the cause of most violent death among black communities. Personally I believe things like changing the drug war and legalization/treatment of addiction approaches would lead to more saved lives rather than BLM anti-police movements. Not to mention drug war causes a lot of the police / black community interaction along with drugs being a significant portion of gang revenue. Emotionally, it would feel better to rally against "racist cops" rather than for an end to the drug war, but logically fixing the drug war in America towards legalization and treatment is the most positive and realistic political goal that could happen. I don't believe there is an achievable political goal behind BLM that is possible. It is just emotional anger towards white people in all honesty which gives emotional relief but isn't going to fix anything. that may be the truth but that killing are done by civilians that also needs to change like taking the guns from people and also that does not give the police a pass, the police should and always protect the people who they serve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abra 40,910 Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 maybe it should just be a rule that you have to live in the community you patrol Won't really work since it puts the cop in a difficult position. The cops might have to intervene against personal friends or relatives. And if they arrest someone, they will be very vulnerable as they live in the area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCTfans 1,881 Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 maybe it should just be a rule that you have to live in the community you patrol While that sounds nice, unfortunately statistical date and studies show it actually is a negative thing. It seems obvious that more black cops policing black neighborhoods is a good thing, but it doesn't seem to improve anything from any studies or statistics I've seen. Read these sources. There are cities that do have residency requirements. http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/reexamining-residency-requirements-for-police-officers/ http://www.emeraldinsight.com/doi/abs/10.1108/13639519910285080 Proponents of police officer residency requirements maintain that police officers who live in the area they serve contribute to the local tax base, provide better information dissemination, and represent community interests in their agencies. However, little research has been conducted to assess the extent to which residency requirements affect public perceptions of the police. This paper explores the relationship between police residency requirements at the municipal level and citizen satisfaction with law enforcement – specifically, the connection between residency requirements and reported confidence in the abilities of the police to prevent crime, solve crime, and protect citizens. Data derived from a national survey of citizen satisfaction with criminal justice institutions conducted during 1995 and from the 1993 Law Enforcement Management and Administrative Statistics survey of agencies with more than 100 sworn officers reveal, among other things, that residency requirements affect citizens’ perceptions of the police in a negative way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YNRA 1,082 Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 Won't really work since it puts the cop in a difficult position. The cops might have to intervene against personal friends or relatives. And if they arrest someone, they will be very vulnerable as they live in the area. that makes zero sense, your personal relationships arent supposed to interfere with your work as a cop anyways and a lot of cops DO already work in their own communities Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camelliabloom 4,557 Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 I've never understood why cops aim for the chest or stomach when they make the first shot... If you want to take someone down and cuff them, just shoot them in the leg and then seize the weapon and arrest them. My logic may be flawed though, I don't have a medical degree nor do I understand anything about guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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