satoori 45,814 Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 (Mot is a popular Indie Band in South Korea) (trans of Mot's tweet) Recently Namjoon asked me in serious tone about misogyny when we met privately so we talked about it for quite a long time. Namjoon confessed that he felt a sense of shame, sense of guilt for being caught up in this controversy and that it makes him painful and sleepless. So I said Misogyny is not an inerasable "branding" nor a "label" but it's rather the matter of degree and that it could exist in anyone but instead of feeling that it's unfair or feel distressed, it's a matter of finding this trait in oneself and whether you choose to correct yourself or not. And that I'm also in the progress of self-correction and I told him that although I'm still lacking, I was able to realize. I've talked such similar subject with people around me but Namjoon listened closely than anyone and understood my words better. Furthermore, I feel relieved after reading Bighit's statement in Donga Ilbo's article. It looks like the members and their company are moving towards the right direction.What's important is not where you used to be in the past or where you are right now but it's the direction you're heading towards. How much did you suffer Namjoon... 1. I'm really, very sorry for him and that's all I can say. He's got so many fans cheering and supporting him but my heartaches to see him feeling so distressed like that 2. I'm really angry because the people who are hellbent to put the misogyny label behind Namjoon and his members would have slept so well with their legs stretched out. I'm so mad that Namjoon wasn't even able to sleep well.. 3. I think their company released a feedback because he kept on consulting the staffs on this matter and the company could no longer watch him suffer like that.. That makes me more angry and annoyed. This is frustrating seriously the people who framed them... 4. Really... Namjoon... ã… ã… 5. Honestly people only listen and see things they want and that's really upsetting. Twenty three is still a young age and I think he's been through a lot of distress and it hurts me6. People can misunderstand and for creating such misunderstanding, in a way Namjoon could be blamed for this. However, if you really misunderstood someone you should listen to fans' clarification and those who close their ears and keep saying it's misogyny, clearly they're just people who dislike Namjoon and BTS from the start. We're not angry because of the people who misunderstood and said this is misogyny. We're just mad at those who refused to listen to the clarification and kept pushing the boys as if they are criminals. I can never forgive them. Original Link Translation by PEACHISODA Please take out with full credits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASS 7,209 Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 6. People can misunderstand and for creating such misunderstanding, in a way Namjoon could be blamed for this. However, if you really misunderstood someone you should listen to fans' clarification and those who close their ears and keep saying it's misogyny, clearly they're just people who dislike Namjoon and BTS from the start. We're not angry because of the people who misunderstood and said this is misogyny. We're just mad at those who refused to listen to the clarification and kept pushing the boys as if they are criminals. I can never forgive them. Same girl same. Bet this won't get 7 pages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suga's GF 3,185 Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 these people don't know what misogyny rly is tbh :\\ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekku 1,277 Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 Poor Rapmon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lugoose 11,398 Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 these people don't know what misogyny rly is tbh :\\ What do you mean by these people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hikaruaxi 1,243 Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 What happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tollie 429 Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 So much more respect for Namjoon, BigHit, and all of BTS. And good on Mot. Glad Namjoon has someone to talk to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wixtch 13 Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 5. Honestly people only listen and see things they want and that's really upsetting. Twenty three is still a young age and I think he's been through a lot of distress and it hurts me This tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss_Aeolus 381 Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 5. Honestly people only listen and see things they want and that's really upsetting. Twenty three is still a young age and I think he's been through a lot of distress and it hurts me 6. People can misunderstand and for creating such misunderstanding, in a way Namjoon could be blamed for this. However, if you really misunderstood someone you should listen to fans' clarification and those who close their ears and keep saying it's misogyny, clearly they're just people who dislike Namjoon and BTS from the start. We're not angry because of the people who misunderstood and said this is misogyny. We're just mad at those who refused to listen to the clarification and kept pushing the boys as if they are criminals. I can never forgive them. Totally agree ~ especially the bolded part. So much more respect for Namjoon, BigHit, and all of BTS. And good on Mot. Glad Namjoon has someone to talk to. I am really happy that Namjoon had someone to talk to about this and also kudos for BH for handling this well imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CALICO CAT 8,999 Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 im a bit confused, who's mot? i dont know them but i honestly slow clapped at his tweets. Im glad namjoon is reflecting on his own lyrics, that's always good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E U Ae Rin 3,784 Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 keep shitting on this boy keep making him feel bad about past mistakes he has learned and wants to learn from and i'll personally find ur ass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
satoori 45,814 Posted July 6, 2016 Author Share Posted July 6, 2016 im a bit confused, who's mot? i dont know them but i honestly slow clapped at his tweets. Im glad namjoon is reflecting on his own lyrics, that's always good Sorry I just now edit my post. Mot is a popular Indie Band in South Korea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hella 2,168 Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 Seriously, none of us are not problematic in some way. All we can do is learn and get better, and Rapmon has shown that he is willing and eager to do both those things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akpheart 14,900 Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 This Mot person is wrecking my bias list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vocalmonster 3,603 Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 Rapmonsters such a philosophical person. He probably takes a lot of criticism to heart. I hope he doesn't become too stressed out or disheartened over this :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinkbunnies 1,046 Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 They're learning from their mistakes but antis and non fans won't care at all. Its honestly sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hexenbiest 9,172 Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 Sorry I just now edit my post. Mot is a popular Indie Band in South Korea. Thanks for this Wow I feel guilty not checking them out before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glasses 3,143 Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 6. People can misunderstand and for creating such misunderstanding, in a way Namjoon could be blamed for this. However, if you really misunderstood someone you should listen to fans' clarification and those who close their ears and keep saying it's misogyny, clearly they're just people who dislike Namjoon and BTS from the start. We're not angry because of the people who misunderstood and said this is misogyny. We're just mad at those who refused to listen to the clarification and kept pushing the boys as if they are criminals. I can never forgive them. Watch this get 2 pages tops. Namjoon reflects and tries to improve himself all the time, and there's nothing that makes me more proud. When will your faves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irene Is Life 922 Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 Picture or it didn't happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOOLY 33,373 Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 I don't know Mot well but this guys seems like a really nice friend to have. I'm glad they discussed this and he was able to give him good advices. Namjoon is always willing to learn and to improve himself and i respect him so much for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUGAMAN 4,924 Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 Rapmonsters such a philosophical person. He probably takes a lot of criticism to heart. I hope he doesn't become too stressed out or disheartened over this :/ I agree. I hope for them to be able to discern between constructive criticism and anti's bullcrap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fqmpedcqefjdk 302 Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 Furthermore, I feel relieved after reading Bighit's statement in Donga Ilbo's article. It looks like the members and their company are moving towards the right direction.What's important is not where you used to be in the past or where you are right now but it's the direction you're heading towards. ^^This. So long as they work to change and truly understand the situation and work to avoid it in future lyrics, that's the important thing. Even if it was a bit late, kudos to them for addressing it at all. And yes, it's great that Namjoon finally has someone he can talk to about this. He's expressed so many times before that he feels lonely. Though the other members are there for him, I still don't think he's at the point where he can express his concerns to them freely, especially since he's the leader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile Hoya 5,780 Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 I especially appreciate MOT's tweets because it will strengthen/restore ARMY's faith in BTS and Big Hit. I don't really care if antis see this or not, but I want our fandom to know. ps.,shout out to peachisoda for translating. That was quick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delusion_Angel 3,014 Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 I'm very glad Namjoon has sensible people like Eaeon to talk to regarding issues like this. Tbh, among all the members, I tend to worry about him the most when it comes to situations like this, and this hurts my heart. I wish people gave him a chance to prove that he really has grown up and has learnt instead of stirring drama regarding lyrics from 1 and 2 years ago. "What's important is not where you used to be in the past or where you are right now but it's the direction you're heading towards." ^I hope Namjoon understands and realizes this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suga's GF 3,185 Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 What do you mean by these people? the people accusing bts of have misogynistic lyrics. i mean, it's so weird and it's just a blatant witch hunt. i feel like a lot of male idol groups have lyrics like this, but BTS got picked on for no reason? all these songs like "only look at me" take possession over women, and some songs even talk about taking such ownership of a woman that they want to hurt her. but this is what pisses them off? as if, they don't care about misogyny, they only care about ruining BTS' image. transparent and tragic tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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